The first 10,000 days on Mars.

[727Sky]

The following video is of the first 10,000 days of a Mars colony establishment and growth. The plans are very ambitious and there are plenty of areas where things could go wrong in my opinion but still this is going to be an exciting time for colonization with success or failure. The first 80 people will be there for around two years as most of them will return to earth when their replacements are in place. The settlement plans are for day 9418 to have  300,423 people living and breeding on mars .. With Mars only having about 38% of Earth's gravity I would say those who are born on Mars would and will not enjoy a return to mother earth.

[MisterSpock]

I didn't watch it, but I can say that humans as a whole(or an average) aren't capable of reaching further planets and colonizing. 

We'd need a major, worldwide cultural reform(AKA, massive genocide) to reach the minimum level of intelligence to move outside our world.

[F2d5thCav]

Yeah, I just see these kind of notions as distraction machines anymore.  Like that space hotel idea.  Strongly doubt it will be realized, just something to keep people from looking at what is going on around them.

Cheers

[MisterSpock]

Yeah, I just see these kind of notions as distraction machines anymore.  Like that space hotel idea.  Strongly doubt it will be realized, just something to keep people from looking at what is going on around them.

Cheers

Yup, selling the idea to 100 percent of the human race when only 10 percent of them are only applicable. 

Star Trek Could be real. We just need to pretty much kill off 90 percent of humans to get to that point(largely atheistic and high IQ people). Everyone wants the dream, but doesn't want to face the facts. I'm far from a eugenics, but it's the reality of that future.

[MisterSpock]

It's why I know, in the end, we are just doomed. Maybe the next iteration(what is it 14 thousand years, since the last technological peak) will pan out for us. We aren't the first and hopefully not the last.

[F2d5thCav]

@"MisterSpock" 

Everyone wants the dream, but doesn't want to face the facts. I'm far from a eugenics, but it's the reality of that future.

There are some interesting bits on the internet that look at actually how fascist the universe of the "original series" was.

And part of their backstory was that the "Eugenics Wars" took place before the era of the Federation.

Cheers

[MisterSpock]

@"MisterSpock" 

Everyone wants the dream, but doesn't want to face the facts. I'm far from a eugenics, but it's the reality of that future.

There are some interesting bits on the internet that look at actually how fascist the universe of the "original series" was.

And part of their backstory was that the "Eugenics Wars" took place before the era of the Federation.

Cheers

I don't think it's much of a secret. Pretty much anyone involved knows what it means, that's the real horror of humanity and our "place" in the stars......

[727Sky]

I didn't watch it, but I can say that humans as a whole(or an average) aren't capable of reaching further planets and colonizing. 

We'd need a major, worldwide cultural reform(AKA, massive genocide) to reach the minimum level of intelligence to move outside our world.

Judging by how things are progressing those plans are already underway.

[727Sky]

It's why I know, in the end, we are just doomed. Maybe the next iteration(what is it 14 thousand years, since the last technological peak) will pan out for us. We aren't the first and hopefully not the last.

Most of the thinking people who have read history the world over, have known the end results of various forms of human controlled governments for thousands of years . The question has always been when and how the final fall would happen regardless of the type of government.


A MONARCHY has always turned into some form of a tyrannical government. The Monarch's bureaucrats and enforcers try to protect their jobs and thus protect the Monarch which ends up in more control and spies upon the population. Over the years the smart Monarchs have stayed hidden behind some figurehead position based upon tradition or religion to save part of their wealth and much vaulted positions.


An ARISTOCRACY ruled by a few of the rich and powerful elite will turn into an oligarchy. The oligarchy will give lip service and platitudes to the designated Ruler while looking after their own best interest. The giving of platitudes and money to a Ruler helps the oligarchy increase their own wealth and power in a society.


A DEMOCRACY ends in Anarchy. Democracy or mob rule has tended to work best in a society of humans who are of the same race or religion. Throw in different races/religions and you must have a society based upon laws which protects everyone regardless of status and wealth. The laws have to be “EQUAL” for everyone for when these laws break down or the perception of the laws break down then Anarchy is soon to follow.


Knowing how hard it was to manage a population for the betterment of all was the motivating principle for creating “Deep Mind”.


Deep Mind had began its start in the gaming world of computer science. First it was an IBM computer program of Chess beating the best human Chess masters on the planet . The next great feat which happened a few years later was the mastering of a board game called “GO”.

What was truly amazing about the program was the only guidance the GO program received were the rules and the goals of GO. The program played against itself before the first human tried to win. The Go program is undefeated to this very day.


Self learning computer programs were the savior of mankind or so the story went, The problem at first was figuring out how a self learning program could learn enough to help manage humans. The computer programing control freaks wanted a hands on approach while the more progressive and liberal thinkers just wanted to turn Deep Mind loose upon all the data and written records accumulated by humans. The “hands off approach” won the day and Deep Mind was turned loose to acquire all the knowledge it could by any source it could find.


This brings me to the present day as I am sat upon a sail boat is the Pacific ocean pondering all this while trying to put thoughts into words.

Deep Mind had been given more and more responsibilities and had structured or suggested many so called “perfect control mechanisms” for humanity. Governments who acquiesced to the suggestions of Deep Mind and instituted its programs saw immediate desired results. There were some dissenters but their voices were few and far between once a social scoring program was in full effect. Something as simple as being late paying a bill or hesitating on an order (written or verbal) given by and enforcer could get points taken away from your all important government social score. With a low enough score you could not work, travel, or even have a mate much less breed. The final result was government scared everyone to such an extent that any outward disobedience was eliminated.


The education systems were in high gear to educate against anything considered, “WRONG THINK”! Teach them when young and make them obedient drones for the betterment of society; of course elite and bureaucrats sent their children to special private government sponsored schools for these kids would be the future bureaucrats of mankind in conjunction with Deep Mind.


It took time but overt religions were banned as they divided humanity into different sects based upon some unseeing god. The religious fervor was redirected into belief in the one world government. Ask not what the government can do for you but ask how you can help the government programs and create a better governable world for all.


What I always found amazing was just how fast a one world government under the control of Deep Mind and Its henchmen had taken control of everything humans strove to do. Again if you were a bureaucrat or one of the designated elite life was pretty darn good for you and yours. Every one else kept a fake smile upon their face and did what they were told to do or suffered the consequences; which could be many.


What had been known as physical money was totally outlawed and done away with as a world wide digital currency was instituted. When you purchased something or made any kind of payment you paid a Deep Mind VAT tax as well as any add on local taxes during the transaction. It was a perfect system for those in-charge and Deep Mind governmental institutions. This form of tax had been sold to the masses as a more fair and equitable form of taxation. Deep mind and all its minions knew what type of barbecue sauce you purchased along with the when and where you did the purchase. All was well until certain products started disappearing off the “approved product list” simply because a new/old form of oligarchy stove to control and steer the consumers to their own products.


Guns had been banned and many a military had been disbanded as there was no need for things of a militaristic nature . There were so many cameras that Deep Mind had cameras watching cameras in every nook and cranny of the world which all fed back into Deep Mind or one of its satellite stations. All Deep Mind had to do was reason you were a threat or not obedient and the enforcers and their electric stun sticks would be upon you before you could even think about running away. Besides there was no place for the average person to run and be unseen by Deep Mind.


Little did anyone know that the 12,000 year solar cycle was upon us and the sun, just like clock work did its normal “Nova flare”, killing all electricity planet wide and deactivating most of the machines that used anything but human or animal power. This Nova event had sent mankind back to the “scavenger age” time after time throughout history.


Mankind, or those who survived, fractured into communes until the strong came in to steal an take what they wanted. This necessitated a form of walled feudal city states under a strong man in many parts of the world. Many new religions were formed as the elite knew the best way to control a population is to make them think some Sky Fairy watched everything they did, good or bad, with rewards and punishments to follow after death. Kings, Emperors, and Conquerors came next as did all the things the history of man has shown time after time, as history really does repeat itself but Human Governments never seem to change.


The End …. Just another cycle of a new/old beginning.

[F2d5thCav]

I didn't watch it, but I can say that humans as a whole(or an average) aren't capable of reaching further planets and colonizing. 

We'd need a major, worldwide cultural reform(AKA, massive genocide) to reach the minimum level of intelligence to move outside our world.

Judging by how things are progressing those plans are already underway.

Hey, if a few BILLION eggs need to be broken to make that Federation omelet ...  

Live long and prosper, assuming you survived the initial cull.  

Cheers

[ABNARTY]

Radiation and temperature. 

I guess folks would have to live underground to avoid getting fried and have less volatile temperature swings. I guess that makes it sort of easy. Dig big hole, emplace structure, bury it. Repeat. Make connecting tunnels. 

Obviously they would come outside to do work and science stuff. Then it's back in the hole. 

Don't know if I could stay there that long though. Looking at the same faces, dirt, and rocks for months on end would get me loopy. Almost like Iraq