[Germany] The Covoid Camps.

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@"Wallfire" 

The situations really get ugly where non-Germans are involved.  Children ripped away from their families, and if the family is allowed to visit, it is demanded that conversations be in German whether the people are fluent or not.

I think German society is only a couple of steps away from being what it was in the 1940s.  There may be more dissenters these days, but the German state still has a firm and authoritative grasp on the people ... and what is considered "proper thinking and behavior" (Ordnung muss sein).

The German take on the Nazis is not deep at all.  It is a simple "people were murdered and that was wrong" viewpoint.  Yes, that is true ... but it completely overlooks why German society was so susceptible to being coached by Hitler and his gang -- that is, the group psychology aspects of German society that allowed the Nazi regime to be as bad as it was.  No one in Germany wants to dig into that ... besides being a depressing activity, it also invites shunning and condemnation by others they live and work with.  The story of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Rosmus is instructive in understanding the social dynamics that take place.

What is a sad conundrum is that as individuals, once one gets past the German social training, Germans can be very decent people.  But part of their social training, as you discerned, is a condescending attitude to others, especially those who are not Germans.

Cheers

I noticed that too when there. Not a sociologist or psychologist so I cannot be specific but it feels like all the elements are right there as you elude to. It benefits them when it comes to education and technology. Very disciplined. Very clean and orderly place. But the arrogance element is a sign of deeper issues. Again, I am not an expert but it is obvious to someone even like me. 

Disclaimer: I never had a problem with a German. Good people. Even the old WWII Luftwaffe vet, missing a leg, who told me how many Americans he shot down. I wanted to tell him my Grandfather was a German who flew for the Americans during WWII but it seemed awkward. Skipped it.