Thread Rating:
  • 6 Vote(s) - 5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
If You Seek a Beautiful Peninsula...
#1
I know there are a few Michiganders on R-N3.
I wonder how many of them and other R-N3ers have heard of the latest attempt of Big Agri to rape the land.
They want to farm potash from under the ground in central Michigan, presumably without doing due diligence.
Probably with more than a few greased palms though tinyok tinywhat

The country’s largest potash mine is coming to Michigan. Here’s why locals are worried.

Quote:A mile and a half below Doug Miller’s backyard in central Michigan lie the remnants of an ancient salty sea. When the waters receded around 350 million years ago, they left behind thick deposits of potash, a commonly used fertilizer. For Miller, a retired engineer, the stuff is out of sight, but top of mind, as the company Michigan Potash & Salt has sought to build a mining facility next door. 
The facility would pull vast amounts of groundwater from the same aquifer as Miller’s. “I highly expect if they actually do this, my well would run dry,” he said.
The mine in the rural township of Evart has been in the works since 2012, and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has raised the stakes. With its close ally Belarus, the two countries produce 40 percent of the world’s potash, which is rich in potassium, one of three essential plant nutrients. Prices were already on the rise, and shutting off major providers from global markets is expected to keep pushing them up. So the U.S., which imports nearly all of its potash, is looking to support domestic sources, like the planned mine next to Miller’s property.
BTW, the article says we get 83% of our potash from Canada, which AFAIK is not near the Ukraine and not part of the Russian sanctions.
It's not bad enough we allow Nestle to steal our water.
"I must not fear.  Fear is the mind-killer.  Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. 
I will face my fear.  I will permit it to pass over me and through me.  And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.  Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain." Frank Herbert, Dune
#2
I love how in that article it says they are just gonna blast the wastewater back into the ground in deep wells... Yup lets contaminate the FRESH ground water with brine, if by some chance they don't completely drain the aquifers. >_< 

Isn't there some ancient seabed out in the middle of a desert somewhere in New Mexico or something they could mine this stuff instead? Ya know, somewhere without an extensive population of humans and animals nearby to be greatly affected when their venture fails in a few years? *shakes head*
#3
(04-21-2022, 12:28 AM)Selbiene_Raveren Wrote: I love how in that article it says they are just gonna blast the wastewater back into the ground in deep wells... Yup lets contaminate the FRESH ground water with brine, if by some chance they don't completely drain the aquifers. >_< 

Isn't there some ancient seabed out in the middle of a desert somewhere in New Mexico or something they could mine this stuff instead? Ya know, somewhere without an extensive population of humans and animals nearby to be greatly affected when their venture fails in a few years? *shakes head*

What had me shaking my head was that Cargill tried it in the area, and failed.
Let's hope this greedy crew fails as well, and before they do much environmental/ecological damage.
"I must not fear.  Fear is the mind-killer.  Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. 
I will face my fear.  I will permit it to pass over me and through me.  And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.  Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain." Frank Herbert, Dune
#4
Similar to Lithium mining that they're trying to do in Calif, and pumping the waste back into the ground. These ruling-class greedy hyprocrite elites on one hand are stating they're saving Earth, and on the other destroying it by using the excuse, muh, Russia bad.

I've hiked around the potash ponds in Utah, near Moab. Really bizarre, bright, rich blue looking. The potash mined near Moab is from the Pennsylvanian-age Paradox Formation. Utah and New Mexico are (were) the only two states that currently produce potash.

These Pools Help Support Half The People On Earth:



Quote:India plans to buy 1 million tonnes of potash from Belarus in the first such bilateral deal between the two countries after sanctions crippled Minsk's ability to sell the crop nutrient, two Indian officials involved in the discussions told Reuters.

India secures nearly all its potash through imports, and historically about one-fifth of the 4 million to 5 million tonnes it imports annually comes from Belarus.
Economic Times

Quote:Canada is the world's largest potash producer, accounting for 32% of the world's total in 2020. Four countries (Canada, Russia, Belarus and China) accounted for approximately 80% of the world's potash production in 2020.

Potash Facts
"The New World fell not to a sword but to a meme." – Daniel Quinn

"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that." ― John Lennon

Rogue News says that the US is a reality show posing as an Empire.


#5
Just when you think the resources of our great state were tapped out by the robber barons, they find something else to exploit. They mined salt, copper, iron, sand, gravel, cut timber, pumped water, fished, hunted and destroyed natural habitats by conversion to agriculture. ETA: Forgot to mention that the state burned over twice after the massive logging in the 1800s and shipping commerce has caused a freshwater invasive species problem.

The whole damn state would be an empty desert if there wasn't some conservation efforts.

Check out this story -

Big Prairie Desert Story
#6
(04-21-2022, 04:34 AM)Michigan Swamp Buck Wrote: Just when you think the resources of our great state were tapped out by the robber barons, they find something else to exploit. They mined salt, copper, iron, sand, gravel, cut timber, pumped water, fished, hunted and destroyed natural habitats by conversion to agriculture. ETA: Forgot to mention that the state burned over twice after the massive logging in the 1800s and shipping commerce has caused a freshwater invasive species problem.

The whole damn state would be an empty desert if there wasn't some conservation efforts.

Check out this story -

Big Prairie Desert Story

Thanks for your reply, actually I was looking forward to it as IIRC you live near a wetland.
"I must not fear.  Fear is the mind-killer.  Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. 
I will face my fear.  I will permit it to pass over me and through me.  And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.  Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain." Frank Herbert, Dune
#7
(04-21-2022, 12:03 AM)DontTreadOnMe Wrote: I know there are a few Michiganders on R-N3.
I wonder how many of them and other R-N3ers have heard of the latest attempt of Big Agri to rape the land.
They want to farm potash from under the ground in central Michigan, presumably without doing due diligence.
Probably with more than a few greased palms though tinyok tinywhat

The country’s largest potash mine is coming to Michigan. Here’s why locals are worried.

Quote:A mile and a half below Doug Miller’s backyard in central Michigan lie the remnants of an ancient salty sea. When the waters receded around 350 million years ago, they left behind thick deposits of potash, a commonly used fertilizer. For Miller, a retired engineer, the stuff is out of sight, but top of mind, as the company Michigan Potash & Salt has sought to build a mining facility next door. 
The facility would pull vast amounts of groundwater from the same aquifer as Miller’s. “I highly expect if they actually do this, my well would run dry,” he said.
The mine in the rural township of Evart has been in the works since 2012, and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has raised the stakes. With its close ally Belarus, the two countries produce 40 percent of the world’s potash, which is rich in potassium, one of three essential plant nutrients. Prices were already on the rise, and shutting off major providers from global markets is expected to keep pushing them up. So the U.S., which imports nearly all of its potash, is looking to support domestic sources, like the planned mine next to Miller’s property.
BTW, the article says we get 83% of our potash from Canada, which AFAIK is not near the Ukraine and not part of the Russian sanctions.
It's not bad enough we allow Nestle to steal our water.

Great.

Nestle and this place are a OK but running resouces under ground from the UP.....nope 

Plotiticiana are scum
#8
(04-21-2022, 04:34 AM)Michigan Swamp Buck Wrote: "shipping commerce has caused a freshwater invasive species problem."

Zebra mussels! \o/ Gotta love em... 

I remember going to the beach as a kid, those things were all over the place.

And asian carp. We'd go out there after a high tide and dead fish would be all over the beach from the steel mills with their pollution. And there were days if the wind was blowing just right, whatever waste water they were pouring back out into the lake, the water at the beach we went to would be dark red. Never went swimming on those days.

Joke's on Nestle if they're taking water from Lake Michigan. I wouldn't be drinking it. Its not even safe to eat the fish due to the mercury content.
#9
Corporations are destroying the planet. Period.


And the politicians that allow it to happen are just as guilty.



Yet they want to lecture the average citizen about global warming, as if it is OUR fault.


NO!!


It is the politicians fault for allowing corporations to do as they please, all the while Corps line politicians wallets for looking the other way.


It will never end.
The Corporations will continue to destroy our beautiful planet with the help of politicians

a.k.a. 'snarky412'
 
        

#10
(04-21-2022, 03:29 PM)DontTreadOnMe Wrote:
(04-21-2022, 04:34 AM)Michigan Swamp Buck Wrote: Just when you think the resources of our great state were tapped out by the robber barons, they find something else to exploit. They mined salt, copper, iron, sand, gravel, cut timber, pumped water, fished, hunted and destroyed natural habitats by conversion to agriculture. ETA: Forgot to mention that the state burned over twice after the massive logging in the 1800s and shipping commerce has caused a freshwater invasive species problem.

The whole damn state would be an empty desert if there wasn't some conservation efforts.

Check out this story -

Big Prairie Desert Story

Thanks for your reply, actually I was looking forward to it as IIRC you live near a wetland.

I have a big problem with anyone or any company pumping waste water into the ground that could poison the water table. I also don't like companies pumping up more than their share from a water well or anyone interfering with the creek that runs though my place.

I do however support private water rights like my water well, although it's too late for surface waters, that's in trust with the state and federal government. So because I have no surface water rights, obviously I can't alter my swamp and may have trouble with any agriculture I may want to do even though I'm zoned agricultural/residential. I thought of planting wild rice in the swamp, the kind Native Americans used, maybe it's a product I can sell. Technically it's a native wetland plant, I might even be able to get a grant to plant it, sounds iffy though.


Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)