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RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - Ninurta - 12-22-2017 (12-22-2017, 12:28 AM)Grace Wrote: Dont think such a lame excuse will get you one of them cases full of cigars.. Well, I can play the spoons instead then. I already know where to find them. have you counted your spoons lately? . RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - Ninurta - 12-22-2017 @"dadmansabode" Quote:MOD NOTE FROM NINURTA: RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - Ninurta - 12-22-2017 Double post. Don't know how. First time it's ever happened to me here. I think. RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - guohua - 12-22-2017 @"Ninurta" You're Good Man Gunga Din. I Think dadmansabode understands. By the way,,,, you can play the Spoons, that's fine, but Grace said you'd be singing also,,, is that with gordi? RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - Ninurta - 12-22-2017 (12-22-2017, 06:34 AM)guohua Wrote: @"Ninurta" I dunno about that - I've heard Gordi sing. He would show me up, make me sound like a croaking frog in comparison. I'm not sure that would be good for my image... and I have real doubts that Gordi would appreciate the accompaniment! . RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - BIAD - 12-22-2017 I was reluctant to mention this, but Boy In A Dress has a pair of small cymbals that attach to the inside of one's knees. He's quite good with them, but he is still struggling with 'Stairway To Heaven" It might help. RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - guohua - 12-22-2017 (12-22-2017, 07:03 PM)BIAD Wrote: I was reluctant to mention this, but Boy In A Dress has a pair of small cymbals that attach toGREAT!!!!!! He's In! RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - dadmansabode - 12-23-2017 Is the United Nations Fulfilling Ancient Biblical Prophecy? well, let's consider this On Dec. 21, 2017, the U.N. united as one to stand against one city on the planet: Jerusalem. Twenty-five centuries earlier, the prophet Zechariah wrote these words from the Lord, “I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle” (Zech. 14:2a) Did the U.N. just move us one step closer to fulfilling this ancient prophecy? Before answering this question, let’s look at the events on the ground ........ source 12-22-2017 .. How each country voted at the UN on Jerusalem status resolution 12-21-2017 .. Trump Threatens to Cut Financial Aid to UN Members Backing Anti-Israel Jerusalem Resolution 12-21-2017 .. Following the UN's decision to condemn the U.S., Nikki Haley rightfully pointed out . . . . 35:35 12-18-2017 .. Anti-semitism in New York. This is what incitement looks like 12-18-2017 .. U.S. vetoes UN call for withdrawal of Trump Jerusalem decision 12-18-2017 .. UN Security Council to vote on outlawing Trump’s Jerusalem decision 12-11-2017 .. Trump's Jerusalem Declaration Sparks Talk Of 3rd Temple 12-09-2017 .. Jerusalem celebrations for recognition as capital of Israel from USA 12-08-2017 .. UNRAVELING: Jerusalem riots spread to Indonesia and Malaysia 12-06-2017 .. Pastor Charles Lawson 12-06-2017 .. Trump officially recognises Jerusalem as the capital of Israel / even Obama says so Prophecy concerning the Arab Nations The angel of the Lord also said to her: (Hagar) “You are now pregnant and you will give birth to a son .. You shall name him Ishmael (Father of the Arab Nations), for the Lord has heard of your misery. He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.” ...... Genesis 16:11-12 RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - Wallfire - 12-23-2017 (12-22-2017, 07:03 PM)BIAD Wrote: I was reluctant to mention this, but Boy In A Dress has a pair of small cymbals that attach to Well if you think about Gordi running around in the freezing weather in his Kilt, there should be lots of clinking and clanging coming from under the Kilt, so does that count ? Will our Gordi make it ???? RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - Grace - 12-23-2017 @'dadmansabode' Quote:Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. The son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of promise. Galatians 4:21-31 (two comments in parentheses are my own) http://biblehub.com/galatians/4-21.htm Two covenants, two Jerusalems, one slave, one free. One is not God's - God abandoned one. That's from the new testament, showing the new covenant and the new Jerusalem as compared to the old, taught by the Messiah - himself a Jew - and by remnant Israel. But let's just pretend that Zechariah hasn't been fulfilled - since you insist. 14:16) Question - Will the modern Jewish peoples, under Messiah, be keeping all of the Old Covenant “feasts” when the N.T. writers (under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit) clearly state that such things were merely TEMPORARY TYPOLOGICAL TUTORS intended to lead Israel to Christ?? Will Christ then, in the future, lead the “modern Jewish Christians” and ALL THE NATIONS OF THE MODERN WORLD backwards – to those ancient and “rudimentary things” ( Gk: “stoicheion” – Col 2:8, 20; 2 Pet 3:10) that only served to point to Messiah, the cross, the resurrection, etc.??? The New testament writers tell us that a return to the Mosaic Economy (the OLD covenant system) would be to apostatize from Christ and to invalidate the cross of Christ!! (14:16) – Will “all the nations” [of the entire modern world] soon be “going up” to the modern city of Jerusalem each year to celebrate the Jewish feasts?? How will we all fit?? Will all the nations of the world soon suddenly keep the feast of booths (tabernacles) yearly? Because, if we do not, God is going to bring plagues upon all those wicked nations and destroy their crops by withholding rain. (14:17-20) Is modern Israel under Messiah going to return to the animal sacrifices that the new testament says would be nothing short of “blasphemous” (study the Book of Hebrews)? For Zechariah to be speaking of a yet future date in a very literal and earthly sense, your saying that God will demand we become apostate and punish us all if we dont... which decidedly doesn't sound like something my God would demand. ... Herein lies my problem with interpreting Zechariah your way where as with my interpretation there are no contradictions, no God punishing me if I refuse to sin, no twisting our heads a million directions all at once to make it all fit... just a clear explanation that makes sense. RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - guohua - 12-23-2017 (12-23-2017, 11:21 AM)Grace Wrote: @'dadmansabode'My husband just Nods his head and says,,,"Grace is Absolutely Correct, Very Well Said." RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - Grace - 12-23-2017 @'guohua' Tell Mr. G thank you for the compliment... RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - dadmansabode - 12-23-2017 Herein lies my problem with interpreting Zechariah your way .... I did not ' interpret' Zechariah, I just displayed it tell me when in the past did 'all nations gather to battle against Jerusalem' ?? all your questions, well, you can take whatever positions you like ... not really my concern "I (God) am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling". and "I (God) will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle" ?? << indeed (for me) a scenario to watch on a daily basis Hebrews 10:19 .. therefore .. brethren .. since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus 10:20 .. by a new and living way which he inaugurated for us through the veil .. that is .. his flesh 10:21 .. and since we have a great priest over the house of God 10:22 .. let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith .. having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil .......... conscience and our bodies washed with pure water 10:23 .. let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering .. for he who promised is faithful 10:24 .. and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds 10:25 .. not forsaking our own assembling together .. as is the habit of some .. but encouraging one another .. .......... and all the more as you see the day drawing near RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - Grace - 12-23-2017 (12-23-2017, 06:05 PM)dadmansabode Wrote: I did not ' interpret' Zechariah, I just displayed it You say you did not "interpret" Zechariah you simply "displayed" the verses. Which is fine but you are dealing with the category of scripture that is prophecy, therefore it demands an interpretation - an understanding of what those prophecies actually mean. Recall If you will, the Pharaohs dream of the 7 cows in Genesis: (The account begins in Genesis 41:15) Quote:"When out of the river there came up seven cows, fat and sleek, and they grazed among the reeds. After them, 7 other cows came up - scrawny and very ugly and lean." This prophetic dream was representative of something else, it was predicting 7 years of Feast and 7 years of famine in Egypt - yet, without God's explanation not even Joseph knew what that dream meant. If you just took it at face value then it's just the Pharaoh dreaming of cows - no big deal, and you would be wrong. All prophecy is like that. Taking the Messianic prophecies at face value you would miss the Messiah altogether - all prophecies have an interpretation... You, are basing all your beliefs on prophecy without an interpretation for them - and in this way, misleading yourself and attempting to mislead others, because your not taking understanding of prophecy from God. That is a sad thing, as these things affect all your decisions and thought processes now. Instead of heralding the things that areTRULY important for the salvation of men, your supporting things that have no biblical basis and missing the point of salvation altogether. I need to get on the computer (as I am right now on my phone) to make typing and answering your other question easier for me. Give me some time and I will address your question of when the nation's were against Jerusalem. RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - guohua - 12-23-2017 Mr.G. Here. I'll say I'm Sorry in advance. But, what is really being talked about is the last days. The Messiah Returning to Earth. (So where has he /she been this whole time?) The Messiah, (Jesus Christ), will return at the very end of the coming ‘Apocalypse’ to save the remnant of Israel from the armies of the world which will one day gather against the Nation of Israel. He will then rule and reign over Israel and over ALL The Nations of the World. (Really) Jesus says when He returns to rule there will be no question it is Him. When He again steps forth from Eternity every eye will see Him Coming In The clouds, with Millions from Heaven, in Power and Great Glory. (REALLY?) Here are just some verses I remember. "Behold, He is coming with Clouds, and EVERY eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the Earth will mourn because of Him " (Revelation 1:7) OK,,, Ask yourself, What is the reference to Clouds? "For behold, The LORD will come with Fire and with His Chariots, like a Whirlwind, to render His anger with fury, and His rebuke with Flames of Fire. For by Fire and by His Sword, the LORD will judge all flesh and the slain of the LORD shall be many." (Isaiah 66:15-16) Ok,,,, what are his actual Chariots? I'm Sorry, but first. Neither, God or Jesus has been seen or heard from in How Many Years? Did the All Knowing God or the Loving Jesus Stop Hitler, Stalin, Mao or some many others. Sounds a lot like to me, we're waiting for the arrival of our Alien creators. RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - dadmansabode - 12-23-2017 I'm Sorry, but first. Neither, God or Jesus has been seen or heard from in How Many Years? Did the All Knowing God or the Loving Jesus Stop Hitler, Stalin, Mao or some many other (atheistic-based dictators) Sounds a lot like to me, we're waiting for the arrival of our Alien creators. indeed, prophecies being fulfilled .... the coming day of the Lord II Peter 03:03 .. know this first of all .. that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking .. following after their own lusts 03:04 .. and saying . . . where is the promise of his coming .. for ever since the fathers fell asleep .. .......... all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation 03:05 .. for when they maintain this .. it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and .......... the earth was formed out of water and by water 03:06 .. through which the world at that time was destroyed .. being flooded with water 03:07 .. but by his word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire .. kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men 03:08 .. but do not let this one fact escape your notice .. beloved .. that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years .. .......... and a thousand years like one day 03:09 .. the Lord is not slow about his promise .. as some count slowness .. but is patient toward you .. .......... not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - Ninurta - 12-23-2017 (12-23-2017, 06:05 PM)dadmansabode Wrote: tell me when in the past did 'all nations gather to battle against Jerusalem' ?? My. This certainly escalated quickly! I'll try to be a little more forthcoming when I get home from work this evening, but for now I'll Give my thoughts on the above quoted section. My answer to that would be "never", and it's not happening now, either. In days of yore it was the Philistines, Assyrians, and Babylonians, but not all at once, as far as I can recall. More recently, in 1948, 1967, and 1973 all of the Arab nations arrayed against Israel (and got their asses handed to them each time), but never ALL nations... And not now, either. A simple vote from the UN talking heads at that toothless paper tiger is not anything at all like "gathering to battle". Not even close. The UN couldn't battle it's way out of a ball of twine... and remember, the US provides the lion's share of the UN "peacekeeping" forces, so no worries there, either. This is not the fulfillment of any prophecy. It's just politics as usual. . RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - Grace - 12-24-2017 (12-23-2017, 08:31 PM)guohua Wrote: Mr.G. Here. I have tried several times to post in response... but when I hit the backspace button instead of undoing some typing such as a misspelled word, its backing me out of this whole page and I then lose every word I type.. lol. I am frustrated, but I would like to respond to you.. perhaps however, it is best I wait to do so, as at this point I have no earthly idea why this is happening, or how to fix it. lol RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - guohua - 12-24-2017 (12-23-2017, 10:04 PM)dadmansabode Wrote: I'm Sorry, but first. Your link to Atheist Dictators, just shows me and others that you know nothing of being born and raised a Socialist/Communist. I was. I also worked for an Agency that was under direct control of the Central Committee for the People Republic of China. The Ministry of State Security (MSS). I nor any of my Comrade that I knew had ever been ordered to Investigate, Infiltrate or Arrest and Imprison any Christians. Religions were not Sanctioned or Recognized by the Government, but as long as they kept to Religion and Not Politics or protesting, they were left alone, the rule of Thumb was this, The Central Committee Makes The Rules YOU Live By and The Central Committee also see that You give them Respect and Acknowledgement. Unless of-course you were to the use or threatened use of violence to affect political or ideological change in the People's Republic of China. Like the Uyghur Muslims of Xinjiang, China. I spoke with my husband about how Christians were treated in the Soviet Union in the late 70's and early 80's when he was there working for The U.S. Government. He says from what he remembers, they were not Harassed or Prosecuted as long as they keep quiet and didn't make trouble. You need to remember the Russian Roman Catholic Church has been a part of everyday Russians lives for a Very Long Time. So, @"dadmansabode" Your Religious Propaganda Link is just that Propaganda. RE: yesterdays prophecies / todays headlines - guohua - 12-24-2017 (12-24-2017, 12:57 AM)Grace Wrote:I don't know what to say about your keyboard problems,,,,, sorry.(12-23-2017, 08:31 PM)guohua Wrote: Mr.G. Here. But my Husband said that He Did Apologize in Advance for his post :smallgreenangel: |