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California is just Fucked-Up
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@"Freija" 

Quote:Citations requested.

The irony here is that you are probably a lot closer to good sources in a university library than I am.  Sorry, but the wonder that is the internet doesn't have much on minor aspects of history that occurred prior to the emergence of the internet itself.  That said, this is the best I could find quickly, from Wikipedia.

Quote:After the October Revolution in Russia, Alexandra Kollontai became the most prominent woman in the Soviet administration. Kollontai was also a champion of free love. However, Clara Zetkin recorded that Lenin opposed free love as "completely un-Marxist, and moreover, anti-social".[39] Zetkin also recounted Lenin's denunciation of plans to organise Hamburg's women prostitutes into a "special revolutionary militant section": he saw this as "corrupt and degenerate."

Despite the traditional marital lives of Lenin and most Bolsheviks, they believed that sexual relations were outside the jurisdiction of the state. The Soviet government abolished centuries-old Czarist regulations on personal life, which had prohibited homosexuality and made it difficult for women to obtain divorce permits or to live singly. However, by the end of the 1920s, Stalin had taken over the Communist Party and begun to implement socially conservative policies. Homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder, and free love was further demonized.

From their article on "Free love".  But I didn't learn about that from Wikipedia, my own education is a lot more ancient in origin than the internet.

I expect Russian sources would have much more on this, but that would require translation I am not up to.

FWIW, Freija, I don't toss statements out to make ideological points, unless I am providing an opinion, in which case it will be clear that my statement is such.  I am not into the modern practice of everyone trying to be a clever debater.  When I state something I believe to be fact, it can be taken or left as one wishes.

Cheers

ETA: If you can find this work in a library, it should address the topic. As I am not in the USA, accessing this work would be difficult for me:

The Family in Soviet Russia, Harvard University Press, Cambridge, 1968. Author is H. Kent Geiger.
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California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 03-06-2021, 04:40 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by drussell41 - 03-06-2021, 04:58 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by drussell41 - 03-06-2021, 05:01 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by F2d5thCav - 03-06-2021, 07:12 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by yuppa - 03-23-2022, 06:53 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-06-2021, 05:26 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Wallfire - 03-06-2021, 05:40 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-07-2021, 03:51 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by PLOTUS - 03-06-2021, 06:50 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by xuenchen - 03-06-2021, 07:25 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Freija - 03-07-2021, 03:53 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-07-2021, 10:15 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Freija - 03-07-2021, 09:12 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Freija - 03-07-2021, 08:19 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by F2d5thCav - 03-07-2021, 10:07 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Wallfire - 03-07-2021, 10:24 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 03-07-2021, 03:45 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Freija - 03-08-2021, 05:09 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Wallfire - 03-08-2021, 08:43 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Freija - 03-08-2021, 10:57 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Wallfire - 03-08-2021, 11:00 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-08-2021, 11:19 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by MisterSpock - 03-08-2021, 08:50 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Wallfire - 03-08-2021, 09:01 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by MisterSpock - 03-08-2021, 09:05 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by MisterSpock - 03-08-2021, 09:07 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by F2d5thCav - 03-08-2021, 09:22 AM
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RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Bally002 - 03-08-2021, 09:49 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-08-2021, 11:30 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Freija - 03-09-2021, 08:50 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by PLOTUS - 03-11-2021, 07:36 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Grace - 03-18-2021, 11:55 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by PLOTUS - 03-11-2021, 08:01 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by PLOTUS - 03-12-2021, 12:34 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Wallfire - 03-12-2021, 02:57 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Freija - 03-12-2021, 09:50 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Wallfire - 03-13-2021, 10:52 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-13-2021, 03:42 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Freija - 03-15-2021, 06:21 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Wallfire - 03-15-2021, 09:40 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 03-13-2021, 04:30 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by xuenchen - 03-13-2021, 04:40 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-13-2021, 03:40 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-15-2021, 02:58 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Freija - 03-15-2021, 11:28 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by OmegaLogos - 03-16-2021, 12:38 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Wallfire - 03-16-2021, 05:59 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Finspiracy - 03-17-2021, 04:48 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-17-2021, 09:24 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by PLOTUS - 03-16-2021, 12:50 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Freija - 03-18-2021, 03:06 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-19-2021, 01:24 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Wallfire - 03-18-2021, 04:01 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by PLOTUS - 03-18-2021, 07:22 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Grace - 03-19-2021, 12:09 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-19-2021, 01:31 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Finspiracy - 03-19-2021, 11:06 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Wallfire - 03-19-2021, 11:45 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Grace - 03-19-2021, 01:15 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Wallfire - 03-19-2021, 07:20 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Grace - 03-19-2021, 07:37 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 03-19-2021, 08:26 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Grace - 03-20-2021, 01:03 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Freija - 03-19-2021, 09:07 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Grace - 03-20-2021, 01:01 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-20-2021, 01:26 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Grace - 03-20-2021, 01:35 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-20-2021, 01:40 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 03-20-2021, 01:25 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 06-19-2021, 07:56 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 06-22-2021, 07:59 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 07-01-2021, 06:39 PM
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RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 07-08-2021, 03:52 AM
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RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 07-23-2021, 07:33 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 07-23-2021, 09:35 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Kenzo - 07-24-2021, 04:18 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 07-25-2021, 05:03 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 07-27-2021, 01:27 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Kenzo - 07-27-2021, 06:59 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 07-27-2021, 03:59 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 07-31-2021, 04:50 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Kenzo - 07-31-2021, 07:13 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 08-02-2021, 08:51 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Kenzo - 08-02-2021, 06:22 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 08-02-2021, 08:39 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Kenzo - 08-02-2021, 06:34 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 08-02-2021, 06:42 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Kenzo - 08-02-2021, 07:22 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 08-02-2021, 08:13 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 08-02-2021, 10:52 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 08-12-2021, 06:42 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 08-12-2021, 08:13 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 08-26-2021, 05:46 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 08-28-2021, 08:55 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Kenzo - 09-02-2021, 05:50 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 09-02-2021, 06:36 AM
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RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 09-06-2021, 05:07 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 09-15-2021, 07:31 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 09-16-2021, 02:51 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Kenzo - 09-30-2021, 01:12 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 09-30-2021, 09:46 PM
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RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 11-09-2021, 06:09 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 02-20-2022, 07:06 PM
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RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by PLOTUS - 02-21-2022, 06:46 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Freija - 02-22-2022, 04:07 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Ninurta - 02-22-2022, 10:31 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Freija - 02-23-2022, 02:06 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 02-23-2022, 02:37 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 02-22-2022, 04:46 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 03-18-2022, 07:03 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Grace - 03-24-2022, 11:12 AM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by PLOTUS - 03-18-2022, 07:22 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Chiefsmom - 03-18-2022, 09:03 PM
RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 03-18-2022, 09:09 PM
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RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by guohua - 03-18-2022, 09:44 PM
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RE: California is just Fucked-Up - by Brotherman - 03-23-2022, 08:04 AM
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