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Anyone that knows anything about me, knows I have a congenital vision problem that makes my brain have to work at processing what I see.
I don't have a problem, most of the time, with things that I have seen before, and my brain has had the ability to process and categorize. It usually is a fairly fast process, sometimes it is not.
Just for the fun of it, and in hopes of making someone else laugh, instead of me just laughing at myself, look at the video and tell me what you see.
It took me the longest time to process what I was seeing. When my brain could not make sense of it, it went from a still image to a moving one. I will tell you what my brain came up with, after a few guesses. Maybe tomorrow.
Every time I think about it, I have to laugh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oQ3Qx45sfo
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I saw water sloshing back and forth in what appeared to be either an underground river or a river flowing through a canyon.
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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
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(09-26-2022, 09:04 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I saw water sloshing back and forth in what appeared to be either an underground river or a river flowing through a canyon.
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Was there anything in the river?
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(09-26-2022, 09:05 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: (09-26-2022, 09:04 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I saw water sloshing back and forth in what appeared to be either an underground river or a river flowing through a canyon.
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Was there anything in the river?
Just foam from whitecaps, and an exposed river bed when the water was elsewhere.
Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
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(09-26-2022, 09:08 PM)Ninurta Wrote: (09-26-2022, 09:05 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: (09-26-2022, 09:04 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I saw water sloshing back and forth in what appeared to be either an underground river or a river flowing through a canyon.
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Was there anything in the river?
Just foam from whitecaps, and an exposed river bed when the water was elsewhere.
I see those things that you report, but that was not the first thing my brain honed in on.
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(09-26-2022, 09:04 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I saw water sloshing back and forth in what appeared to be either an underground river or a river flowing through a canyon.
Looked like a pretty small area to me. Just the downward perspective of the camera skews things. Look at the 'dirt' when the water's sloshing. To me it doesn't seem like there's much more than a 10 or 20 gallons of water sloshing around in there.
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(09-26-2022, 09:32 PM)Snarl Wrote: (09-26-2022, 09:04 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I saw water sloshing back and forth in what appeared to be either an underground river or a river flowing through a canyon.
Looked like a pretty small area to me. Just the downward perspective of the camera skews things. Look at the 'dirt' when the water's sloshing. To me it doesn't seem like there's much more than a 10 or 20 gallons of water sloshing around in there.
I see everything you posted. But that was after the several minutes.
I see initially with negative space being prominent. That distorts what is in the foreground.
I am used to that, but I couldn't stop laughing when my brain actually started moving stuff.
I know why it happened. If I cover my left eye, my right eye sees objects up close and big.
If I cover my right eye, my left eye sees the same object as if it was further away, and much smaller.
It took so much longer for my brain to make sense out of it using stereo vision, it tried to process it using mono vision alternating between my left and right eye, giving the illusion that something was moving that wasn't.
Our bodies are are truly amazing.
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(09-26-2022, 09:47 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: (09-26-2022, 09:32 PM)Snarl Wrote: (09-26-2022, 09:04 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I saw water sloshing back and forth in what appeared to be either an underground river or a river flowing through a canyon.
Looked like a pretty small area to me. Just the downward perspective of the camera skews things. Look at the 'dirt' when the water's sloshing. To me it doesn't seem like there's much more than a 10 or 20 gallons of water sloshing around in there.
I see everything you posted. But that was after the several minutes.
I see initially with negative space being prominent. That distorts what is in the foreground.
I am used to that, but I couldn't stop laughing when my brain actually started moving stuff.
I know why it happened. If I cover my left eye, my right eye sees objects up close and big.
If I cover my right eye, my left eye sees the same object as if it was further away, and much smaller.
It took so much longer for my brain to make sense out of it using stereo vision, it tried to process it using mono vision alternating between my left and right eye, giving the illusion that something was moving that wasn't.
Our bodies are are truly amazing.
Question from me is: What do you pick up visually faster than others will?
I had a corrective procedure done on my eyes called LASEK. They peel back the epithelial layer of the eye (much like PRK less removal of the tissue) and reshape what's distorted. That procedure was 100% successful. One of the most amazing elements of it was the enhancement ... beyond the correction. Like ... I never knew there were so many shades of green in the leaves of a single tree. Then I come to find out women see this way in far greater abundance than men do. If memory serves, women see about 6 million more shades of color than most men.
We take for granted what we're able to perceive. We become accustomed to our own personal limitations. Sometimes we don't know what we're better at ... or, that someone may naturally be more 'gifted' than ourselves.
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(09-26-2022, 10:30 PM)Snarl Wrote: (09-26-2022, 09:47 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: (09-26-2022, 09:32 PM)Snarl Wrote: (09-26-2022, 09:04 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I saw water sloshing back and forth in what appeared to be either an underground river or a river flowing through a canyon.
Looked like a pretty small area to me. Just the downward perspective of the camera skews things. Look at the 'dirt' when the water's sloshing. To me it doesn't seem like there's much more than a 10 or 20 gallons of water sloshing around in there.
I see everything you posted. But that was after the several minutes.
I see initially with negative space being prominent. That distorts what is in the foreground.
I am used to that, but I couldn't stop laughing when my brain actually started moving stuff.
I know why it happened. If I cover my left eye, my right eye sees objects up close and big.
If I cover my right eye, my left eye sees the same object as if it was further away, and much smaller.
It took so much longer for my brain to make sense out of it using stereo vision, it tried to process it using mono vision alternating between my left and right eye, giving the illusion that something was moving that wasn't.
Our bodies are are truly amazing.
Question from me is: What do you pick up visually faster than others will?
I had a corrective procedure done on my eyes called LASEK. They peel back the epithelial layer of the eye (much like PRK less removal of the tissue) and reshape what's distorted. That procedure was 100% successful. One of the most amazing elements of it was the enhancement ... beyond the correction. Like ... I never knew there were so many shades of green in the leaves of a single tree. Then I come to find out women see this way in far greater abundance than men do. If memory serves, women see about 6 million more shades of color than most men.
We take for granted what we're able to perceive. We become accustomed to our own personal limitations. Sometimes we don't know what we're better at ... or, that someone may naturally be more 'gifted' than ourselves.
Test, test. Test to see if posts can be made in already open pages, and if they show up on the home page when i do. This is only a test. We will get back to the regular programming as soon as possible.
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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
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(09-27-2022, 06:42 PM)Ninurta Wrote: (09-26-2022, 10:30 PM)Snarl Wrote: (09-26-2022, 09:47 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: (09-26-2022, 09:32 PM)Snarl Wrote: (09-26-2022, 09:04 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I saw water sloshing back and forth in what appeared to be either an underground river or a river flowing through a canyon.
Looked like a pretty small area to me. Just the downward perspective of the camera skews things. Look at the 'dirt' when the water's sloshing. To me it doesn't seem like there's much more than a 10 or 20 gallons of water sloshing around in there.
I see everything you posted. But that was after the several minutes.
I see initially with negative space being prominent. That distorts what is in the foreground.
I am used to that, but I couldn't stop laughing when my brain actually started moving stuff.
I know why it happened. If I cover my left eye, my right eye sees objects up close and big.
If I cover my right eye, my left eye sees the same object as if it was further away, and much smaller.
It took so much longer for my brain to make sense out of it using stereo vision, it tried to process it using mono vision alternating between my left and right eye, giving the illusion that something was moving that wasn't.
Our bodies are are truly amazing.
Question from me is: What do you pick up visually faster than others will?
I had a corrective procedure done on my eyes called LASEK. They peel back the epithelial layer of the eye (much like PRK less removal of the tissue) and reshape what's distorted. That procedure was 100% successful. One of the most amazing elements of it was the enhancement ... beyond the correction. Like ... I never knew there were so many shades of green in the leaves of a single tree. Then I come to find out women see this way in far greater abundance than men do. If memory serves, women see about 6 million more shades of color than most men.
We take for granted what we're able to perceive. We become accustomed to our own personal limitations. Sometimes we don't know what we're better at ... or, that someone may naturally be more 'gifted' than ourselves.
Test, test. Test to see if posts can be made in already open pages, and if they show up on the home page when i do. This is only a test. We will get back to the regular programming as soon as possible.
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Am able to add a Rating (just now ... earlier I couldn't). The format is still off a smidgen. I think I actually prefer it this way.
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Okay, let me try to fill in the blanks I deliberately left open.
When the video first started playing, I saw a suitcase in the lower right corner. Now my brain said, "Wait a minute eyes!" "What in the hell is a suitcase doing in that crevice?"
Eyes took another look, images flashing a mile a minute through the old brain. This time it decided, it was a metal frame with an umbrella hanging off it. Well, that made even less sense. Flashing through a million other possibilities, the blue umbrella became a scuba diver pulling himself to the top of the metal frame.
Just when the brain was going to accept this as what we were seeing, it seemed odd that the scuba diver would be so small since the opening did not seems that far away. So back to the drawing board.
After several minutes of putting it all together, I am going with some kind of man made frame, or pipes, with a small wooden block on top of one of the pipes. I have no idea what it is, or was for. No idea what that blue things is swinging there, and I refuse to even attempt to figure out what those rectangular things are along the rocks on the other side.
That simple video gave me a headache.
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(09-26-2022, 10:30 PM)Snarl Wrote: Question from me is: What do you pick up visually faster than others will?
I had a corrective procedure done on my eyes called LASEK. They peel back the epithelial layer of the eye (much like PRK less removal of the tissue) and reshape what's distorted. That procedure was 100% successful. One of the most amazing elements of it was the enhancement ... beyond the correction. Like ... I never knew there were so many shades of green in the leaves of a single tree. Then I come to find out women see this way in far greater abundance than men do. If memory serves, women see about 6 million more shades of color than most men.
We take for granted what we're able to perceive. We become accustomed to our own personal limitations. Sometimes we don't know what we're better at ... or, that someone may naturally be more 'gifted' than ourselves.
My friends say I have eagle eyes, because I always see things long before they see them, I just can't always make out what it is, right away.
It is like my brain picks up on the slightest abnormality and draws my attention to it. So the average person will see the tree in all its beauty, but I will see the bird hidden behind the leaves.
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(09-28-2022, 01:52 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: the blue umbrella became a scuba diver pulling himself to the top of the metal frame.
I refuse to even attempt to figure out what those rectangular things are along the rocks on the other side.
I saw a SCUBA diver there too. LOL
The rectangular things look like footholds. If you look closely at the bottom left one, you can see the little grip thingies like you see on tailgates and running boards.
WRT your other post: Before I settled in behind the scope, I was a much sought after 'spotter'. It's a gift to be able to pick objects out of the cluster of information your optic nerves are sending into the gray matter. When the ROE changed, and people who were obviously hiding were accepted as legits, my role changed ... because an instant can make a difference.
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Interesting video to be sure. Very unusual.
What I saw as I watched the video was what appeared to be a spring fed body of water down below the camera, in between two rock walls. Kind of like a mini-canyon with water in the bottom of it. Down the left side of the video were a series of metal steps anchored into the wall (presumably to permit someone to get down to the water level which, judging by the water marks on the wall, clearly varies quite a bit on a regular basis. On the right side, it appeared there was some kind of a platform, with some sort of (I assumed) measuring system with a float system as its measuring instrument, attached to some kind of a rope/cable. The camera appeared to be 12-15 feet above the water.
I will say this; it was not an easy visual to figure out at first glance (because there is no real context, or scale). I'm still not sure I have it 100% figured out accurately. I am especially puzzled by the way the water moved. The title says "earthquake" but, even having been through an earthquake myself, that is not how I would have expected the water to behave...and certainly not for that long a period of time. Earthquakes do not behave in ways most people expect (and this was certainly true for my first one (I've experienced three of them)). I always expected an earthquake to "shake", and the three I've been in weren't like that at all! The best description I can think of is like standing on top of a pool cover, where the surface you're standing on can support you, but the surface underneath is fluid/liquid-like and moving. In retrospect, thinking about it now, the water motion does kind of make sense because the other thing I always thought very unexpected was the side <--> side motion of an earthquake, like a swaying motion. I know this much...if there would have been an earthquake going on, I certainly wouldn't have been standing anywhere near a fracture in the ground taking a video! That's for damn sure!! I'd have been headed as far away, and as fast as my feets could take me, AWAY from any terrain features like that!!!
FWIW...of the three earthquakes I've experienced, the 1st one was on Oahu in Hawaii, the 2nd one was in Michigan (of all places!), and the most recent one was in Lima, Peru. I pretty much slept through the one in Hawaii, only waking up because stuff was banging around. The Michigan one was just bizarre, and very brief, during the middle of the day. The one in Peru though, well, that one scared the living 'sheet' right outta' me!! The sudden realization that there is 'nowhere to run to' is an eye-opening experience to say the least!!
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(09-28-2022, 05:37 PM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: I will say this; it was not an easy visual to figure out at first glance (because there is no real context, or scale). I'm still not sure I have it 100% figured out accurately.
Funny how good it feels when you are not standing alone in your confusion.
Thank you FCD.
I agree that the video is lacking content, and even though my brain has made a decision about what is shown in the video, I still have a few milliseconds of uncertainty when I re-watch it.
This sort of explains my condition. The biggest difference is that I did not teach myself to do it, and I am still battling how to undo it.
Mastering Seeing Negative Space
Quote:Most of what we see are objects that occupy space, from the cup of coffee in your hand to the trees and buildings lining the street. We are surrounded by configurations of matter that pierce reality and comprise positive space. Not “positive” in the good sense of the word, but as yang is to yin: the opposite of the void that is negative space.
It is through this shadowy emptiness that we walk, talk, see, and live; negative space is the impossible cellophane layer that drapes the known world and is invisible to all but to the most perceptive minds.
It is possible to learn to see negative space though, in both the visual and imagined worlds. The first step is developing the ability to see, and the second is learning — as romantic poet John Keats put it — to be “capable of being in uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact & reason.”
https://medium.com/genius-week/seeking-g...7c755f641f
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