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[France] The Police Station Attack.
#1
It's a sad-state of affairs when criminal gangs decide the law enforcement is just an obstacle and
should be threatened! At least, that's how the media are spinning it. It's drug-trafficking and ethnicity
and migration shouldn't be discussed.

Nobody arrested...?  Now where have I heard that before?!


Quote:Mob armed with metal bars uses fireworks to attack Paris police station

'A group of about 40 people try to storm the building in Champigny-sur-Marne, but no one is arrested and no officers are injured.
A mob armed with metal bars and fireworks has attacked a police station in the suburbs of Paris, officials in the city have said.



An unidentified group of about 40 people, whose motive was not clear, tried to storm the police station in Champigny-sur-Marne,
about nine miles (15km) southeast of central Paris. The mob tried, but failed, to force its way into the building on Saturday night
in the third attack on the station in three years.
Officials said they "weren't far off from a disaster".

Video posted to social media by police showed a barrage of fireworks going off in the direction of the station, located in the area
of a housing estate known for drug trafficking. The Paris police headquarters said on Twitter. "Violent attack last night on the police
station of Champigny with mortar shots and various projectiles. No police officer was injured."

Nobody was arrested but pictures showed smashed windows at the police station and damaged cars.
The area is deemed by authorities as a high-priority district for order to be restored.

Champigny Mayor Laurent Jeanne told BFM: "It was an organised attack of about 40 people who wanted to do battle.
For a few days it has been tense with people who have a certain willingness to do battle with the police.
"It's anti-police sentiment. We weren't far off from a disaster."

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The scene after the bad people went away. Thank heavens they're all wearing masks.

It's the latest in a number of public order safety incidents in France since the end of the COVID-19 lockdown in mid-May.
Ministers and law enforcement are on heightened alert for increases in crime amid the economic fallout from the coronavirus pandemic.

President Emmanuel Macron, who faces a presidential election in less than two years, has been criticised by opponents over crime
and public safety since he took power in 2017. Opinion polls show that the public see his government as weakest on those issues...'
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#2
(10-12-2020, 11:50 AM)BIAD Wrote:
Quote:Mob armed with metal bars uses fireworks to attack Paris police station

'A group of about 40 people try to storm the building in Champigny-sur-Marne, but no one is arrested and no officers are injured.
A mob armed with metal bars and fireworks has attacked a police station in the suburbs of Paris, officials in the city have said.

An unidentified group of about 40 people, whose motive was not clear, tried to storm the police station in Champigny-sur-Marne,
about nine miles (15km) southeast of central Paris. The mob tried, but failed, to force its way into the building on Saturday night in the third attack on the station in three years.
Officials said they "weren't far off from a disaster".

Video posted to social media by police showed a barrage of fireworks going off in the direction of the station, located in the area
of a housing estate known for drug trafficking. The Paris police headquarters said on Twitter. "Violent attack last night on the police station of Champigny with mortar shots and various projectiles. No police officer were injured."
This seems to be a continuation of a preexisting problem. 

As much as I hate the violence and destruction, I hate the manipulation by the media more. They will use any means necessary to keep us angry, confused, and afraid. 

This was already a crime infested area with feelings of consternation between the residents and the police.This has happened every year over a three year span. Obviously neither side has come any closer to resolving the issues, painting it with the COVID lockdown brush, does little to fix the issue, in fact, it is nothing but fuel to the fodder. 

Another manipulation that is seen very frequently and is the new buzz word to instill fear, anger, and hate, is the "suburbs". Everything is suddenly happening in the "suburbs ". Knowing that that is going to pull up in people's minds, images of their own homes and communities. Yet when you research the areas they label as "suburbs", you will see no such comparisons.

If they didn't want to say Ghetto or inner city,  metropolitan would have been a more honest descriptor. But metropolitan doesn't generate the same level of anger, fear, and hate they want to instill in the hearts of the masses.
I gave up on TV and the news because I got so sick of being pissed on.

 The media got wise when so many lost trust, and moved to the internet on our quest for truth and detoured right into the sewer.

They have no boundaries on the internet. They can print, post, and publish any kind of lie, manipulation, or propaganda they want with impunity. We choose what we view, we choose what we believe, we choose what we share. So they can't be blamed for being what they are. We can't blame the snake for biting us when we enter its den.

Sorry for going a bit off topic, but that "suburb" business just pushed my buttons.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#3
(10-12-2020, 02:14 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(10-12-2020, 11:50 AM)BIAD Wrote:
Quote:Mob armed with metal bars uses fireworks to attack Paris police station

'A group of about 40 people try to storm the building in Champigny-sur-Marne, but no one is arrested and no officers are injured.
A mob armed with metal bars and fireworks has attacked a police station in the suburbs of Paris, officials in the city have said.

An unidentified group of about 40 people, whose motive was not clear, tried to storm the police station in Champigny-sur-Marne,
about nine miles (15km) southeast of central Paris. The mob tried, but failed, to force its way into the building on Saturday night in the third attack on the station in three years.
Officials said they "weren't far off from a disaster".

Video posted to social media by police showed a barrage of fireworks going off in the direction of the station, located in the area
of a housing estate known for drug trafficking. The Paris police headquarters said on Twitter. "Violent attack last night on the police station of Champigny with mortar shots and various projectiles. No police officer were injured."
This seems to be a continuation of a preexisting problem. 

As much as I hate the violence and destruction, I hate the manipulation by the media more. They will use any means necessary to keep us angry, confused, and afraid. 

This was already a crime infested area with feelings of consternation between the residents and the police.This has happened every year over a three year span. Obviously neither side has come any closer to resolving the issues, painting it with the COVID lockdown brush, does little to fix the issue, in fact, it is nothing but fuel to the fodder. 

Another manipulation that is seen very frequently and is the new buzz word to instill fear, anger, and hate, is the "suburbs". Everything is suddenly happening in the "suburbs ". Knowing that that is going to pull up in people's minds, images of their own homes and communities. Yet when you research the areas they label as "suburbs", you will see no such comparisons.

If they didn't want to say Ghetto or inner city,  metropolitan would have been a more honest descriptor. But metropolitan doesn't generate the same level of anger, fear, and hate they want to instill in the hearts of the masses.
I gave up on TV and the news because I got so sick of being pissed on.

 The media got wise when so many lost trust, and moved to the internet on our quest for truth and detoured right into the sewer.

They have no boundaries on the internet. They can print, post, and publish any kind of lie, manipulation, or propaganda they want with impunity. We choose what we view, we choose what we believe, we choose what we share. So they can't be blamed for being what they are. We can't blame the snake for biting us when we enter its den.

Sorry for going a bit off topic, but that "suburb" business just pushed my buttons.
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#4
I have worked in areas so bad that I had to park a ways away and be escorted in by my patients. Until I got to be known as the nurse, and was set up by the community with community escorts.

Working in these environments taught me that the majority of the people living in them are victims. Victims of circumstance, victims of poverty,  victims of choices. Victims of the deadly parasites that live off them.

It use to puzzle me why the majority never rises up against the enemy within, until I realized that this is the backstory for almost every story that has ever been written. Tale after tale of hero and knights in shinning armor. We have been conditioned to accept helplessness and waiting for a savior.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#5
(10-12-2020, 04:12 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: I have worked in areas so bad that I had to park a ways away and be escorted in by my patients. Until I got to be known as the nurse, and was set up by the community with community escorts.

Working in these environments taught me that the majority of the people living in them are victims. Victims of circumstance, victims of poverty,  victims of choices. Victims of the deadly parasites that live off them.

It use to puzzle me why the majority never rises up against the enemy within, until I realized that this is the backstory for almost every story that has ever been written. Tale after tale of hero and knights in shinning armor. We have been conditioned to accept helplessness and waiting for a savior.

So true, and the reason why we wait for the savior ?
How long would governments last if people stood up and demanded that things change. Fear and fear of fear is a wonderful way of controlling people.
#6
@"NightskyeB4Dawn" 

FWIW, I don't think they're trying to push buttons with "suburb".

The word in French is banlieu.  The situation in Paris is this --

The city center is kept somewhat orderly.  Of course, neighborhoods where the rich and well-connected live are the best protected.  What makes Paris so geographically large is that it is surrounded by banlieu's.  I don't have a crime map for all of the banlieu's but know that some of them arose as housing projects* for other-than-French ethnic groups after World War II.  And those banlieu's (suburbs) have been plagued with crime for years.

Even so, outright attacks on police stations is a relatively new development.

* Detail note.  Where these projects were built were typically sleepy towns on the outskirts of Paris before World War II.  The non-French parts of the population increased following World War I, but really took off in the 1960s when France abandoned attempts at control of Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia.

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#7
(10-12-2020, 06:06 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: @"NightskyeB4Dawn" 

FWIW, I don't think they're trying to push buttons with "suburb".

The word in French is banlieu.  The situation in Paris is this --

The city center is kept somewhat orderly.  Of course, neighborhoods where the rich and well-connected live are the best protected.  What makes Paris so geographically large is that it is surrounded by banlieu's.  I don't have a crime map for all of the banlieu's but know that some of them arose as housing projects* for other-than-French ethnic groups after World War II.  And those banlieu's (suburbs) have been plagued with crime for years.

Even so, outright attacks on police stations is a relatively new development.

* Detail note.  Where these projects were built were typically sleepy towns on the outskirts of Paris before World War II.  The non-French parts of the population increased following World War I, but really took off in the 1960s when France abandoned attempts at control of Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia.

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The word suburb, is being used to describe almost every area where demonstrations or rioting is taking place. 

The image most people have of a suburb is a large area of single family homes, and gated communities.

When you use the term the "projects" or inner city housing, a whole other image comes to mind for most Americans. The media is using the former as a description of the later, with purpose.

In the French article it may have been just a translation word choice, but I believe they were following the American example. It is all about instilling fear and doubt.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#8
@"NightskyeB4Dawn" 

I understand what you mean by the use of "suburb" in the media, but I think the context in terms of generating angst is more an American then European thing.

Partially, as you indicate, this is a translation issue, but it is also confused by differing ways of organizing living space within societies.

So, this article was in a British publication that was probably translated from a French source.

Suburb is a fine translation of banlieu, but it only applies so far as one understands a 'burb to be a physical neighborhood of a city that is situated on the outskirts of the city.

In the USA, as I understand the situation, two waves of "emigration" occurred from the cities to the suburbs.  First, after 1945, the wealth of the nation rose and a lot of people took advantage of the mobility offered by cars and decent roads to move out of the cities and build homes on plots of land -- the rise of modern suburbia in the USA.

This was followed by another wave in the 1960s -- the so-called "white flight" from the cities which were then perceived as going downhill in terms of crime and disorder.  This one is key in terms of generating angst -- with crime occurring in American suburbs, it makes one wonder, "are they as relatively safe as they once were" ?  The media etc. know the 'burbs are the refuge of the middle class, and I can easily imagine them grinding that axe as a psychological warfare measure to generate fear and division.

But in Europe, the cities never really experienced so many problems with crime, and many of the residents remained in the cities rather than trying to obtain a home in areas surrounding the cities.  One aspect is that in Europe, owning and operating a car is really expensive -- road tax, driver's school, insurance, and the cost of gasoline are significantly higher than many places in the USA.  Thus, living away from the city means either that one has the cash available to support having a car, or one's mobility is bounded by the schedules of trains and buses -- a crap shoot, since some areas are well serviced while others have only scant service.

In the last 2 to 3 decades, there has been more movement to the periphery of cities.  But not so much because of crime, but because the costs of renting and owning property in the cities have gone up quite a bit.

Now, places like London, Paris, etc. are in their own class.  As large cities, there has emerged a permanent problem with violent crime, particularly in certain neighborhoods where the social housing projects have concentrated migrants.  And those banlieu's in Paris are well known in France (and Europe, generally) as places to avoid.  Nothing to see there besides plain-jane urban structures in any case.

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#9
(10-13-2020, 08:15 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: @"NightskyeB4Dawn" 

I understand what you mean by the use of "suburb" in the media, but I think the context in terms of generating
angst is more an American then European thing.

Partially, as you indicate, this is a translation issue, but it is also confused by differing ways of organizing living space within societies.
So, this article was in a British publication that probably translated from a French source...

It's also word-smithing in the media, a skill that gives but mainly takes.
Negativity is fine in some narratives today, it implies the current people in power are struggling to do their jobs
and that change should be considered. Change brings concerns from the public and it's assumed they'll look to
the media for answers.

This brings revenue to media outlets and secures the believed link between the masses and Governments.
The President of the United States went around that link by using social media, the MSM hate that as it
jeopardises their power-hold on the public.

I agree that the use of the word 'suburb' gives a certain impression that differs from the word 'projects'
and if we here at Rogue Nation can see it, so can those in the media game. Even though a local piece below from
where I used to work shows incompetence, the Journalists do actually check the underlying message in their articles.

Quote:Pervert caught with 27,000 indecent images used parents' laptop to download them.

'XXXXXXX stayed at his elderly parents' home to use their laptop to download the 'filth' onto a memory
stick before transferring the images to his own laptop when he returned home.

The 55-year-old was arrested after police carried out a routine inspection of his electrical devices after he went
missing from his registered address, XXXX Crown Court heard.

Phillip Morley, prosecuting, said the convicted sex offender had stayed at his parents' XXXXXX home for
sex or seven days without notifying the authorities of his whereabouts.

Harrison told officers they would find indecent images on his laptop and on a number of memory sticks...'

See? The readers picked it up and commented on the error, but an hour later, the mistake is still there.
But it also hints at the mind-set of the Journalist and how words are used to feed the public with tantalising
fodder and misdirecting information.

You say 'Projects' in regard of housing and many may think of poor households. Violence and poverty indicates
mismanaging of a group of people's lifestyles and organised crime. With the numerous articles purveying the
migrant settlings in France, this could lead the reader to believe migrants are causing the violence and attacks.
And we can't have that, can we?!

Journalism demands fear for ratings and income, but these media outlets have owners who inhabit some political
arenas, so word-smithing assists in walking that delicate line.
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