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#21
(12-22-2020, 07:17 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: @"Ninurta" 

I was in Europe when Germany reunited, and later, when the last Soviet troops went home.

There was a palpable feeling of hope all over Europe.  People felt like the page was finally turning on the brutal conflicts of the 20th century.

30 years later, here we are.  The EU operates with selective repression and enforces its rules equally selectively.  The economies of eastern Europe are kept in a state of perpetual exploitation so that a very few in the western half of the continent can grow obscenely wealthy.  Rich nations like Germany shirk their NATO obligations while cutting deals with Russia that are disadvantageous to both NATO and other members of the EU.

And so many people were shocked that Trump spoke bluntly to the Europeans about their financial, trade, and defense practices.

In 30 short years (less actually) the European leadership pissed away an opportunity that very few nations ever experience.  A colossal failure, not only of leadership, but of vision as well.

@"Wallfire" has pointed out there are dark clouds gathering on Europe's horizons.  The disconnect from reality is too great here, and reality will come calling.

Cheers

I remember  those days. Even here, we had such high hopes that the tide had turned. But, as you so rightly point out, here we are just 30 short years later. I held off having kids for years. Life was too uncertain, the world not a place I was sure I wanted to bring children into. But then, the world appeared to change, and I thought there was a good chance for a better future for them. But, here we are. My son will be 25 in April, and I shudder to think of the world I've left him, and my grand children.

There is always, it seems, some sons of bitches hiding in the shadows just waiting to seize power and create Hell on Earth.

The price of Freedom is eternal vigilance, even through the good times, to watch for those sons of bitches to jump out and shake the foundations of Earth when, it appears, you least expect it.

We took our eyes off the ball, just for a minute, and here we are.




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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#22
(12-22-2020, 09:05 AM)Ninurta Wrote: I remember  those days. Even here, we had such high hopes that the tide had turned. But, as you so rightly point out, here we are just 30 short years later. I held off having kids for years. Life was too uncertain, the world not a place I was sure I wanted to bring children into. But then, the world appeared to change, and I thought there was a good chance for a better future for them. But, here we are. My son will be 25 in April, and I shudder to think of the world I've left him, and my grand children.

There is always, it seems, some sons of bitches hiding in the shadows just waiting to seize power and create Hell on Earth.

The price of Freedom is eternal vigilance, even through the good times, to watch for those sons of bitches to jump out and shake the foundations of Earth when, it appears, you least expect it.

We took our eyes off the ball, just for a minute, and here we are.

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Except, it was for more than a minute. Time flies when you think you are having fun, or when you think it won't matter.

In some cases we saw it happening, we just didn't think it would ever affect us.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#23
(12-22-2020, 01:42 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: Except, it was for more than a minute. Time flies when you think you are having fun, or when you think it won't matter.

In some cases we saw it happening, we just didn't think it would ever affect us.

Yeah, I think it was about a quarter of the way through Bush Jr's administration that I looked around and said "waitadamnminute! This ain't right!" and started fighting again... but by then it appears to have been too late. The Fix was already in.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#24
I have not seen anyone, and i mean NOT A SINGLE PERSON on this site, supporting EU.

Do those people even exist? Or is that a media narrative, in order to maintain this fucked up union?
"Man is fully responsible for his nature and his choices."

-Jean-Paul Sartre
#25
(12-22-2020, 06:37 PM)Finspiracy Wrote: I have not seen anyone, and i mean NOT A SINGLE PERSON on this site, supporting EU.

Do those people even exist? Or is that a media narrative, in order to maintain this fucked up union?

I believe we do have one member, at least, who is in favor of the EU. he has argued pretty stridently and eloquently in favor of it at times, at least.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#26
(12-22-2020, 06:43 PM)Ninurta Wrote:
(12-22-2020, 06:37 PM)Finspiracy Wrote: I have not seen anyone, and i mean NOT A SINGLE PERSON on this site, supporting EU.

Do those people even exist? Or is that a media narrative, in order to maintain this fucked up union?

I believe we do have one member, at least, who is in favor of the EU. he has argued pretty stridently and eloquently in favor of it at times, at least.

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Okay. Here is for that person. From 5 years ago. Fact check all you want.

"Fit for an emperor, EU diplomats plan £2 million dinner service
Crystal whisky glasses, silver candelabras and fine china decorated with gold EU flags to form glittering dinner service for Brussels' ascendant diplomatic corps"

Cool mindset, motherfuckers. "We rule this motherfucking shit, you think we are using the same kitchenware as you slaves, huh?"
"Man is fully responsible for his nature and his choices."

-Jean-Paul Sartre
#27
Here is a fine example of both EU propaganda, and the peddling of it by German media.  From the English language site of Deutsche Welle, dated today.

Quote:Rural EU citizens more anti-European and anti-democratic — study

The EU Commission has found that people living in rural areas are less likely to support democracy and EU solidarity. They are also more likely to suffer a shortage of services such as medical care and public transport.

https://www.dw.com/en/rural-eu-citizens-...a-56053700

First, note the headline.  "EU citizens more anti-European".  Huh?  What, are they anti-themselves?  NO.  What this misleading verbiage means is that rural Europeans are more likely to be against the --> EU <--, not against Europe.  Conflation of two very different things, something the EU loves to do.

Then, this notion is extended to also suppose these rural people supposedly are anti-democratic as well.  OH.  Let me guess -- maybe they believe in the concept of their countries more than they believe in globalist bilge ... thus they are labeled "anti-democratic" ... when in fact, the high Eurocrats are APPOINTED, not ELECTED ... something that is genuinely anti-democratic and practically authoritarian.

And so the drumbeat of aggression against those opposed to the EU goes on.

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#28
(12-26-2020, 05:20 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Here is a fine example of both EU propaganda, and the peddling of it by German media.  From the English language site of Deutsche Welle, dated today.

Quote:Rural EU citizens more anti-European and anti-democratic — study

The EU Commission has found that people living in rural areas are less likely to support democracy and EU solidarity. They are also more likely to suffer a shortage of services such as medical care and public transport.

https://www.dw.com/en/rural-eu-citizens-...a-56053700

First, note the headline.  "EU citizens more anti-European".  Huh?  What, are they anti-themselves?  NO.  What this misleading verbiage means is that rural Europeans are more likely to be against the --> EU <--, not against Europe.  Conflation of two very different things, something the EU loves to do.

Then, this notion is extended to also suppose these rural people supposedly are anti-democratic as well.  OH.  Let me guess -- maybe they believe in the concept of their countries more than they believe in globalist bilge ... thus they are labeled "anti-democratic" ... when in fact, the high Eurocrats are APPOINTED, not ELECTED ... something that is genuinely anti-democratic and practically authoritarian.

And so the drumbeat of aggression against those opposed to the EU goes on.

Cheers

Eh, I'm pretty anti-democratic, too. I can see no logical reason that I should vote to give someone else power over my life, nor can I see any good reason I should expect them to pay for my stuff.

Then again, I'm also one of those troublesome independently-minded rural folks, so I suppose it fits...

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#29
@"Ninurta" 

In the case of EU farmers, it could also have something to do with German and French farmers getting generous subsidies while farmers in other EU countries tend to get the shaft.

Meanwhile, the price of food in stores continues to rise while farming land remains idle per "planning" of the Union.  The Union has a lot of different chiefs and no one to keep them working in such a way that they are not undermining each other.

Part of it is basic psychology.  Rural dwellers have to have a reasonable grasp of reality to survive while some of the policy coming out of Brussels is fantasy rooted in ideology.  I don't wonder that the people in the countryside are not impressed by what they believe is unrealistic.

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#30
EU (Brussels) and Poland square off over who gets to control national laws.

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#31
So, it is shaping up to be another cold winter in Europe, and apparently, EU countries don't have enough natural gas in reserve to meet what will be the demands for heating places of work and residence.

Surprise, the Russians are in no hurry to help.  Merkel, the old communist from the DDR, believed she could rely on the Russians and that their gas supply would not be used as a tool to pressure the EU.  That Germany practically worshipped her as a chancellor for SIXTEEN years is ample evidence that the German public are still children in the sense of understanding politics.

Germany has pursued green policies to shut down their own coal production (while ramping up coal imports ...) and THEN pressured other countries to shut down their coal production as well.  Unfortunately, renewables won't heat Europe north of the Alps during winter.  Gas or coal are pretty much the two options.  The EU has acted as a cat's paw for German policies and harassed other EU countries to meet the "green" goals.

Add on two years of failed COVID restrictions (now the German state of Hesse has passed a law allowing grocery stores to decide if they allow unvaccinated customers to shop), economies bogging down, and steep inflation all over Europe.

The EU has remained so tone deaf post-Brexit as to beggar belief.  The Eurocrats, the so-called 'experts', and spineless, corrupt politicians have brought the EU to the brink of utter failure.  What surprises me is that the USA and the EU are practically mirrors of each other at the moment.

Cheers
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