Latest S2 Update on Ukraine

[Ninurta]

Considering all the rhetoric from the past around the famous might and power of Russia, I'd have thought
taking the Ukraine would be a walk-over. But maybe they're just taking their time! Let's hope this drawn-out
war campaign isn't distracting the public from other issues closer to home!

(Didn't we used to hide under our school desks from this country?)

Yeah, it seems to not be going just the way Putin had hoped. I've heard he's rather put out by the lack of progress, but there is so much BS and propaganda flying about that it's difficult to tell which reports are factual and which are being woven in real time from whole cloth.

I've also heard reports of Ukrainians handing Spetnaz units their own asses, and I find that difficult to believe. if it's true, then Ukraine doesn't need any more help. They've got this.

It would tickle my funny bone if the Ukraine not only ran Russia back out of their recent acquisitions, but also retook Crimea. That would just be too funny.

 Another thing I heard was that two Chechen Hit squads were decimated in Kiev while they were hunting to execute a contract on the Ukrainian president. I have serious doubts about that. It really depends on what Putin's real objective is. Western talking heads are claiming he is trying to "resurrect the Russian Empire" or "resurrect the Soviet Union" depending on which one is talking and who they are trying to scare. Putin himself says that his goals are more modest, that he just doesn't want NATO to directly abut Russian borders, and that he'll pull back once that buffer is established. If Putin is right and the Talking Heads are wrong, then killing Mr. Z would be counterproductive. All Z has to do is agree to not join NATO or allow NATO operations on Ukrainian soil. It'd be hard to do that if he were dead and all corpsified.

Another layer of the onion concerns just who Ukraine will be a puppet for, or whether it will be it's own nation. For example, "the west" and Russia have been trading punches and removing governments installed by the other and installing their own. That doesn't bode well for Ukraine to be it's own nation. The current government was installed after overthrowing the previously democratically elected government by the Obama regime. It's not a "democratic" government by any stretch of the imagination. Democratic governments are elected by the people of a nation, not installed by foreigners. This seems to me to be the most recent attempt at regime change, with Putin unistalling the Obama installed government and aiming to install his own puppet regime.

I dunno. maybe all the players need to step back and let Ukrainians decide who will lead them. That seems to me to be more equitable than this tit for tat back and forth of installing and unistalling governments by foreigners just to jocky for position and guarantee a "friendly" government in Ukraine for their own ulterior motives.

And if Ukraine is successful in eliminating the Russian threat, you just KNOW that the debt collectors will soon be there from the west, collecting on the debt from giving Ukraine the weapons to whoop Russia with...

"Nice country you got here. Be a shame if anything was to happen to it..."

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