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Did we help blow up Russia's pipe line ?
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Did the States have a hand in sitting charges and blowing up Russia's gas pipe line to Germany ?
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(09-28-2022, 01:44 PM)727Sky Wrote: Did the States have a hand in sitting charges and blowing up Russia's gas pipe line to Germany ?

I fear we may have.

We are in for it with that babbling idiot at the helm and 0bozo's lackeys pulling the strings.

Lots of blame on Biden in the news yesterday evening.
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Now for a different take on who did what and why ?
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(09-28-2022, 01:44 PM)727Sky Wrote: Did the States have a hand in sitting charges and blowing up Russia's gas pipe line to Germany ?

If media is saying we did it.........   We didn't.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

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(09-28-2022, 03:07 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(09-28-2022, 01:44 PM)727Sky Wrote: Did the States have a hand in sitting charges and blowing up Russia's gas pipe line to Germany ?

If media is saying we did it.........   We didn't.

Something's been amiss with the NS2 pipeline from the get-go.

Remember when Germany was shuttering its coal plants and turning off nuclear power plants?

I suspect their shitty little Green Ploy to freeze a bunch of people this Winter was being thwarted by the increased gas capacities provided by NS2.

You can scratch all that now.  They prodded Putin into invading The Ukraine ... and we're already on down another twist in the rabbit hole.
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It could have been a telepathically sent, matter fracturing matrix bomb from another dimension. That blew up the pipeline.

Look at the state of affairs on this planet. The state of humankind. Can we really rule out anything, anymore?
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US may have shared intel with Ukraine on how to sabotage OR from the time Biden said he would stop Nord Stream & war breaking out...7 months elapse and we have a pipeline rupture due to neglect? I have no idea what preventative maintenance is required on any pipeline.

Since these BALTOPS exercises in June, near the Danish island of Bornholm the British Royal Navy along with the US Navy’s 6th Fleet has been training the Ukrainian military to use these same drones.

Added fuel for possible sabotage, in 2015, the annual routine underwater survey of the Nord Stream 1 pipelines came across a remote operated vehicle rigged with explosives right next to one of the lines in Swedish waters. The umbilical cable had been cut. The drone’s national origin was never disclosed.

Explosive-Laden Drone Found Near Nord Stream Pipeline (Nov 2015) Not much to the article and the oil companies use seismic blasting to map the sea bed and geology.

A follow-up report (translated from Swedish):

Quote:The analysis shows that it is a Swedish remote-controlled craft (Seafox) that the Armed Forces use to clear mines, for example.

The craft, which is guided by a cable, was lost when the cable broke during an exercise. The loss occurred in the spring of 2014 far from the place where it was found.

It really posed no danger either to the gas line or to shipping because it has a built-in function that makes it neutralize itself. The craft was moved and destroyed by the Swedish Armed Forces last week.

The analysis of objects at the gas line complete

In this French interview (starting at 3:50) with Jacques Baud, he said based on documents that has been declassified, Ronald Reagan ordered the sabotage of the gas pipeline from Russia to Europe to prevent too much rapprochement ("reconciliation") between Russia & EU, especially Germany.
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There is another possibility for sabotage. In the 1980's, the US led the world in microchip design and manufacture. The Soviet Union had a severe deficit in such areas, so they were trying to steal US chips. We rigged a bunch of microchips with a software sleeper bot that would just sit quietly undetected until activated, and allowed the Soviets to "steal" them. This could be a similar situation to that - bots or hacks that allowed Cyber Command to take control of the pipeline and over-pressure it to the point of failure.

I have to ask myself who would have the most to gain from this sabotage. Russia is way down towards the bottom of that list. The Ukraine is at the top, with the US running a close second. Germany doesn't even make the list.

If this was US sabotage, and there are several good reasons to think it may have been, then it is most definitely an act of war, an invitation for Putin to nuke someone, maybe DC. That would be an overt act of US aggression, BidenHarris picking a war. Chancellor BidenHarris has been steadily weakening the US since day one in the Oval Office, and it is a sure bet that none of our enemies has failed to notice that. The next BidenHarris move could well be to start a war so they could stand back and let our asses be handed to us in our weakened state - weakened economically, energy-wise, and militarily, just for starters.

Enemies would need to attack while they still have a fellow-traveler in office weakening the nation, and this could provide them just the right excuse to spark off WWIII.

The US and NATO have given the Ukraine so many weapons that yesterday it was reported that "we have no more weapons left to give". In other words, Chancellor BidenHarris has given so many weapons to the Ukraine that the Us is now on short supply. Let that sink in for a minute. The Ukraine is using more 155mm howitzer shells in a single month than the US produces in an entire year.

China and Russia have been conducting joint warfare exercises in international waters off the coast of Alaska, and still have several warships there... hmmm...

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We, or I should say "they", most likely did.

Now it seems like there is a real possibility they will escalate further by doing something even larger and trying to blame russia.

We are being dragged into hell by lunatics with god complexes.
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The only thing Russian we're helping to blow up is their pussy military.
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I find this guy's take very interesting.
Quote:HOW TO STAGE A SABOTAGE: L'Affair Farewell, Fake History, Fake Science By Deep State Design.

Everyone is talking about the sabotage of Nord Stream 2 and floating their pet conspiracies. I like to look to the geopolitical facts and to history.

If you read Nicole Perlroth’s masterly This Is How They Tell Me the World Ends: The Cyberweapons Arms Race (2021), you know—just as I do—that the culprit of cyber attacks are often done with a degree of plausible deniability.

I’ve enjoyed the fantasy that France was capable of pulling off such an operation. They aren’t. Right? Right?

But gee, who would really benefit from the destruction of Nord Stream 2? Could it be another consumer of Russian gas? Like, I don’t know, China?

So qui bono from the pipeline attack? Xi bono. He’s now the only customer for Russian gas. From February 4, 2022, “Russia, China agree 30-year gas deal via new pipeline, to settle in euros,” Reuters:

Gazprom, which has a monopoly on Russian gas exports by pipeline, agreed to supply Chinese state energy major CNPC with 10 billion cubic metres of gas a year, the Russian firm and a Beijing-based industry official said.

Just this past month China renegotiated the deal and this time agreed to pay for the Russian gas in roubles and yuan. Did you catch that? The currency moved from euros to roubles and yuan. The dream of the Duginist Eurasian sphere is at hand. The world’s largest energy supplier and the world’s largest energy consumer linking arm and arm.

Recall there was pipeline attack in this country that was apparently due to a "computer glitch" and nobody knew how to correct via analog methods.

Second possibility:

Quote:Or perhaps it’s the U.S. and NATO, who long to put Europe under America’s energy security shield.

Indeed the recent [strike]problems[/strike] sabotage of Nord Stream 2 and their forecasted problems recall a similar effort roughly 40 years ago which allegedly paralyzed the Siberian Pipeline and caused havoc.

The rest of the article is spent on the "Farewell" case, codename for a mole inside the technical branch of the KGB that was being run by French intelligence. The mole was supplying the French intel a shopping list (technology theft list) that the KGB was interested in stealing from the West. Pres Francois Mitterrand shared this intel directly with Pres Reagan and Reagan assigned his NSC Gus W. Weiss to deal with the Russians by fulfilling one of the shopping list items (software) and allowing the KGB to steal it, not knowing it had been tainted with a Trojan horse, which ended up causing a mini-nuke explosion (visible from space) on the Trans-Siberian pipeline. BooM!

Note this was during the same time frame as the PROMIS/INSLAW software suit going on and one of the main characters was swamp creature Bill Barr, among others.

So, the Nord Stream incident may have been a cyber attack. Would China be capable? Yes. USA? Yes. Poland? Yes, but not likely. Davos/WEF Bloschwab club? Yes, but for entirely different motivations.


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Food plant fires, refineries up in smoke and other suspicious large scale incidents may be the action of covert warfare by Russian sleeper agents. Given the fact that the Russian leadership views itself as involved in an undeclared war with US/Nato makes almost anything possible.

These parasites have declared war on just about everything from climate to cancer, fossil fuels, err "Abiotic oil" to meat & everything in between.

A lot of...

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...going on.

Next, they'll have us believe they've resurrected Woolly Mammoths.

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"The New World fell not to a sword but to a meme." – Daniel Quinn

"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that." ― John Lennon

Rogue News says that the US is a reality show posing as an Empire.


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(09-30-2022, 07:47 PM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: "The New World fell not to a sword but to a meme." – Daniel Quinn 

This quote I had not heard before. So I looked up this Daniel Quinn. I found "Ishmael ". 

Definitely something to think about.

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Apparently the perpetrator of the bombing is such a deep dark secret that it must be hidden, no matter the cost to the public interest for the public interest. ?‍

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A military strike to disable Iranian industries and logistics is a prescription with side effects. It would probably end negotiations on Iran’s nuclear program and lead to increased Iranian troublemaking in the Middle East. But the nuclear talks seem to be failing in any case. The opportunity exists to strike a meaningful blow against the Russian arsenal, and targeted strikes on Iran would signal real Western support for the democracy protesters facing thuggish oppression from the IRGC, police, and basiji militias all alone.

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"The New World fell not to a sword but to a meme." – Daniel Quinn

"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that." ― John Lennon

Rogue News says that the US is a reality show posing as an Empire.


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Look, gotta level with ya all.

The pipe line did not blow up.

I had a massive case of flatulence and somehow it made global news and Rogue Nation :(
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