Why does "Own Nothing, Be Happy" remind me of "Arbeit Macht Frei"? Because it's going to be that kind of control? Because it's that much of a BS lie? All that I know is that at some level, it is the same animal.
(11-13-2020, 10:30 AM)drussell41 Wrote: Why does "Own Nothing, Be Happy" remind me of "Arbeit Macht Frei"? Because it's going to be that kind of control? Because it's that much of a BS lie? All that I know is that at some level, it is the same animal.
Yep... if you own nothing, you have nothing to supply yourself and loved-ones with in order to have a fair existence.
Unless... you rely on a Government to take care of you.
The basics of life have been lost. If -as a child, you misbehaved or judged to have been naughty, a punishment may
issued. No trip to a favourite place, treats withheld, ordered to go to bed without supper or even a physical chastising.
All decisions made the by the parent.
Now simply swap-out the word 'parent' for another that represents an authoritative figure and the answer to why
the credo 'Own Nothing, Be Happy' becomes -not only infantile, but down-right dangerous.
The 1960's movie-version of H.G Wells' 'The Time Machine' offers a view of the life-perception of those who adhere
to such silly ideas.
(11-13-2020, 10:30 AM)drussell41 Wrote: Why does "Own Nothing, Be Happy" remind me of "Arbeit Macht Frei"? Because it's going to be that kind of control? Because it's that much of a BS lie? All that I know is that at some level, it is the same animal.
We just got our house paid off last year. Now the property taxes are going up AGAIN, and that's under Trump. I can't imagine how much they'll jump if Biden gets in.
If we end up having to sell after ME working my a$$ off to get it paid, you are going to see the REAL bitch in me come out.
This may not have anything to do with your OP, but it just struck me, wondering if someday I will own nothing after working as hard as I have all my life TO own something.
(11-13-2020, 07:19 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: We just got our house paid off last year. Now the property taxes are going up AGAIN, and that's under Trump. I can't imagine how much they'll jump if Biden gets in.
If we end up having to sell after ME working my a$$ off to get it paid, you are going to see the REAL bitch in me come out.
This may not have anything to do with your OP, but it just struck me, wondering if someday I will own nothing after working as hard as I have all my life TO own something.
One way of stopping real property ownership is, indeed, to tax people out of it. We have one friend who had to move because of it.
(11-13-2020, 10:30 AM)drussell41 Wrote: Why does "Own Nothing, Be Happy" remind me of "Arbeit Macht Frei"? Because it's going to be that kind of control? Because it's that much of a BS lie? All that I know is that at some level, it is the same animal.
Sure. But they'll have to really ramp up the following from 1984:
"....his society's methods of keeping its citizens peaceful, which includes their constant consumption of a soothing, happiness-producing drug called soma" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World
11-13-2020, 10:14 PM (This post was last modified: 11-13-2020, 10:17 PM by BIAD.)
It always makes me laugh when ideas such as the 'Own Nothing' credos are suggested, because the
last couple of naive generations see this kind of idea as virtuous.
The British film industry even took the piss out of this socialism principle in the movie 'I'm Alright Jack'!
Peter Sellars played Fred Kite, a militant Union shop-steward who sports a Hitler moustache and sees
businessmen as an oppressive force. Kite is a devout Socialist and one of his quotes cracks me up during
a scene where he's chatting.
"... Ahhh, Russia. All them corn fields and ballet in the evening."
(11-13-2020, 10:30 AM)drussell41 Wrote: Why does "Own Nothing, Be Happy" remind me of "Arbeit Macht Frei"? Because it's going to be that kind of control? Because it's that much of a BS lie? All that I know is that at some level, it is the same animal.
(11-13-2020, 07:19 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: If we end up having to sell after ME working my a$$ off to get it paid, you are going to see the REAL bitch in me come out.
Good. Justified.
But let's hope that it does not have to be like that...
Look, it is NOT over. Well, you already know that. I mean the Presidential game... To be honest, i feel like quitting, regarding this issue. Just say "Fuck it, POTUS is Biden now, and i can't do anything about it"
I apologize for off-topic posting, but it seems like it is not frowned upon so bad here, when compared to some other sites. So i just wanted to say this to @"Mystic Wanderer"
"Man is fully responsible for his nature and his choices."
(11-13-2020, 10:30 AM)drussell41 Wrote: Why does "Own Nothing, Be Happy" remind me of "Arbeit Macht Frei"? Because it's going to be that kind of control? Because it's that much of a BS lie? All that I know is that at some level, it is the same animal.
If I don't own anything, then I don't even own my labor. There is a word for that, hmmm...
Well, it's right in line with a lot of other maneuvering right now supported by the waffleing cheerleaders (i.e. firing squad wall warmers). It's not really "Defund the Police" it's just that we will have reform. Then why not call it that? We have different words in the language to describe different situation. Pick the right words... unless you already have? We'll just have private entities who "look after" the citizens security.
Making lists of dissenters. Ensuring they cannot find a job. Using private social media companies to do the censorship for you.
Nope. Looking at this through a historical lens, I cannot see where this could all go wrong.
There are people who thought they owned their 3rd generational homes in China until the government came in a bulldozed their homes to the ground to make way for some government planned apartments that might be finished in a couple of years. In the meantime no house no household goods everything gone. Own nothing and be happy. Agenda 21/30 marches on to the sounds of coming misery.
(11-15-2020, 11:46 AM)727Sky Wrote: There are people who thought they owned their 3rd generational homes in China until the government came in a bulldozed their homes to the ground to make way for some government planned apartments that might be finished in a couple of years. In the meantime no house no household goods everything gone. Own nothing and be happy. Agenda 21/30 marches on to the sounds of coming misery.
You mean they didn't even give them a chance to remove "their" stuff before bulldozing?
11-15-2020, 04:10 PM (This post was last modified: 11-15-2020, 04:44 PM by guohua.)
(11-15-2020, 03:48 PM)drussell41 Wrote:
(11-15-2020, 11:46 AM)727Sky Wrote: There are people who thought they owned their 3rd generational homes in China until the government came in a bulldozed their homes to the ground to make way for some government planned apartments that might be finished in a couple of years. In the meantime no house no household goods everything gone. Own nothing and be happy. Agenda 21/30 marches on to the sounds of coming misery.
You mean they didn't even give them a chance to remove "their" stuff before bulldozing?
These guys really are assholes to the tenth.
Yes, that is China.
You are the Property of the CCP.
Here you go, this is how Human China has become sense the late 90's
Yes, death vans, but don't you think that is More Human than just dragging then into the Public Park or Field and executing them in front of their family and neighbors?
That is the way it was done before the 90's.
Edited to add:
You would be Extremely Stupid to want YOUR Country to be anything like China. JMHO
(11-15-2020, 11:46 AM)727Sky Wrote: There are people who thought they owned their 3rd generational homes in China until the government came in a bulldozed their homes to the ground to make way for some government planned apartments that might be finished in a couple of years. In the meantime no house no household goods everything gone. Own nothing and be happy. Agenda 21/30 marches on to the sounds of coming misery.
You mean they didn't even give them a chance to remove "their" stuff before bulldozing?
These guys really are assholes to the tenth.
Yes, that is China.
You are the Property of the CCP.
Here you go, this is how Human China has become sense the late 90's
Yes, death vans, but don't you think that is More Human than just dragging then into the Public Park or Field and executing them in front of their family and neighbors?
That is the way it was done before the 90's.
Edited to add:
You would be Extremely Stupid to want YOUR Country to be anything like China. JMHO