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Foundational Rights
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(09-11-2018, 03:49 PM)Wallfire Wrote:
(09-11-2018, 01:41 PM)Amaterasu Solar Wrote:
(09-09-2018, 02:42 PM)Wallfire Wrote: AS wrote   What is "correctly...?"  It does not matter what THEIR system says, if You do not consent, Their "laws" are not applicable.  Yes, Many will struggle with this idea.

This sounds like the basic belief system of the Christian religion, " turn the other cheek"
So if I may ask, are you not just forming another religion ??

Sorry, but I am not grasping how You can relate taking One's sovereignty back, thereby gaining freedom from the unEthical systems in place now, with religion and turning cheeks.  Can You clarify?

What I propose is a foundation for Human society to emerge from that is truly free and Ethical.  Hardly a religion, as One may carry whatever religion One wants - full freedom to do so.  All that is expected of any One is that They choose Their behaviors Ethically (within the three Laws of Ethics).  Society could not function if the vast majority did not follow those three Laws - which We do already in high enough percentages.

One must remember that ethics as such are not natural, it have been formed over time by different religions, and at the moment based in the civilized world on the teachings of the Christian church. The church has 10 commandments, you make do with 3. Ethics will not work without some form of "turn the other cheek" and forgiveness. These are the two important factors( there are many more) that need to be integrated into any system if one does not wish to have war all the time.

I fully disagree.  In societies where abundance was available (scant number of them), these Laws were expected.  No One killed or robbed or defrauded - for if They did, the rest would solve for the problem(s) the unEthical behavior was creating.  And there was virtually no MOTIVE to break the Laws.  In societies who lived in scarcity (actual, or like ours, artificial) the motive was there to kill, rob, defraud.  Desperation alone motivates Many past the Ethical line.

I don't see why Ethics "will not work without some form of "turn the other cheek" and forgiveness."  Especially when Our planet's abundance is flowing freely.  Can You elaborate on this?
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Messages In This Thread
Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-07-2018, 02:45 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-07-2018, 03:13 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-07-2018, 03:14 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by BIAD - 09-07-2018, 03:47 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-08-2018, 07:18 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by guohua - 09-07-2018, 05:57 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-08-2018, 07:27 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by BIAD - 09-08-2018, 09:19 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-08-2018, 10:24 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by BIAD - 09-09-2018, 12:34 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-11-2018, 01:34 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-09-2018, 02:42 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-11-2018, 01:41 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-11-2018, 03:49 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-11-2018, 07:10 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Ninurta - 09-10-2018, 04:39 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-11-2018, 02:21 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Ninurta - 09-12-2018, 07:11 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-13-2018, 02:44 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-11-2018, 07:25 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-11-2018, 07:46 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-11-2018, 08:02 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-13-2018, 01:14 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by gordi - 09-12-2018, 09:21 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-13-2018, 03:20 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-12-2018, 11:52 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-13-2018, 05:31 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-13-2018, 05:59 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-17-2018, 07:37 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-17-2018, 08:15 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-17-2018, 10:05 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by guohua - 09-13-2018, 06:10 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-16-2018, 02:51 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Ninurta - 09-14-2018, 05:18 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-16-2018, 03:17 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Ninurta - 09-16-2018, 04:33 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-14-2018, 09:19 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-16-2018, 03:35 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by BIAD - 09-14-2018, 09:32 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-14-2018, 10:24 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by BIAD - 09-14-2018, 11:33 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-16-2018, 03:47 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by BIAD - 09-16-2018, 04:59 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-17-2018, 10:25 PM

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