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Active Shooter in Vegas!
Am I the only one still keeping up with this? 

Well, anyway, here's an interesting video with a good clear view of the concert grounds during the shooting.




https://youtu.be/IPUGvh9alLs



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Well, well... what have we here?!  Interesting little tid bit about Campos.


Quote:Until last month, Campos worked a second job at the Clinton Foundation’s Las Vegas office where he had been providing security services for more than five years.

He resigned suddenly just before the attacks.


Source


Strange how Clinton's name keeps popping up in murders, isn't it?!   smallnotamused



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Just to keep things in perspective...

Quote:Reports of second massacre at Hooters night of Las Vegas tragedy are false.

'Sunday afternoon social media was buzzing with reports of a second massacre that had occurred on
Oct. 1 in addition to the massacre at the Route 91 Music Festival in Las Vegas, claiming a second
attack had occurred at Hooters Hotel and Casino.

This is 100 percent fake news.

People died that night, others were shot. Using a tragedy like that for entertainment purposes to further
an outrageous agenda is a disgrace.
There was no other shooting or massacre at Hooters.

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department officers who were inside the concert venue when the shooting
was occurring, started to direct concert goers, some who were shot out of the venue eastbound to Hooters.

That’s what you do when you have an active shooter incident, you get everyone who can walk or crawl out
of the immediate area where the gunshots are being targeted.

Rescue units were on scene at Hooters placing the wounded inside the ambulances. That’s why there were
emergency medical personnel placing the wounded and injured inside the rescue units who were staging
at Hooters.

What made the situation worse was that those escaping the carnage at the concert venue stampeded into
the Hooters Hotel for cover.

You can clearly hear the LVMPD radio traffic from the night of the shooting when one officer tells the dispatcher,
“Control 3Mary9, I’m at the center with other officers here, we got a lot of wounded. We’re sending them towards
the Reno side towards Hooters [out of harm’s way].”

A dealer who was working inside Hooters on the night of the massacre told Nevada Public Radio on Oct. 2 that
you could hear the gunshots outside and people were coming into the casino who were shot and wounded.
The dealer stated that there were bodies in front of the casino that were just lying there, people who ran from
the venue, they just died right there.

The emergency medical personnel and the police did an outstanding job that night placing their own lives in
jeopardy to get people away from the gunfire. Las Vegas buried LVMPD officer Charleston Hartfield on Friday
who was off duty attending the concert that night with his wife.

After he made sure that his wife was safe, he started to help move concert goers out of the venue when he was
shot and killed....'
SOURCE:

Quote:Schanda Bennett was working her black jack table at the Hooters Casino Hotel during Sunday night's massacre.
She tells NPR's Kelly McEvers concert goers, some injured, rushed into the casino.

KELLY MCEVERS, HOST:

Schanda Bennett was working last night at the Hooters Casino Hotel in Las Vegas when the shooting started.
That casino's close to the concert venue where last night's attack happened. Schanda Bennett is a blackjack
dealer.
She had two players at her table when the shots started. She says she put the cover on her table and then hid
underneath.

And then people started running into her casino, people who were running away from the shooting.
She described it to me earlier today when I talked to her on the phone.

Transcript:

SCHANDA BENNETT: There was no plan of evacuation or action whatsoever. Like, we had no idea what the
hell we were supposed to do. Some of the girls ran out into the chaos. They ran out of the front door.

MCEVERS: Some of the people you work with.

BENNETT: Yeah. You could hear the gunshots outside. So when you're going through this thing and you're at work,
I mean, literally we're in Las Vegas. So it's like, do I lose my job? Like, what do you do? Like, how much do they carry?
Like, this is a 24-hour city. You know what I mean? There's no excuses for...

MCEVERS: Yeah.

BENNETT: ...Them to not open their doors. You get what I'm saying? So while all of this is going on, I'm like, do I leave?
Do I stay? But I'm seeing people coming in with bullet wounds in their bodies. There's people with busted knees, everything.
And like, it was just horrible. There's blood everywhere. You have people hiding under the tables of the casino, like, literally
in the pit. Normally, like, I don't know if you've ever gambled before, but you know nobody can come in the middle of the pit.

MCEVERS: Right.

BENNETT: We had people everywhere. They were back near the cage with us. So the door that we go in to, like, count our
money - we had them in there with us. They were back in the employee dining room. They were everywhere.
They were in the hallways. They were everywhere.

MCEVERS: How many people do you think - I mean, did you see?

BENNETT: How many people? I saw at least 400 people. How many wounded people? It was at least 70 wounded people.
I mean, we had Metro all out in the front. There were people - there were bodies in the front of the casino that was just laying
there. People that ran from the venue - they just died right there.

MCEVERS: So what else did you do? So you hid under a table for a while. Then you got up. Then you heard the gunshots,
and you got back down on the floor.

BENNETT: I got back down on the floor. And then this is when people are still running in. Like, this lasted for a good 20 to 25
minutes. It had to. It probably was longer than that. But the amount of people that was running in was all night that just kept
coming in from every single direction.

Eventually everybody was, like, shoveled from the back where the employee dining room and the locker rooms and the
bathrooms are. But that was, like, a hour and a half after everything happened.

So I was just, like, doing what I could do - passing out water. I was praying with a number of the concertgoers.
One lady - she lost her kid. So I mean, we're crying. We're praying. It's just crazy. It was something - like, it was a war zone.
Like, it's, like, crazy. Yeah, you don't want to see that.

MCEVERS: What time did you finally leave?

BENNETT: I finally left around 1 a.m. I finally left around - at 1 a.m. And I forgot, yeah, I actually did attempt to go leave,
and then I came - I just went back inside. I was like, I'm not going to go to my car. I'm just going to go back inside and stay
here. And I just stayed even though, like I said, a number of other people - they left.

MCEVERS: And so did you just go home? Or I mean, and...

BENNETT: Actually, I didn't just go home. I ended up, like, taking some kids home. It was, like, two girls and a guy.
One of the girls didn't have any shoes on. Like, one of them lost their cellphone. And I took them home.
So they live in Henderson, but I live, like, right off of Las Vegas Boulevard. So I took them home. I mean, that was
the least that I could do.

MCEVERS: What are you thinking today about all this?

BENNETT: I'm just emotional right now. I haven't been to sleep. I've only slept for, like, literally an hour and a half maybe.
And that wasn't even really sleep, you know what I mean? Like, I just closed my eyes. I've been - I've - I mean, I've been
crying. I've been all over the place. It's just - I'm still - it's still surreal. Like, it's just - it doesn't feel real, but you know it's
real from what you see. Like, this is, like - I can't believe it happened.

MCEVERS: Thanks a lot, Schanda Bennett. We appreciate it. And seriously, take care.

BENNETT: You, too. Thank you so much.
SOURCE:

One may notice that in the second interview, Ms. McEvers sets out the situation before speaking to the
Hooters croupier. In the actual interview, the host never asks where Ms. Bennett initially thought the shots
were coming from and any later comments are based on past-tense information, after the reports of the
concert-massacre.
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Here is the latest video from MFA. The person he's talking to confirms a second shooter from the Tropicana Hotel.


Quote:MFA CEO Investigative Journalist “Scott J. Binsack” receives exclusive video and live testimony from a key witness who was part of the Security Team within the Tropicana Hotel the night of the Las Vegas Shootings. He reveals to Scott exclusive information and video evidence of the madness inside and outside the Tropicana. Including serious information that he came face to face with a possible additional shooter from atop of the Club Tower of the Tropicana. Where many eye witness reports confirm sounds of gun fire coming from. A show you do not want to miss!! To join MFA Underground go to ShopMFA.Org

Watch the video from the website:  MFA



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(10-24-2017, 06:35 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: Here is the latest video from MFA. The person he's talking to confirms a second shooter from the Tropicana Hotel.


Quote:MFA CEO Investigative Journalist “Scott J. Binsack” receives exclusive video and live testimony from a key witness who was part of the Security Team within the Tropicana Hotel the night of the Las Vegas Shootings. He reveals to Scott exclusive information and video evidence of the madness inside and outside the Tropicana. Including serious information that he came face to face with a possible additional shooter from atop of the Club Tower of the Tropicana. Where many eye witness reports confirm sounds of gun fire coming from. A show you do not want to miss!! To join MFA Underground go to ShopMFA.Org

Watch the video from the website:  MFA

Here is the next video:  MFA Update



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More news on the Paddocks...

Quote:Las Vegas shooter's younger brother Bruce Paddock, 59, is arrested after police find more than
600 images of child pornography on his computer.

*Bruce Paddock, 59, was taken into custody at a North Hollywood, California assisted living home on Wednesday
*He is the brother of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock  
*Police had been investigating Bruce for child porn since before the shooting
*After the massacre, they received a tip about Bruce's whereabouts  

'A brother of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock has been arrested for child pornography. 
Bruce Paddock, 59, was arrested Wednesday morning at 8:40am at an assisted living home in North Hollywood,
California.

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Bruce Paddock.

Bruce had been under investigation for child porn since before the October 1 shooting, but officials didn't know
where he was living.  Police found more than 600 child pornography images on his computer, which was left behind
in a Sun Valley auto repair shop where he squatted in 2014. But after he was evicted he disappeared and police
had been searching for him ever since. 

After the shooting, they got a tip about Bruce's whereabouts and tracked him down to the assisted living center,
where he was awaiting surgery for spinal stenosis.  Aerial footage from the scene on Wednesday showed Bruce
in a wheelchair.  
A joint task force that included the FBI and LAPD made the arrest.

According to the 20-page criminal complaint, Bruce faces one count of possession of more than 600 images
of child pornography and 19 counts of sexual exploitation of a child. 
Police say the crimes happened between January 1, 2014 and August 30, 2014.
 
The LAPD released Bruce's mugshot 'in case there may be victims of unreported incidents'. 
They say his arrest has nothing to do with the Las Vegas shooting.  
Bruce is being held on $60,000 bail.

TMZ previously reported that Bruce lives a 'nomadic life' and has a long criminal history including convictions
for petty theft and vandalism.  Bruce also threatened to murder a property owner in 2014, while he was squatting
at a home in the San Fernando Valley.

The home owner, Hector Cruz, told KTLA that Bruce was a longtime friend and he was going through a hard time
that year when he asked to come over to his auto shop to fix his car.
Instead, he ended up squatting in the attic of the business and soon became a nuisance to workers. 
Cruz said that when he found out Bruce was tampering with machinery and equipmen, the man snapped.

He said Bruce got into a fighting stance with clenched fists and told him 'If you keep f****** with me I am going to
kill you and drop you in the desert.'
On another occasion, he brought a gas canister up into the attic and threatened to set the auto shop on fire.

'He told me he was going to kill me,' Cruz said. 
Cruz described Bruce as a drug user, who sold meth and weed.
Cruz was eventually able to get a retraining order and Bruce fled the shop, leaving his computer with the damning
images behind...'
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(10-26-2017, 01:13 PM)BIAD Wrote: More news on the Paddocks...

Quote:Las Vegas shooter's younger brother Bruce Paddock, 59, is arrested after police find more than
600 images of child pornography on his computer.

*Bruce Paddock, 59, was taken into custody at a North Hollywood, California assisted living home on Wednesday
*He is the brother of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock  
*Police had been investigating Bruce for child porn since before the shooting
*After the massacre, they received a tip about Bruce's whereabouts  

'A brother of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock has been arrested for child pornography. 
Bruce Paddock, 59, was arrested Wednesday morning at 8:40am at an assisted living home in North Hollywood,
California.

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Bruce Paddock.
SOURCE:

Is he a different brother than the one interviewed after the shooting?  That guy gave me the creeps too.

Such a lovely family, right?   tinysure



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(10-26-2017, 02:29 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: Is he a different brother than the one interviewed after the shooting?  That guy gave me the creeps too.

Such a lovely family, right?   tinysure

I believe Bruce Paddock is the person that the Police were looking for in regards of drug-selling and arson.
I agree, it seems the Paddock family may be the ancestors of the Angel Family of the Judge Dredd family.
tinysurprised

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Quote:Mysterious "Missing" Vegas Security Guard Left The Country Days After Vegas Massacre.

'The mystery surrounding Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos grows increasingly bizarre by the day. 
Following Stephen Paddock's October 1st massacre in Las Vegas, Campos, who may or may not have been
shot by Paddock, flaked on a press conference that he reportedly scheduled then went missing for days before
suddenly resurfacing on the 'Ellen' show.

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Now, Fox News has uncovered Customs and Border Patrol documents showing that Campos apparently
crossed the border into Mexico days after the Vegas massacre.  Campos reportedly crossed the border
at the same place in January but, for whatever reason, was driving a rental car this time around instead
of his own vehicle.  Per the New York Post:

Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos mysteriously left the country just days after the Las Vegas
massacre, a report says.
 
Customs and Border Patrol documents obtained by Fox News show that the 25-year-old entered the United 
States from Mexico at the San Ysidro border crossing in California — one week after the mass shooting.
 
It’s unclear how long Campos was out of the country. The documents only show that he entered back into the US.
 The young man reportedly crossed the border at the same location in January.
 
While Campos was driving his own vehicle with Nevada plates during that trip, sources told Fox that he took
a rental car this time around — which was registered in California.

Of course, this raises a number of new questions including, but certainly not limited to, the following:
(1) why would the FBI allow a material witness to flee the country during an ongoing investigation,
(2) if Campos was shot, why/how did he spend hours in a car on a road trip to Mexico rather recuperating
in a hospital bed and
(3) if this was a "pre-planned" visit, as his union suggests, then why did investigators seem so baffled by
his disappearance.

The new information raises even more questions about Stephen Paddock’s Oct. 1 massacre — such as why
authorities would allow Campos to leave the country in the middle of their investigation or how the security
guard managed to make it down to Mexico with a gunshot wound to his leg.
 
Campos reportedly took a bullet from gunman Stephen Paddock at the start of his killing spree.
 
The union that represents him told Fox that they were aware of his trip to Mexico and claimed it was pre-planned
visit. What’s unclear, though, why the group didn’t report his whereabouts in the days following the massacre...'
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Quote:Of course, this raises a number of new questions including, but certainly not limited to, the following:
(1) why would the FBI allow a material witness to flee the country during an ongoing investigation,
(2) if Campos was shot, why/how did he spend hours in a car on a road trip to Mexico rather recuperating
in a hospital bed and
(3) if this was a "pre-planned" visit, as his union suggests, then why did investigators seem so baffled by
his disappearance.

Hmmm... very interesting!  The rabbit hole gets deeper.   minusculethinking



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We had the young lady Kymberley Suchomel, who "they" speculated died from a seizure because of her medical history, but I have not seen any medical reports from the coroner to confirm this yet.
She wanted to put together a group of witnesses to get to the bottom of what really happened because she didn't think the MSM was reporting it correctly.
A few days later, she's found dead.

Now, we have this couple, Dennis and Lorraine Carver (who were at the concert) dying in a car accident TOGETHER just a block or so from their home two weeks after the shooting(s).
We've already established in other threads how "they" can take control of cars with technology that most people don't know exists.
Their deaths may have been a real accident, but it just doesn't smell right to me.


Quote:When Dennis Carver realized the loud cracks weren’t fireworks but instead rapid gunfire, he jumped on top of his wife, Lorraine Carver, to shield her from the bullets.

“That’s just the kind of love they had for each other,” Brooke Carver, the couple’s oldest daughter, told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. “Their love was selfless.”

Two days after the shooting attack, the couple, who lived in Henderson part time and owned a plumbing company, returned to their Riverside County home in California.
They would go on to spend the next two weeks more in love than ever with each other and with life.

“After the shooting, they heard from all of the people they cared about most. They were so happy,” said Brooke, 20. “The last two weeks of their lives were really just spent living in the moment.”

But on the night of Oct. 16, the couple’s younger daughter, 16-year-old Madison Carver, heard a loud bang outside her window. When she ran down the street and rounded the corner, a familiar vehicle engulfed in flames came into view. Dennis, 52, and Lorraine, 53, had died together less than half a mile from their home.

According to the Riverside County Fire Department, their vehicle crashed into a metal gate outside their community at 10:50 p.m. on the 20000 block of Avenida De Arboles. It took firefighters nearly an hour to completely put out the fire, the department said in a statement.

Source

Sad... just sad. tinycrying

Anyone else have any thoughts about these deaths of witnesses so soon after the LV event? 

Could it be they missed the time line of when they agreed to die in their life chart (at the concert), so another door was opened for them to leave this world later? 
Or... were they murdered because they saw too much?



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Here is the latest MFA video. 

Watch here:  https://vimeo.com/240347008



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When evil erupts, you can bet you'll find Soros at the bottom of the rabbit hole!   tinyok 




https://youtu.be/97V6BlGr0BA



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(10-16-2017, 08:00 PM)BIAD Wrote:
(10-16-2017, 07:46 PM)gordi Wrote: So, the question is.... could the shooter(s) have been drones?

tinyhuh

It's a good shout, Gordi. I mean the witnesses said there were multiple shooters, but I've yet to read
any account of a description. The bullets were flying and a few have stated there was no way the
projectiles could've come from the Mandalay and hit where they were hiding.

A drone or drones would be an ideal method and disconnected enough if anything went wrong.

Cloaking Device

Quote:Cloaking device

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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For cloaked devices as used in extended DOS device drivers, see Helix Cloaking.
[Image: 220px-Cloaking_device_simulation_%28inactive%29.jpg]


Simulation of how a cloaking device would work. Cloaking device deactivated: Light is reflected and absorbed by the object, causing it to be visible

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Simulation of how a cloaking device would work. Cloaking device active: Light is deflected around the object, causing it to be invisible

cloaking device is a theoretical or fictional stealth technology that can cause objects, such as spaceships or individuals, to be partially or wholly invisible to parts of the electromagnetic (EM) spectrum. However, over the entire spectrum, a cloaked object scatters more than an uncloaked object.[1]
Fictional cloaking devices have been used as plot devices in various media for many years.
Developments in scientific research show that real-world cloaking devices can obscure objects from at least one wavelength of EM emissions. Scientists already use artificial materials called metamaterials to bend light around an object.[2]

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Conceptual origins[edit]
Star Trek screenwriter Paul Schneider, inspired in part by the 1958 film Run Silent, Run Deep, imagined cloaking as a space-travel analog of a submarine submerging, and employed it in the 1966 Star Trek episode "Balance of Terror". Another Star Trek screenwriter, D.C. Fontana, coined the term cloaking device for the 1968 episode "The Enterprise Incident".

Writers and game designers have since incorporated cloaking devices into many other science-fiction narratives, including Doctor WhoStar Wars, and Stargate.

Scientific experimentation[edit]
An operational, non-fictional cloaking device might be an extension of the basic technologies used by stealth aircraft, such as radar-absorbing dark paint, optical camouflage, cooling the outer surface to minimize electromagnetic emissions (usually infrared), or other techniques to minimize other EM emissions, and to minimize particle emissions from the object. The use of certain devices to jam and confuse remote sensing devices would greatly aid in this process, but is more properly referred to as "active camouflage". Alternatively, metamaterials provide the theoretical possibility of making electromagnetic radiation pass freely around the 'cloaked' object.[3]

Metamaterial research[edit]

Main article: Metamaterial cloaking
Optical metamaterials have featured in several recent proposals for invisibility schemes. "Metamaterials" refers to materials that owe their refractive properties to the way they are structured, rather than the substances that compose them. Using transformation optics it is possible to design the optical parameters of a "cloak" so that it guides light around some region, rendering it invisible over a certain band of wavelengths.[4][5]

These spatially varying optical parameters do not correspond to any natural material, but may be implemented using metamaterials. There are several theories of cloaking, giving rise to different types of invisibility.[6][7][8] In 2014, scientists demonstrated good cloaking performance in murky water, demonstrating that an object shrouded in fog can disappear completely when appropriately coated with metamaterial. This is due to the random scattering of light, such as that which occurs in clouds, fog, milk, frosted glass, etc., combined with the properties of the metamaterial coating. When light is diffused, a thin coat of metamaterial around an object can make it essentially invisible under a range of lighting conditions.[9][10]

Active camouflage[edit]

Main article: Active camouflage
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A coat using optical camouflage by Susumu Tachi.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaking_device#cite_note-inami2003optical-6][6] Left: The coat seen without a special device. Right: The same coat seen though the half-mirror projector part of the Retro-Reflective Projection Technology.

Active camouflage (or adaptive camouflage) is a group of camouflage technologies which would allow an object (usually military in nature) to blend into its surroundings by use of panels or coatings capable of changing color or luminosity. Active camouflage can be seen as having the potential to become the perfection of the art of camouflaging things from visual detection.

Optical camouflage
 is a kind of active camouflage in which one wears a fabric which has an image of the scene directly behind the wearer projected onto it, so that the wearer appears invisible. The drawback to this system is that, when the cloaked wearer moves, a visible distortion is often generated as the 'fabric' catches up with the object's motion. The concept exists for now only in theory and in proof-of-concept prototypes, although many experts consider it technically feasible.

It has been reported that the British Army has tested an invisible tank.[11][12] Mercedes demonstrated an invisible car using LED and camera in 2012.[13]

Plasma stealth[edit]

Main article: Plasma stealth
Plasma at certain density ranges absorbs certain bandwidths of broadband waves, potentially rendering an object invisible. However, generating plasma in air is too expensive and a feasible alternative is generating plasma between thin membranes instead.[14] The Defense Technical Information Center is also following up research on plasma reducing RCStechnologies.[15] A plasma cloaking device was patented in 1991.[16]

Metascreen[edit]

A prototype Metascreen is a claimed cloaking device, which is just few micrometers thick and to a limited extent can hide 3D objects from microwaves in their natural environment, in their natural positions, in all directions, and from all of the observer's positions. It was prepared at the University of Texas, Austin by Professor Andrea Alù.[17][18]

The metascreen consisted of a 66 micrometre thick polycarbonate film supporting an arrangement of 20 micrometer thick copper strips that resembled a fishing net. In the experiment, when the metascreen was hit by 3.6 GHz microwaves, it re-radiated microwaves of the same frequency that were out of phase, thus cancelling out reflections from the object being hidden.[18] The device only cancelled out the scattering of microwaves in the first order.[18] The same researchers published a paper on "plasmonic cloaking" the previous year.[19]

Howell/Choi cloaking device[edit]

University of Rochester physics professor John Howell and graduate student Joseph Choi have announced a scalable cloaking device which uses common optical lenses to achieve visible light cloaking on the macroscopic scale, known as the "Rochester Cloak". The device consists of a series of four lenses which direct light rays around objects which would otherwise occlude the optical pathway.[20]

Cloaking in mechanics[edit]

The concepts of cloaking are not limited to optics but can also be transferred to other fields of physics. For example, it was possible to cloak acoustics for certain frequencies as well as touching in mechanics. This renders an object "invisible" to sound or even hides it from touching.[21]

See also[edit]

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Unmanned Combat Ariel Vehicle

Quote:An unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV), also known as a combat drone or simply a drone, is an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) that usually carries aircraft ordnance such as missiles and is used for drone strikes.[1] Aircraft of this type have no onboard human pilot.[2] These drones are usually under real-time human control, with varying levels of autonomy.[3] They are used in drone strikes.[4]

Equipment necessary for a human pilot (such as the cockpitarmorejection seatflight controls, and environmental controls for pressureand oxygen) are not needed, as the operator runs the vehicle from a remote terminal, resulting in a lower weight and a smaller size than a manned aircraft.

While several nations possess and manufacture unarmed UAV, only the United States, Israel, China, Iran, Italy, India, Pakistan, Russia and Turkey[5] are at present known to have manufactured operational UCAV as of December 2015.[6]


USAF Hunter Killers

Quote:Hunter-Killer is an unofficial project name based upon an Aviation Week & Space Technology article. The U.S. Air Force's Hunter-Killer program was a tactical unmanned combat air vehicles (UCAV) procurement program. The General Atomics MQ-9 Reaper, a variant of the MQ-1 Predator won the project and was deployed in Afghanistan.


History[edit]
This is the U.S. Air Force program for which several companies have developed vehicles.

Although the J-UCAS concept is a long way from the early idea of a "reusable cruise missile", that notion is apparently alive and well. In September 2003, an announcement was made that Lockheed Martin's "Skunk Works" was developing an air-launched UCAV named "the Minion". Details released describe it as having a launch weight of 3,400 kilograms (7,500 pounds) and able to carry a reconnaissance payload, a jammer system, a high-power microwave weapon, or four 100 kilogram (220 pound) GPS-guided small-diameter bombs. It could also be used as a decoy, though it would need to have radar-enhancement payload as it is described as extremely stealthy.


Range is given as up to 1,000 nautical miles (1,850 kilometers). Two would be carried into combat by a single strike fighter such as a Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, with one under each wing, and launched from standoff distances to attack heavily defended targets. In practice, two strike fighters are expected to be used, launching four Minions, with the pilot of one aircraft watching out for threats while the other directs the UCAVs over a line-of-sight communications link. After the mission, the Minions would return to base and land conventionally on retractable landing gear.


A vague picture released with the announcement showed the Minion to have a certain broad resemblance to various air-launched cruise missiles, such as the Anglo-French Matra-BAe Dynamics APACHE / Storm Shadow or the US AGM-158A Joint Air to Surface Standoff Missile (JASSM), which is also built by Lockheed Martin and may have some degree of commonality with the Minion. The picture showed the Minion to have a spikelike, square-sided fuselage, with pop-out wings and twin tailfins, with the engine inlet just forward of the tailfins and the exhaust just behind the tailfins. Both the intake and the exhaust are shielded by triangular covers.


Despite the stealthiness of the Minion, Lockheed Martin is designing it for low cost, to be substantially cheaper than the $400,000 JASSM. Rumors about a Skunk Works project involving a cruise-missile-like UCAV had been circulating for a year or two before the announcement. There were also very vague and unconfirmed rumors that the Minion was used in an operational evaluation during the invasion of Iraq in the spring of 2003.


Somewhat more visibly, in the summer of 2004, the Air Force, in need of a less expensive short-term UCAV solution with a focus on endurance, opened up a competition for a "Hunter-Killer" UCAV. Specifications include:
  • An operating altitude of 10.7 to 15.25 kilometers (35,000 to 50,000 ft).
  • Endurance from 16 to 30 hours or more carrying a warload of 1,360 kilograms (3,000 pounds), in specific six 225 kilogram (500 pound) guided bombs.
  • Fit of SAR/MTI or EO/IR sensors and laser target designator. Of course, the Hunter-Killer would be capable of performing surveillance or reconnaissance missions along with its active combat role.

Cost specifications were given as US$10 million per aircraft and $30 million per "system", with each system including two aircraft and the necessary support gear. The Hunter-Killer program has attracted considerable interest and a number of interesting proposals.


Northrop Grumman has come up with two concepts. The first is the "Model 395", a militarized version of the Scaled Composites Proteus modified to a pure UAV configuration, with a sensor turret under the nose and a SAR-MTI pod under the forward fuselage, and carrying munitions on the centerline, for example tandem triple racks to carry six 225 kilogram (500 pound) munitions. With reduced fuel, it could even carry a single 2,270 kilogram (5,000 pound) bunker buster. At maximum takeoff weight, it would have a ceiling of 15,000 meters (49,000 ft).


The other Northrop Grumman proposal is effectively a half-weight Global Hawk, the "Model 396", with a wingspan of 10.7 meters (35 ft), a length of 27 meters (88.6 ft), and a gross weight of 6,800 kilograms (15,000 pounds), half that of the Global Hawk. It would be powered by a single Pratt & Whitney 545 bizjet turbofan.


General Atomics offered the turboprop-powered Predator B for the role. Aurora Flight Sciences and Israel Aircraft Industries are offering an armed Heron 2. Lockheed Martin has responded to the Air Force request but has been keeping quiet about their proposals. Boeing did not submit a proposal, stating the company was busy with other UCAV work.


Raytheon
 proposed a sixth option, whereby they would offer a combination of sensors, communications systems, and other mission-related systems as a package, and then choose an airframe at a later date. Raytheon's perspective was that, as long as it performs to a minimum set of specifications, the individual airframe is less important than the systems it will carry.


The Air Force wanted to field the Hunter-Killer by 2007 and may order up to 60 machines. The program seems focused to avoid "gold plate", and most of the avionics will likely be off-the-shelf.
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Engineering wise their is only a small set of problems

Stablization

For necessary sniper shooting

Solved with helicopter design likeness
(COTS Drones literally)
(Commercial off the shelf)


Power supply

Easily done
Again solution from the world of COTS


Weight
Not so easily done

but if they worked in pairs with a supply drones that carries only ammo
done



Tech used
drone
Cloaking system
stealth hard systems (like paint and body material)

Now technically other tactics could be used
Drone deployed mounted system for sniping
It is feasible to cloak (with modern technology) the fire flash from visability- problem already solved in WW2

If patsy is deployed
then no need to worry over sound



Note: evidence to back theory
erasure of all video evidence cops siezed from people

I am not going to explain why but such systems as I have described would have left certain signs
It would require FBI level forensics to prove but it is why they would erase it
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Scott Binsack goes over previous coverage of footage taken by a witness named Kevin inside the Tropicana hotel showing what happened. He breaks down the timing of events, and he says he thinks he has proof that gunfire was coming from the helicopter, but he is waiting on confirmation before he puts his name on it.

Watch the video:  Video Link


In this report by Shepard Ambellas a breakdown of the helicopter flight path is given with timestamps and pictures of where the helicopter was.
It appears he thinks shots may have been fired from the helicopter, same as Scott Binsack. 

Hang on folks!  The truth is coming out! 


FAA logs and aircraft transponder data show that an LVMPD helicopter may have gone rogue on the night of the massacre

Flight records obtained by Intellihub founder and editor-in-chief Shepard Ambellas indicate that the transponder on an LVMPD aircraft went dark after several heavily armed men boarded the chopper.

The following timeline details the whereabouts of LVMPD helicopter “N911WY” between the hours of 10:25 p.m. and 11:35 p.m., Oct. 1, 2017.
*The data was captured in UTC time (i.e. 10 p.m. local time is 05:00 UTC on Oct. 2, 11 p.m. is 06:00 UTC on Oct. 2)
10:05 p.m. – Stephen Paddock’s first volley of fully-automatic gunfire, reportedly starts (see the unofficial timeline for more details.)
10:25 p.m. – An LVMPD MD 530F helicopter (#N911WY) arrives in the vicinity of the Luxor from North Las Vegas.


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10:34 – 10:36 p.m.  LVMPD aircraft N911WY arrives at Mandalay Bay’s north side (near Paddock’s room) for the first time where it slowly makes its way south toward the Four Seasons rooftop.

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Screenshot via FlightRadar24.com


10:37 p.m. – The aircraft hovers above the rooftop of the Mandalay Bay Convention Center (possibly scouting for a sniper or shooters nest.)

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Screenshot via FlightRadar24.com

10:38 – 10:42 p.m. – The aircraft appears to be searching the area and hovering just south of the building toward the Las Vegas Blvd side.
10:42 – 10:44 p.m. – N911WY overflies and hovers above the Route 91 Music Festival venue, searching the area.
10:45 – 10:49 p.m. – The aircraft flies back over to the Mandalay Bay Four Seasons/Convention Center area for one last look before heading east toward the airport.

10:50 p.m.  N911WY overflies the airport then abruptly and oddly double-backs to the west/SW.

10:51 p.m. – N911WY lands in the parking lot of the Harley dealer located at 5191 S Las Vegas Blvd, Las Vegas, NV 89119 where it waits on the hard for the next 8 minutes (rotors spinning) while several mercenaries gear up for what appears to be either a combined aerial/ground assault on the city or some type of aerial counter-sniper defense. One of the men is masked.

Take notice of the M-239 SAW style light machine guns the men are carrying in the following video as N911WY waits in the backdrop.






10:59 p.m.
 – N911WY’s transponder goes dark and is not accounted for during the next 5 minutes.


11:04 p.m. – N911WY reemerges above the rooftop of the Mandalay Bay Four Seasons/Convention Center area. For the next six minutes, the helicopter stays just to the south and west of Mandalay Bay where it alternates its location emerging from each end of the building as if the pilot is looking for a suspect on the south and/or west face of the building.

For the most part, over the next few minutes, the helicopter remains lower than the roofline of both the Delano and Mandalay Bay. At one point the aircraft appears to hover exactly over the same location where a taxi cab driver captured the sound of loud fully-automatic gunfire and what appears to be the reflection of a muzzle flash in her rearview mirror on video.

There is much more of the timeline in the report, but due to copyrights I can't post the entire article. Go see the rest here:


http://www.dcclothesline.com/2017/10/28/...-massacre/



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This is getting ridiculous! 
If ever there were clear signs that the Deep State was behind this shooting, this is it!   SILENCE, OR DIE!! 


Quote:Orville Almon, the lawyer representing the Route 91 music festival and Jason Aldean, the singer onstage when the Las Vegas shooting began, has been found dead. He was 66.

Almon, a prominent Nashville attorney, opened his private practice Almon Law in 2010 where he represented musicians and entertainment industry organizations during battles with the law.

While his practice included re-negotiating existing agreements and new technology issues, and was renowned for negotiating with law enforcement, recent social media posts suggested the experienced attorney was feeling the strain of his latest high-profile case.

Describing meetings with MGM, Las Vegas police, and the FBI as “incredibly strange and complex” to one of his friends on recently made private Facebook threads, the attorney was privy to inside information that the FBI, by announcing they are no longer holding press conferences and the investigation is closed, have chosen to withhold from the public.

Orville Almon, known as a straight shooting attorney to the many Nashville musicians he represented, has become the latest in a very long line of suspicious deaths and disappearances surrounding the Las Vegas shooting.

Almon’s death, described by local Nashville media as “seizure during sleep”, mirrors that of Kymberley Suchomel of Apple Valley, California, a shooting survivor who was found dead in her home, hours after her husband left for work.

Ms. Suchomel gave a very detailed account of what happened in Las Vegas, insisting there were multiple gunmen involved in the shooting. Claiming that mainstream media was not telling the truth, Kymberley was planning on creating a survivor’s group to continue the quest for truth and justice.

Last week we reported the death of Danny Contreras, another Las Vegas local who had been contradicting the official narrative that only one shooter fired on the Route 91 Harvest festival crowd. Mr. Contreras tweeted the day after the attacks saying he was “lucky to be alive” after he was “chased by two gunmen”.

His tweet was retweeted hundreds of times.
“Feeling lcky to be alive. cant beleive i got out of concert alive! 2 men chasing me with guns. not evry 1 so lcky.”

Dennis and Lorraine Carver, a Las Vegas couple who survived the Las Vegas shooting and were speaking out about the lies being pushed in the official narrative, were engulfed by flames in their car just meters from their home in Las Vegas.

According to the Riverside County Fire Department, the vehicle crashed into a metal gate outside their community at 10:50 p.m. on the 20000 block of Avenida De Arboles. It took firefighters nearly an hour to put out the fire, the Riverside County Fire Department said in an official statement.

In the face of all evidence, and countless survivor testimonies, mainstream media is perpetuating a major cover up by claiming there was only one shooter.


Another “seizure during sleep” death.  Yeah, right!  Go back and read my post about the technology they have to induce seizures in people to kill them and make it look "natural".  A MAJOR coverup is in the works!

There's more to this article Here.[url=Lawyer For Las Vegas Music Festival And Jason Aldean, Found Dead][/url]



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@Mystic Wanderer 
Your link doesn't work.
I did find an article though: Link
Once A Rogue, Always A Rogue!
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(11-03-2017, 12:50 AM)guohua Wrote: @Mystic Wanderer 
Your link doesn't work.
I did find an article though: Link

Thanks. Yes, that's the same article.  I fixed it on mine.  minusculethumbsup2



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