How They Are Going To Steal Our Homes

[Ninurta]

What they are making the area into, is far from what I wanted when I moved out here. I moved from the city, but the city moved to me.

I am looking for another place, out in the boonies, that may be able to stay country long enough the my time on this plane is up. I know that it will all fall under the thumb of the establishment eventually. I just hope I am not here to see it.

Yeah, the boonies are the way to go. The key I think is to pick a place in an area no one wants to be in.While taxes on my patch of wilderness have gone up astronomically in relative terms compared to what they used to be - around a 300% increased over the last 20 years - in absolute terms they are still pretty low because no one wants to be out there, making the land relatively valueless, which keeps the taxes low. The taxes on 34 acres out there run around 120-130 bucks a year, not a bank-breaking soul-crushing amount.

Economically depressed area, no job prospects for 100 or 150 miles, no one wants to live there because living off the land is the only option, and that takes pretty intensive labor. Farming, hunting, and foraging are the only means of survival, surrounded for 100 miles in all directions by armed and grouchy hillbillies. That's why it's my ace in the hole - not only does no one want to live there now, no one is ever gonna want to live there.

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[NightskyeB4Dawn]

What they are making the area into, is far from what I wanted when I moved out here. I moved from the city, but the city moved to me.

I am looking for another place, out in the boonies, that may be able to stay country long enough the my time on this plane is up. I know that it will all fall under the thumb of the establishment eventually. I just hope I am not here to see it.

Yeah, the boonies are the way to go. The key I think is to pick a place in an area no one wants to be in.While taxes on my patch of wilderness have gone up astronomically in relative terms compared to what they used to be - around a 300% increased over the last 20 years - in absolute terms they are still pretty low because no one wants to be out there, making the land relatively valueless, which keeps the taxes low. The taxes on 34 acres out there run around 120-130 bucks a year, not a bank-breaking soul-crushing amount.

Economically depressed area, no job prospects for 100 or 150 miles, no one wants to live there because living off the land is the only option, and that takes pretty intensive labor. Farming, hunting, and foraging are the only means of survival, surrounded for 100 miles in all directions by armed and grouchy hillbillies. That's why it's my ace in the hole - not only does no one want to live there now, no one is ever gonna want to live there.

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Yeah that sounds a lot like where I live now. Nothing but woods and swamps. Closest anything about 45 minutes to an hour away. Nobody wanted to live out here and we were the butt of many a joke, for a long time.

Until big business moved in. Bought up the swamps built ridiculously expensive gated communities, office buildings, a mall, and schools.

In less than twenty years I have seen the place transform at a speed that I had only seen in the movies. Now they are talking about building section eight housing, because all the wealthy people that have moved out here, have priced the workers out the market.

It is too damn far away for someone to drive to work for minimum wage, so now they have to build in a solution to the worker crisis. I have seen a very large increase in immigrant workers. You would think there would be less, since they built up the majority of the farm land, but I guess they can still find work, when the American worker is priced our of a location, and it is too far to travel for less money than it takes to get back and forth from work.

[Ninurta]

That's what I like about where I am now - not enough level ground to put either a swamp or a city on. The down side is that due to the lack of level ground, farming patches are small, family-sized or less, so no one is going to get rich farming around here. Outsiders used to think we were crazy for building houses on steep hillsides, but the simple fact was that level ground was at such a premium for farming so that folks could eat that we couldn't afford to use it up with building houses, so we built on the slopes. Just from the back of my house to the front, the ground drops about 15 feet, and it's a royal pain in the ass to get a car in or out, especially when it's raining and the ground is wet.

Some times, you've just gotta trade convenience for security.

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[NightskyeB4Dawn]

So is California the new model for the rest of the United States?

The media is broadcasting segment after segment of people that have been pushed into the streets. This is happening all over America.

So why in the hell aren't people fighting back. They will fight for a bunch BS at the drop of a damn tweet. But with people being made homeless by the thousands, every day, we say and do nothing.

I am hoping that DeSantis steps up and does something in Florida, fast!. I have a couple of options. Most people don't. It is ridiculous that big corporations are buying up developments and homes, and kicking working people out into the streets.

Everyone has their fingers into the pie. The banks, the insurance companies, and don't be fooled, the government is at the stern of this sinking ship.

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

Insurance companies are minions of the devil. They will be the demons that push many of us off the cliff.

We have no government. It is a hoax. An entity used by TPTB to slaughter us one by one. All so we can focus our fight on the wrong groups. And the real demons are safe to continue destroying us.

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

I tried to warn all the people that I know not to fall for the rent or mortgage moratorium. I told everyone I knew that the moratorium would be a sleeping monster that would eat them alive when it was over.

I warned the folk renting one of my houses, when they first spoke to me about the moratorium, that the cost of my allowing them to live free for months would have to be made up for after the moratorium, and the cost to them would be more severe in the end than it is when they were receiving checks from the government.

I have a very close and loving relationship with my tenants. So, I did not have problem, and they continued to pay on time as they did before. And they are now very happy they listened to me, because they see the problems that so many others are going through.

We can no longer claim that we can't decipher the handwriting on the wall. They are going to do whatever they can to make sure that you don't own a damn thing. Big business is just one strong arm of a system that is determined to own us and control us completely.

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

Economically evicted. A new buzz word.

This looks like a deliberate plan. My area property taxes just went up by 13.55%. No one is safe. They are not going to stop until we demand that the government intervenes, and then they will own us lock, stock, and barrel. Even if you choose to live off grid, you will be a constant nomad, because you will either comply or you will be forced to move on, until even moving on will be impossible.




This happening everywhere. This is not just a California problem any longer. The northern mid west is being added to the mix. I lived in Minnesota for a number of years. Back then they had a lot more services and assistance for people. The did not leave them to battle the below freezing temperature alone. That was once thought of as inhumane.

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

Still think it is not all planned.

They will control all that you see and hear. As well as all of what you eat and drink.

Cashiers are not the only folk that will be out of a job.

Also explains why they are talking about giving free phones and internet service to the poor.

[rickymouse]

We are doing all right tax wise on our house so far.  We are locked in at a rate that does not increase very fast, the taxable value is a lot less than the assessed value, actually half the price, because it rises at a maximum rate till you build something new or sell the house...then it jumps up to the assessed value.  I cannot even put in a sidewalk or an outside sauna.  I cannot hook up natural gas...that is an improvement that increases the value and unlocks the ability to keep it at the reduced increase every year.  So our taxes would go up about twelve hundred bucks a year to save maybe five hundred in heating costs a year.  I am a builder and will build my sauna on the old equipment trailer I own that has lifetime plates on it this coming year. 

We owe nothing on our house, and we are not going to borrow anything.  We live within our means, we have a budget and we do pretty well following it, but have not saved anything the last two years.  We have changed our diet to a much better diet, I take no meds, the wife takes only a water pill and a very small zoloft, which I do not think she even needs since she retired eight years ago.  She is seventy, and relatively healthy, I am sixty six and other than my epilepsy, I am doing all right.  I know enough about metabolism and food chemistry and meds to correct problems we have naturally.  It seems to be working pretty good so far...but I have no control to know how I would be with the changes, I know my health has got much better over the last three or four years instead of getting worse like it does for most seniors. 

So I don't expect we will have too many medical bills that are unnecessary, I won't go for a test that medicare does not approve because our health insurance does not cover anything that is not medicare approved...we have a part D plan with dental and eyeglasses, but even the deductables suck.  My wife pays for all the meds, I guess we have a five hundred dollar a year deductible...they cost way less than that.  We do not have much of a payment on the copay for the insurance through her work, so I do not feel obligated to use it.  I will also no longer have one of those free once a year health appointments...they wind up costing a lot since they always find a test you need that is not covered, which always comes out normal in our case.

We also could drop our house insurance if needed, because we don't have a loan, and just get a liability policy.  Our car does have a loan on it, it is a 2020 and we owe around ninety five hundred on it, we may pay it up this year if there are no big expenses, that way we can take the full coverage off if we need to reduce expenses. 

Some people are in a hard place, like my two daughters, they owe a lot on their houses, we cannot help them out very long if they have a health problem, We are not going to give them all our savings, both of them waste lots of money and could have paid things down more.  My youngest daughter could pay off their loan in two years...her taxes are high, but she cannot do anything about that.  The cities water and sewer rates are outrageous, the water is not even drinkable, most people have to buy bottled water.  My daughters water and sewer bills run close to a hundred sixty bucks...we pay a hundred ninety bucks every five years to pump the septic, and our well is thirty two years old...if we need a pump it may cost maybe a grand and a half to put in a new big high volume similar pump and new control and tank...that will last another twenty five years for sure.  I am friends with the well driller, I should get it done before he dies or retires and sells his company.  Power to pump the water costs about six bucks a month.

A real lot of people are not in the same shape we are financially, they could lose everything in six months to a year.

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

You sound like you are in a good place.

I am at the mercy of the State and the bank, because of the crazy rates increases in insurance. 

I am hoping DeSantis will rein in the insurance companies, and that he will see the wisdom in restricting the State from increasing taxes on existing home owners, since the over valuing of home prices should not be at their expense. 

I am at that point where the place is too big for me to manage. It takes a two whole day's for me to mow the lawn, and two weeks to recover. 

I would love to hand it over to one of the kids, but they are all so plugged into the meta verse that they don't know how to do anything that requires physical activity.

The only reason I haven't sold, is because I can't make up my mind as to where to go. I hate to think about it, but my Mother is near 90. If anything happens to her, I will likely become a vagabond. 

Check into an extended stay hotel, and just follow the rails.

[Snarl]

A real lot of people are not in the same shape we are financially, they could lose everything in six months to a year.

You see it coming too, don't you?

Wife and I were talking about 'what ifs' yesterday or the day before.  She thinks we ought to stockpile long-term food, like our friends down in Alabama are doing.  I think we've got enough to tide us over and I don't believe one could stockpile a quantity sufficient to last through a Depression. Who would want to eat that crap for 10 years or so? ... Especially when I think it'll last at least 20.

I like that you included the status of your health in defining your situation.  Unfortunately a single medical catastrophe is all it takes.  A bad fall resulting in a break might be the end for most of us, let alone a gunshot wound to the guts.

We should have turned off the electricity a long time ago to see what the real effects will be like.  Too costly now to just try it on a whim.

[Snarl]

The only reason I haven't sold, is because I can't make up my mind as to where to go.

We sold our Florida property for $330K less than 'market value'. Glad to be rid of it.

Should have enough cash to live our current lifestyle. Should have.

I don't see anyone maintaining a lifestyle if the Politicians keep doing the bidding of the elites. Still having fun today though!!

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

A real lot of people are not in the same shape we are financially, they could lose everything in six months to a year.

You see it coming too, don't you?

You have to be deaf, ignorant, and blind, to not see it.

Or complicit and conditioned.

[rickymouse]

You sound like you are in a good place.

I am at the mercy of the State and the bank, because of the crazy rates increases in insurance. 

I am hoping DeSantis will rein in the insurance companies, and that he will see the wisdom in restricting the State from increasing taxes on existing home owners, since the over valuing of home prices should not be at their expense. 

I am at that point where the place is too big for me to manage. It takes a two whole day's for me to mow the lawn, and two weeks to recover. 

I would love to hand it over to one of the kids, but they are all so plugged into the meta verse that they don't know how to do anything that requires physical activity.

The only reason I haven't sold, is because I can't make up my mind as to where to go. I hate to think about it, but my Mother is near 90. If anything happens to her, I will likely become a vagabond. 

Check into an extended stay hotel, and just follow the rails.

I was out planting some cucumbers this morning at about eight oclock, just put the bread ingredients into the bread machine to mix the dough.  I had rototilled the garden a couple of days ago, planted the potatoes and a few rutabaga, cabbage plants, and brussel sprout plants yesterday.  I transplanted the cucumber plants and went to get another aluminum pole to keep the deer discouraged, and when I pulled up the pole, it mad noise and disturbed something about seven feet from me.  It got all anxious...it was a fawn, it was about two foot high to the back and full of spots, it couldn't go towards the fence, and there was a dead tree ahead of it it got tangled up in.  It was alone and scared, mother was around somewhere, they leave their kids near our house sometimes because they trust us not to hurt them.  I tried to talk calmly to the baby but it was all scared from the metal on metal sound  and it wiggled through that tree full of little branches and ran.  Oh great, mama is going to come back now looking for the kid and it is gone...so much for our garden, she will eat it all as it comes up now because we are lousy babysitters.  It doesn't appear that it got punctured, from anything on the fence or tree, and I did not see any broken branches with wet or an eyeball stuck on it....but who knows where it went, hopefully mommy will find it.

We are not going anywhere for a while hopefully, it is nice here, we like the wildlife.  We like the trees and weeds in the yard that get flowers on them...they are pretty.  I do not cut our grass a lot, we have four legged lawnmowers that use potatoes and homemade bread and rolls for fuel that mow the grass.  We will probably have two does and their fawns staying off of the back yard in the woods this summer, I will have to buy lots of spuds and carrots for them to eat.  The deer that come around here to our house have been coming for many generations now, when the old does do not come back that were coming for years...it is a little sad, we know they probably died.  I would never shoot the does here, I do not shoot friends, but if they haul me a buck to shoot, I may need to eat the buck in the future.  I do not like shooting does or fawns.  And I am sixty six now and I get attached to wildlife now way more than I used to.

[Brotherman]

You sound like you are in a good place.

I am at the mercy of the State and the bank, because of the crazy rates increases in insurance. 

I am hoping DeSantis will rein in the insurance companies, and that he will see the wisdom in restricting the State from increasing taxes on existing home owners, since the over valuing of home prices should not be at their expense. 

I am at that point where the place is too big for me to manage. It takes a two whole day's for me to mow the lawn, and two weeks to recover. 

I would love to hand it over to one of the kids, but they are all so plugged into the meta verse that they don't know how to do anything that requires physical activity.

The only reason I haven't sold, is because I can't make up my mind as to where to go. I hate to think about it, but my Mother is near 90. If anything happens to her, I will likely become a vagabond. 

Check into an extended stay hotel, and just follow the rails.

I was out planting some cucumbers this morning at about eight oclock, just put the bread ingredients into the bread machine to mix the dough.  I had rototilled the garden a couple of days ago, planted the potatoes and a few rutabaga, cabbage plants, and brussel sprout plants yesterday.  I transplanted the cucumber plants and went to get another aluminum pole to keep the deer discouraged, and when I pulled up the pole, it mad noise and disturbed something about seven feet from me.  It got all anxious...it was a fawn, it was about two foot high to the back and full of spots, it couldn't go towards the fence, and there was a dead tree ahead of it it got tangled up in.  It was alone and scared, mother was around somewhere, they leave their kids near our house sometimes because they trust us not to hurt them.  I tried to talk calmly to the baby but it was all scared from the metal on metal sound  and it wiggled through that tree full of little branches and ran.  Oh great, mama is going to come back now looking for the kid and it is gone...so much for our garden, she will eat it all as it comes up now because we are lousy babysitters.  It doesn't appear that it got punctured, from anything on the fence or tree, and I did not see any broken branches with wet or an eyeball stuck on it....but who knows where it went, hopefully mommy will find it.

We are not going anywhere for a while hopefully, it is nice here, we like the wildlife.  We like the trees and weeds in the yard that get flowers on them...they are pretty.  I do not cut our grass a lot, we have four legged lawnmowers that use potatoes and homemade bread and rolls for fuel that mow the grass.  We will probably have two does and their fawns staying off of the back yard in the woods this summer, I will have to buy lots of spuds and carrots for them to eat.  The deer that come around here to our house have been coming for many generations now, when the old does do not come back that were coming for years...it is a little sad, we know they probably died.  I would never shoot the does here, I do not shoot friends, but if they haul me a buck to shoot, I may need to eat the buck in the future.  I do not like shooting does or fawns.  And I am sixty six now and I get attached to wildlife now way more than I used to.

The deer are beautiful they don't even mind the badgers. The other day my roomie found a baby possum hanging out in our hedges when trimmin them bitches up to code    I love me my possum brethren accept they don't fuck with the trash the way my badgers do 

[Snarl]

Oh great, mama is going to come back now looking for the kid and it is gone...so much for our garden, she will eat it all as it comes up now because we are lousy babysitters.

We will probably have two does and their fawns staying off of the back yard in the woods this summer, I will have to buy lots of spuds and carrots for them to eat.

We've got a couple of does and their fawns bedding down in the woods just across the creek. I think our presence mostly keeps the predators away. If they cross the creek, I let the dog out on 'em and he runs 'em back to their side.

I tie up a salt block on their side and up the creek a-ways every other year .  Other than that, there's no encouragement for them to get any closer to us ... which is fine with me. Don't need 'em dropping ticks in the back yard for the dog to pick up, or them getting into my wife's plantings.

Unfortunately, they've never brought a buck in close.  I've caught sight of a ten-pointer a couple hundred yards deeper into the woods. He makes himself scarce right as hunting season starts.  Maybe this year though. 

[rickymouse]

Oh great, mama is going to come back now looking for the kid and it is gone...so much for our garden, she will eat it all as it comes up now because we are lousy babysitters.

We will probably have two does and their fawns staying off of the back yard in the woods this summer, I will have to buy lots of spuds and carrots for them to eat.

We've got a couple of does and their fawns bedding down in the woods just across the creek. I think our presence mostly keeps the predators away. If they cross the creek, I let the dog out on 'em and he runs 'em back to their side.

I tie up a salt block on their side and up the creek a-ways every other year .  Other than that, there's no encouragement for them to get any closer to us ... which is fine with me. Don't need 'em dropping ticks in the back yard for the dog to pick up, or them getting into my wife's plantings.

Unfortunately, they've never brought a buck in close.  I've caught sight of a ten-pointer a couple hundred yards deeper into the woods. He makes himself scarce right as hunting season starts.  Maybe this year though. 

Well, Mama dear got me back for scaring the fawn.  She ate the tops off the cabbage and brussel sprouts I just transplanted into the garden and pulled out the rutabaggas and let them sitting on top to dry the roots.  A Mothers scorn is never something good.

[Snarl]

Oh great, mama is going to come back now looking for the kid and it is gone...so much for our garden, she will eat it all as it comes up now because we are lousy babysitters.

We've got a couple of does and their fawns bedding down in the woods just across the creek.

Well, Mama dear got me back for scaring the fawn.  She ate the tops off the cabbage and brussel sprouts I just transplanted into the garden and pulled out the rutabaggas and let them sitting on top to dry the roots.  A Mothers scorn is never something good.

That's the way to call 'em!!

Did she round up her fawn?

[ancientlight]

You sound like you are in a good place.

I am at the mercy of the State and the bank, because of the crazy rates increases in insurance. 

I am hoping DeSantis will rein in the insurance companies, and that he will see the wisdom in restricting the State from increasing taxes on existing home owners, since the over valuing of home prices should not be at their expense. 

I am at that point where the place is too big for me to manage. It takes a two whole day's for me to mow the lawn, and two weeks to recover. 

I would love to hand it over to one of the kids, but they are all so plugged into the meta verse that they don't know how to do anything that requires physical activity.

The only reason I haven't sold, is because I can't make up my mind as to where to go. I hate to think about it, but my Mother is near 90. If anything happens to her, I will likely become a vagabond. 

Check into an extended stay hotel, and just follow the rails.

Hi, You don't know me , I don't post here much , but I had to say something when you mentioned your mom .
I feel the same way about my mom    She is 83, and I feel the exact same. If something happens to her I will become a recluse , never leave the house again. So I can relate ((hugs)).
Feel free to PM me if you need a chat sometime 

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

I am not a financial expert, but I see things going south soon in the housing industry, so of course, I agree with this guy.

I am sure the Fed is going to increase the number of homeless people in America. I may be one of them.