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Neanderthal Gene Probably Caused Up To A Million Covid Deaths
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@Ninurta this one is for you.

Quote:A single Neanderthal gene found in one in six Britons is likely to blame for up to a million Covid deaths, according to an Oxford academic.

The LZTFL1 gene is a Neanderthal gene found on chromosome three and has been previously shown to double a person’s risk of severe disease and death.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06...id-deaths/



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#2
Huh.

I was told it was a Neanderthal gene I have that gave me my immunity!

We both caught the covid, and neither of us knew it until tested. Never showed any signs or symptoms at all, and it if weren't for a covid virus found in a ball of snot from the back side of our brains via a torture device that looked like one of those foot-long Q-tips that I use to clean guns with, we'd have never had any indication at all.

They said that mutation was about 50,000 years old and originally found in Neanderthals.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#3
(06-10-2022, 10:51 PM)Ninurta Wrote: Huh.

I was told it was a Neanderthal gene I have that gave me my immunity!

We both caught the covid, and neither of us knew it until tested. Never showed any signs or symptoms at all, and it if weren't for a covid virus found in a ball of snot from the back side of our brains via a torture device that looked like one of those foot-long Q-tips that I use to clean guns with, we'd have never had any indication at all.

They said that mutation was about 50,000 years old and originally found in Neanderthals.

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I am Heinz 67. I have so many genes, from so many places, that if I would allow them to test me, I would probably be found to be not of this Earth.

I keep asking my Mother to come clean, and confess that my Father was an alien.

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#4
Stinking Neanderthals!!! Causing Covid.

Although I need to be careful. They are not called Neanderthals anymore. No Sir. 

First is was Neanderthal-Americans. But that wasn't inclusive enough. Not enough separation from Denisovans. And what about Neanderthals that were Homo Sapien oriented? Can't have that. 

So now it is Poly-Homo-Americans. PHA's for short. They are the mauve color on the LBGQT2+ etc. flag. It's a tip of the hat to the girl from Clan of the Cave Bears. 

... what was I originally talking about???
#5
(06-10-2022, 11:12 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: Stinking Neanderthals!!! Causing Covid.

Although I need to be careful. They are not called Neanderthals anymore. No Sir. 

First is was Neanderthal-Americans. But that wasn't inclusive enough. Not enough separation from Denisovans. And what about Neanderthals that were Homo Sapien oriented? Can't have that. 

So now it is Poly-Homo-Americans. PHA's for short. They are the mauve color on the LBGQT2+ etc. flag. It's a tip of the hat to the girl from Clan of the Cave Bears. 

... what was I originally talking about???

Crikey AB,  I backed away from my computer after reading that.  Gonna have another coffee while my feeble mind contemplates the elucidation of what you originally wrote,

Strewth mate,

Kind regards,

Bally:)
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(06-10-2022, 11:02 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(06-10-2022, 10:51 PM)Ninurta Wrote: Huh.

I was told it was a Neanderthal gene I have that gave me my immunity!

We both caught the covid, and neither of us knew it until tested. Never showed any signs or symptoms at all, and it if weren't for a covid virus found in a ball of snot from the back side of our brains via a torture device that looked like one of those foot-long Q-tips that I use to clean guns with, we'd have never had any indication at all.

They said that mutation was about 50,000 years old and originally found in Neanderthals.

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I am Heinz 67. I have so many genes, from so many places, that if I would allow them to test me, I would probably be found to be not of this Earth.

I keep asking my Mother to come clean, and confess that my Father was an alien.

Every human on Earth is.

If you go back between 7 and 10 generations, some genes get crowded out and drop off the radar - We only have so much genetic space to carry so many genes. Every generation, half comes from one parent and half from the other, so you lose half of each parents genes in every generation. When that's carried back far  enough, some genes fall off your genetic code altogether.

Additionally, mathematically speaking, you reach a point if you go far enough back that you have more ancestors in a generation than there were people on Earth, meaning that beyond that point, some ancestors will show up multiple times in your tree,

So, yeah, we're all mutts, and if you go far enough back, we're all inbred, too.

It's all part of being a human.

I tried to reconstruct my Dear Old Dad's genome, because he was never tested. That was an exercise in mathematics, too, and I got stuck at about 75% of his genome. The math works like this: I got half of my dad's DNA, and half of my mom's DNA. So I take my genome, and my mom's genome (because she was tested), and I "phase" mine with hers - that sorts out which of my DNA came from her, and which came from pa. So there I have 50% of his genome. Then I took one of my sisters' DNA, phased that against moms, and got another 50% file. Now those two 50% files will have some overlap, and some unique DNA. So you add them all together and sort of the same copies, only keeping one for Dear Old Dad's genome. On average, every child you add will add a diminishing percent of DNA that is unique and not found in the other kids - 50%, then another 25% (half of 50), then another 12.5% from the third child (half of 25), then another 6.25% from the fourth child, and so on. So you can never get a 100% reconstruction (theoretically), but with enough kids, you can get close. So I got stuck at 75% because just myself and one of my sisters were bold enough to get tested. The other two sisters and my half brother were too paranoid to get tested, and I doubt his ma has been tested, either, so the phasing of his DNA would be hit or miss, anyhow, since I wouldn't have hers to phase his against to sort out pa's DNA. Theoretically, I could reconstruct 96.9% of his genome if everyone were cooperative, but they ain't, so I get what I got.

Different companies test for different SNP's too, so no one company gets your entire genome when they test. I've been tested by two companies, so I took all my raw DNA from both, and merged them together, keeping only one copy for every SNP that both tested for, and came up with a more complete DNA profile which was almost twice as large as either one separately. That's the one I use in genealogical testing, and it makes a difference. For example, neither caught my match to Cheddar Man from mesolithic England by itself, but the combined file did. No telling what I might find if I merged in data from another company or two - I might be my own grandpa!

But we are all mutts. I have DNA from England, Ireland, Scotland, Scandinavia, America, the Balkans, and surprisingly, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, and Nigeria. I have DNA going back to the England of 9000 years ago - long before there even was an England - the Vindija Neanderthal and the Altai Neanderthal. Ain't none of us purebred show dogs. None of us.

We are all Heinz 57 if we dig deep enough.


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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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(06-10-2022, 11:12 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: Stinking Neanderthals!!! Causing Covid.

Although I need to be careful. They are not called Neanderthals anymore. No Sir. 

First is was Neanderthal-Americans. But that wasn't inclusive enough. Not enough separation from Denisovans. And what about Neanderthals that were Homo Sapien oriented? Can't have that. 

So now it is Poly-Homo-Americans. PHA's for short. They are the mauve color on the LBGQT2+ etc. flag. It's a tip of the hat to the girl from Clan of the Cave Bears. 

... what was I originally talking about???

Yup. In that book, Ayla gets raped by a Neanderthal, and gives birth to a cross-breed. That was a bold bit pf prescience on the part of the author, because back then no one believed that there was any interbreeding. Now we know better because, science.

I've got more Neanderthal DNA than 82% or so of the rest of the general population, and it shows in the way my knuckles drag the ground when I walk. However, i do not self-identify as a neanderthal-American, because I don't believe in hypheated-Americans. I just self identify as a "knuckle dragger".

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#8
(06-10-2022, 11:47 PM)Ninurta Wrote: We are all Heinz 57 if we dig deep enough.

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I consider myself Heinz 67 because I don't want to anger the ancestors by not including them. So I have to include the genes that I got from any ancestors I may have had from the stars.

I still think my Father was an alien. I am strongly connected to Mother Earth, I just don't feel like I am of her.

Sort of like the red headed step child, or adopted. 

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(06-11-2022, 12:04 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(06-10-2022, 11:47 PM)Ninurta Wrote: We are all Heinz 57 if we dig deep enough.

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I consider myself Heinz 67 because I don't want to anger the ancestors by not including them. So I have to include the genes that I got from any ancestors I may have had from the stars.

I still think my Father was an alien. I am strongly connected to Mother Earth, I just don't feel like I am of her.

Sort of like the red headed step child, or adopted. 

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I shall henceforth call you "Star Lady" in honor of your otherworldly origin and commonality with "Star Lord" of "Guardians of the Galaxy" fame.

We don't want to tick off the alien ancestors - they got powers and stuff!


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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#10
(06-11-2022, 12:31 AM)Ninurta Wrote:
(06-11-2022, 12:04 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(06-10-2022, 11:47 PM)Ninurta Wrote: We are all Heinz 57 if we dig deep enough.

.

I consider myself Heinz 67 because I don't want to anger the ancestors by not including them. So I have to include the genes that I got from any ancestors I may have had from the stars.

I still think my Father was an alien. I am strongly connected to Mother Earth, I just don't feel like I am of her.

Sort of like the red headed step child, or adopted. 

minusculebiggrin

I shall henceforth call you "Star Lady" in honor of your otherworldly origin and commonality with "Star Lord" of "Guardians of the Galaxy" fame.

We don't want to tick off the alien ancestors - they got powers and stuff!


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#11
(06-10-2022, 11:31 PM)Bally002 Wrote:
(06-10-2022, 11:12 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: Stinking Neanderthals!!! Causing Covid.

Although I need to be careful. They are not called Neanderthals anymore. No Sir. 

First is was Neanderthal-Americans. But that wasn't inclusive enough. Not enough separation from Denisovans. And what about Neanderthals that were Homo Sapien oriented? Can't have that. 

So now it is Poly-Homo-Americans. PHA's for short. They are the mauve color on the LBGQT2+ etc. flag. It's a tip of the hat to the girl from Clan of the Cave Bears. 

... what was I originally talking about???

Crikey AB,  I backed away from my computer after reading that.  Gonna have another coffee while my feeble mind contemplates the elucidation of what you originally wrote,

Strewth mate,

Kind regards,

Bally:)

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#12
Quote:Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA Discovered in Ancient South Americans

Two archaeological sites in Brazil are revealing the genetic ancestry of some of the continent’s earliest humans.

Scientists investigating the genomes of ancient South Americans have made a surprising discovery: the presence of DNA from Neanderthals and Denisovans, two species of humans that are now extinct. The findings complicate our understanding of ancient South Americans and their ancestries.

The research, which interrogated human remains from Brazil, Panama, and Uruguay, also revealed migration patterns of these early South Americans across the continent. It’s the first time that Denisovan or Neanderthal ancestries have been reported in ancient South Americans. The research is published this week in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B.

“The presence of these ancestries in ancient Native American genomes can be explained by episodes of interbreeding between anatomically modern humans and Neanderthals and Denisovans, which should have occurred millennia before the first human groups entered the Americas through Beringia,” said Andre Luiz Campelo dos Santos, an archaeologist at Florida Atlantic University and the study’s lead author, in an email to Gizmodo.

The research affirmed archaeological evidence of north-to-south migration toward South America, but also indicated migrations occurred in the opposite direction, along the Atlantic coast.

In the recent work, the team compared genomes from ancient human remains found in Brazil, Panama, and Uruguay with ancient remains from across the United States (including Alaska, to represent ancient Beringia), Peru, and Chile. Two ancient whole genomes from teeth found in northeast Brazil that were included in the study were newly sequenced.

In addition to the ancient human genomes featured in the analysis, the team looked at present-day worldwide genomes and DNA sequences taken from Denisovan and Neanderthal remains from Russia.

The latter remains are over tens of thousands of years old (Neanderthals disappear from the fossil record around 40,000 years ago), but some of the human remains are just 1,000 years old, according to the team’s analysis.
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#13
I was just reading about one theory that it was female Neanderthals that were sharing their genes with us Homo Sapiens. The theory goes that the men folk kept it in the family and the women were the ones to stray off the reservation. They can't seem to connect the XY genes to what we have left in the Sapiens genes apparently.

Women! You know it has to be the women going crazy for a week every month instead of some randy cavemen with an erection looking to poke anything available. I sincerely hope they find that the cavemen were out playing the field too.
#14
I just loved this piece from @EndtheMadnnessNow's article...

“...The Australasian ancestry in the Americas is perplexing, as this has been reported for isolated samples widely
separated by space and time and doesn’t show a clear pattern,” said Iosif Lazaridis, a geneticist at Harvard
University who was not affiliated with the work, in an email to Gizmodo..."

'I Lizard-iris'... So David Ike was correct?!

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