May She Always Be Free

[projectvxn]

I'm not interested in fighting over political tropes. I am interested in discussing ideas and concepts that are central to the preservation of liberty. 

These ideas and concepts are far larger than any person or office held in the Land. If taken to their maximal extent and allowed to be realized they outlast all men whose faces are carved in stone or whose portraits line the halls of our most hallowed political institutions. 

These ideas will outlast the stones of the White House. Mt. Rushmore will crumble. All of our statues will oxidize. But those ideas will always be there. 

The founders did not give us a 'Republic if we could keep it'. They gave us an idea if we could nurture it.

Happy 4th of July. Long Live the United States of America. May she always be free.

[hounddoghowlie]

I'm not interested in fighting over political tropes. I am interested in discussing ideas and concepts that are central to the preservation of liberty. 

These ideas and concepts are far larger than any person or office held in the Land. If taken to their maximal extent and allowed to be realized they outlast all men whose faces are carved in stone or whose portraits line the halls of our most hallowed political institutions. 

These ideas will outlast the stones of the White House. Mt. Rushmore will crumble. All of our statues will oxidize. But those ideas will always be there. 

The founders did not give us a 'Republic if we could keep it'. They gave us an idea if we could nurture it.

Happy 4th of July. Long Live the United States of America. May she always be free.

here i thought that maybe reading these ideas would benefit this thread. just the first two paragraphs. not trying to step on any toes

In Congress, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

it's already lasted longer than anyone thought it would, and is the oldest current national government in the world..

[Mystic Wanderer]

I'm not interested in fighting over political tropes. I am interested in discussing ideas and concepts that are central to the preservation of liberty. 

These ideas and concepts are far larger than any person or office held in the Land. If taken to their maximal extent and allowed to be realized they outlast all men whose faces are carved in stone or whose portraits line the halls of our most hallowed political institutions. 

These ideas will outlast the stones of the White House. Mt. Rushmore will crumble. All of our statues will oxidize. But those ideas will always be there. 

The founders did not give us a 'Republic if we could keep it'. They gave us an idea if we could nurture it.

Happy 4th of July. Long Live the United States of America. May she always be free.

here i thought that maybe reading these ideas would benefit this thread. just the first two paragraphs. not trying to step on any toes

In Congress, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

it's already lasted longer than anyone thought it would, and is  the oldest current national government in the world..

I can't think of any ideas that would be better than our Declaration of Independence. 

Just call me a patriot.    Happy 4th of July America!  

[beez]

I'm not interested in fighting over political tropes. I am interested in discussing ideas and concepts that are central to the preservation of liberty. 

These ideas and concepts are far larger than any person or office held in the Land. If taken to their maximal extent and allowed to be realized they outlast all men whose faces are carved in stone or whose portraits line the halls of our most hallowed political institutions. 

These ideas will outlast the stones of the White House. Mt. Rushmore will crumble. All of our statues will oxidize. But those ideas will always be there. 

The founders did not give us a 'Republic if we could keep it'. They gave us an idea if we could nurture it.

Happy 4th of July. Long Live the United States of America. May she always be free.

I don't feel very free today.

My ability to self-determine my own safety and security has been infringed upon by the state.

*grumbles*

I'll be cooking on the grill for my boys and my bride, but I'm not feeling very "American-ish" today.

[guohua]

I'm not interested in fighting over political tropes. I am interested in discussing ideas and concepts that are central to the preservation of liberty. 

These ideas and concepts are far larger than any person or office held in the Land. If taken to their maximal extent and allowed to be realized they outlast all men whose faces are carved in stone or whose portraits line the halls of our most hallowed political institutions. 

These ideas will outlast the stones of the White House. Mt. Rushmore will crumble. All of our statues will oxidize. But those ideas will always be there. 

The founders did not give us a 'Republic if we could keep it'. They gave us an idea if we could nurture it.

Happy 4th of July. Long Live the United States of America. May she always be free.

In my view, the ideology of our founding Fathers hs to be taught once again in our class rooms.  

I do blame much of the current problems on our Education System.
The Values of our Founding Father are no longer taught, nor are their Ideas.

JMHO

[projectvxn]

I'm not interested in fighting over political tropes. I am interested in discussing ideas and concepts that are central to the preservation of liberty. 

These ideas and concepts are far larger than any person or office held in the Land. If taken to their maximal extent and allowed to be realized they outlast all men whose faces are carved in stone or whose portraits line the halls of our most hallowed political institutions. 

These ideas will outlast the stones of the White House. Mt. Rushmore will crumble. All of our statues will oxidize. But those ideas will always be there. 

The founders did not give us a 'Republic if we could keep it'. They gave us an idea if we could nurture it.

Happy 4th of July. Long Live the United States of America. May she always be free.

In my view, the ideology of our founding Fathers hs to be taught once again in our class rooms.  

I do blame much of the current problems on our Education System.
The Values of our Founding Father are no longer taught, nor are their Ideas.

JMHO

I home school my kids. My wife and I take a very active role in their education. This is the only way.

[Antisthenes]

I'm not interested in fighting over political tropes. I am interested in discussing ideas and concepts that are central to the preservation of liberty. 

These ideas and concepts are far larger than any person or office held in the Land. If taken to their maximal extent and allowed to be realized they outlast all men whose faces are carved in stone or whose portraits line the halls of our most hallowed political institutions. 

These ideas will outlast the stones of the White House. Mt. Rushmore will crumble. All of our statues will oxidize. But those ideas will always be there. 

The founders did not give us a 'Republic if we could keep it'. They gave us an idea if we could nurture it.

Happy 4th of July. Long Live the United States of America. May she always be free.

In my view, the ideology of our founding Fathers hs to be taught once again in our class rooms.  

I do blame much of the current problems on our Education System.
The Values of our Founding Father are no longer taught, nor are their Ideas.

JMHO

I home school my kids. My wife and I take a very active role in their education. This is the only way.

Unfortunately, if you want a literate adult at the end of the day, this may be the only way. If anything is going to kill this Country, it will be ignorance and illiteracy

[Snarl]

I don't feel very free today.

My ability to self-determine my own safety and security has been infringed upon by the state.

*grumbles*

I'll be cooking on the grill for my boys and my bride, but I'm not feeling very "American-ish" today.

Bummer.
Have a beer with me.

[beez]

I don't feel very free today.

My ability to self-determine my own safety and security has been infringed upon by the state.

*grumbles*

I'll be cooking on the grill for my boys and my bride, but I'm not feeling very "American-ish" today.

Bummer.
Have a beer with me.

Always!

Brother!

[Lumenari]

In my view, the ideology of our founding Fathers hs to be taught once again in our class rooms.  

I do blame much of the current problems on our Education System.
The Values of our Founding Father are no longer taught, nor are their Ideas.

JMHO

Jimmy Carter had a pretty big hand in that with the DoED Organization Act.

Now our government is spending an estimated $100 Billion dollars a year making sure that they are getting EXACTLY what they are paying for.

A citizenry that is smart enough to fix the machines and pull the levers to make them work, but not smart enough to question why they are chained to them.

I honestly think the internet screwed up their 100 year plan pretty good though.

Now they are running to the finish line naked with their hair on fire HOPING they will get there.

I am actually optimistic on what the next decade will hold for America.

All I am seeing in the really real world is more and more and more pushback on the MSM's slant and Democrats leaving the party in droves.

To the OP:

You can kill the messenger, you can kill the soldier... but you can NEVER kill the idea of Freedom once it is out in the public arena.

See.. all of human history.

[Lumenari]

I don't feel very free today.

My ability to self-determine my own safety and security has been infringed upon by the state.

*grumbles*

I'll be cooking on the grill for my boys and my bride, but I'm not feeling very "American-ish" today.

If it makes you feel any better, I told one of the guys here that he needs to shape a few of the tannerite toys we have downrange to look like the Easter bunny.

He looked at me like I might be a little crazy.

He's right!

Let's hope your next 0704 will have America looking not so bleak.

Until then Brother keep up the good fight and I will have a few tonight for you.

[727Sky]

I'm not interested in fighting over political tropes. I am interested in discussing ideas and concepts that are central to the preservation of liberty. 

These ideas and concepts are far larger than any person or office held in the Land. If taken to their maximal extent and allowed to be realized they outlast all men whose faces are carved in stone or whose portraits line the halls of our most hallowed political institutions. 

These ideas will outlast the stones of the White House. Mt. Rushmore will crumble. All of our statues will oxidize. But those ideas will always be there. 

The founders did not give us a 'Republic if we could keep it'. They gave us an idea if we could nurture it.

Happy 4th of July. Long Live the United States of America. May she always be free.

I don't feel very free today.

My ability to self-determine my own safety and security has been infringed upon by the state.

*grumbles*

I'll be cooking on the grill for my boys and my bride, but I'm not feeling very "American-ish" today.

Might be your luck a Greenie Weenie will call the cops on you for polluting their air

[727Sky]

https://www.rt.com/usa/493727-us-civil-war-2021/

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Leader of ultra-right militia The Three Percenters General BloodAgent predicts end of America by 2021 and warns of new civil war
4 Jul, 2020 13:13 / Updated 8 hours ago
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By Chris Sweeney, author who has written for various UK magazines and newspapers, including The Times, The Sun and The Daily Record. Follow him on Twitter @Writes_Sweeney
As the US election looms, the gun-toting III% Security Force stands ready for an anti-Democrat uprising. The group has been accused of neo-Nazism, but one of its leaders tells RT they merely protect the will of the people.
“There is a coup taking place right now, there’s a collective effort to overthrow our way of life as we know it – people are starting to realize it’s not a conspiracy theory.
“If we don’t come together as one, we’ll be living in a post-American world by 2021.”
That’s the view of Chris Hill, commanding officer of the III% Security Force’s Georgia branch. The Three Percenters are a constitutional militia with chapters across the US, their name originating from claims that only three percent of colonists took up arms against Britain in the American revolution.
According to them, over the last few months membership has rocketed by 150 percent, with 50 to 100 applicants per day – spurred on by developments like Minneapolis City’s pledge to dismantle their police department and Joe Biden’s promise to stand up for Muslim communities if he enters the White House. 
Hill, also known as General BloodAgent, said: “It’s like our Founding Fathers stated, we believe we should come together, to lend our arms and council whenever a crisis arises.
“We advocate and defend our goals and beliefs with regards to our way of life, our constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.”
The group, whose members are rarely seen in the public eye without military fatigues and firearms, sees its role as protecting the people, allowing them to rise up and take control. They spend a fifth of their time on political activism and the rest doing primitive survivalism, military infantry training, hunting, rescue and first aid.

They believe they have been made deliberately obsolete in modern America, a feeling only exacerbated by the national Defund the Police movement and the Democratic Party’s pledge to reform the police force.
Speaking to RT, Hill, a former marine, explained: “How do you get rid of a militia in the United States? You render them useless and over time they fade away.
“Now we’re seeing the Founding Fathers had it right, this is something we should have never let the fire burn out on. We have a short amount of time to reignite it.
“We will be whenever we need to be, wherever God sees fit. Every day we can reach out to another American citizen and say, ‘Are you in favor of communism and anarchism? We have a right to repel that.’”
Claims of neo-Nazism
The group, while evidently on the far end of the political right wing, bristle at their depiction in the mainstream media of being racist neo-Nazis, such as a New York Times article which said“their America is one where Christianity is taught in schools, abortion is illegal, and immigrants hail from Europe.” 
In one example, the GSF were accused of “terrorizing” county officials in Georgia out of a meeting to build a new mosque, and linking the place to ISIS – a charge Hill denies. 
But his group takes reports of things like Muslim community patrols forming in New York after the Christchurch shooting, as signals that attempts to introduce Sharia law are underway. 
Also on rt.com America’s streets are being patrolled by armed civilians, but could these gun-toting vigilantes really kill?  
Still, in Hill’s view, the group is pro-immigration, supports religious freedom, and would not lead with violence. The big caveats are that the immigration must be legal and the newcomers must assimilate. Like many on the American political right, he refers to undocumented migrants as an invasion.
“I am 100 percent against illegal immigration,” he explains. “The government is cast with a job and part of that is to prevent an invasion, it doesn’t specify armed or unarmed, but if 20 million people are in this country illegally, how can you look at me with a straight face and say we haven’t been invaded?
“Legal immigration is fine, as long as whatever caused you to flee, leave that shit where you came from. Learn the language, our practices, our traditions – do not try to advocate for other religious, ideological or political beliefs enforced in whatever country you came from.
“I’m not saying you have to be Christian, in America you are free to practice any religion you like. But if anyone doesn’t want to assimilate or come here legally, I’d put them in a catapult and fling them into the Gulf of Mexico.”
Death threats
Views like this, and his prominence in the movement, have made Hill a big target for some. He says he and his family regularly receive death threats, forcing him to change his phone number on occasion. He believes they come from the anti-fascist group Antifa, which US President Donald Trump wants to officially label a domestic terrorist organization for its alleged role in the recent riots and the harassment of various conservative figures and their supporters.
“I have been targeted for four or five years,” Hill says. “When I went to Virginia in January they put up a hit list and my face was there, basically I’m a target. If they know I am going to be somewhere, they put up my picture and say they’ll kill me.”

I’ve got a Smith & Wesson .40 caliber on my hip and it’s got 15 bullets in it – if anybody threatens my life, they are going to hit a few of them.

One major reason Hill feels he’s considered worthy of killing is because of his media portrayal. The influential liberal “anti-hate” group Southern Poverty Law Center has branded him and his group “anti-government,” saying he praises“neo-Nazi movements.” 
But he claims that the reporting on him is selective.
He is adamant that he cut ties with a group of men formerly in the Kansas Security Force who plotted to bomb the apartment complex of 100 Somali immigrants, and feels their actions are unfairly attached to all Three Percenters to this day. 
Reports have linked him to Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh and previous GSF member Michael Ramos, who carried out a racial beating in public in 2017. 
Hill has no love for the mainstream media: “They use freedom of press to slander and lie about me – and put my life in danger because of the lies they are spewing.”
The images of Hill’s group almost exclusively have white people in them, but he claims it’s not on purpose.
“I would love to have a wide range of skin tones in our militia, multiple races, any race is welcome. People can look at us and say, they don’t see a lot of black, Asian or Latino people. It’s not for lack of trying, the invitation is there, we need more.
“It’s laughable to say I am racist or KKK, as I turn around and look at my son, my daughter who are half-white, half-Asian – I’m married to a Vietnamese woman and our kids are mixed. That information doesn’t reach the light of day as it doesn’t fit with everybody who wants to say we’re all racist and KKK.
“My situation doesn’t ever make publication, especially from any left-wing liberal sources.”
‘Gun-grabbing’ Democrats
The III% Security Force hope to see President Trump secure a second term in November and believe the Democrats are out to take away their guns.

If Joe Biden wins, as depressing as that sounds, and Joe Biden goes after guns on a national level – if he’s coming for the guns, he can get it. And any other politician coming for the guns, they can get it too.

“They are 24 different states that are going with red-flag laws and gun bans. That’s different from a potential President Biden pushing through some national firearms ban. That is the true definition of tyranny.”
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  Americans already tried living without police, and it wasn’t called the ‘Wild West’ for nothing! Is THAT what you want?
Issues like red-flag laws which allow individuals to petition a court to remove someone else’s firearm are paramount for the III% Security Force.
“If Biden does that, Chris Hill will get up off his ass and fight against that until my last breath.”
Hill was preparing for that back in 2016, against the threat of “gun-grabbing” Hillary Clinton winning the election. Back then, Trump won and his resolve to fight back was not put to the test. Now, Joe Biden is the “gun-grabbing pedophile” (an apparent reference to Biden’s barely-appropriate shows of physical affection to women and children) that there’s “no way in hell” Hill will vote for.
If Biden does win, Hill, like many Trump supporters, is convinced that the Democrat will have “stolen” the election with the FBI’s help, through methods like hacking and mail-in ballot fraud.
Civil war is coming?
Ironically, given how extremely polarizing his views are, Hill wants his militia to be a uniting force. During our conversation, he frequently refers to “coming together.”
But at the same time, he warns that a US civil war is looming. The racial divide is there, but it’s the current-day protesters who are the racists, in Hill’s view. He sees himself and his group as defenders of freedom of speech.
He explained: “I believe Black Lives Matter is a racist slogan, I believe the organizers of that movement are Marxists, communists and they have no end-game other than taking to streets to loot or riot.
“I’ve been in Georgia my whole life other than in the military, I have not seen any Klan or Nazi rallies, there are no white supremacists in large groups. I would tell them to rent a stadium, spill your guts, say what you need to say and let’s get on with it.
“Nobody in the USA was born into slavery, I understand what happened prior to me being born, a lot of bad things happened, but I was born free just like the next white man, Asian woman or black man, all people.
“We are on an equal footing going forward, if you don’t like the situation you are in, get a bus ticket and relocate. This is not a movie, it’s real life.”
Never without a gun himself, Hill maintains his group isn’t advocating a violent uprising.
“We’ll protect the voice of the people. It can’t come from the end of a gun, if we do that then we’ve lost the moral high ground and the war before it even starts.
“Power needs to be given to the people to make changes. But there is no doubt in my mind we are stumbling towards an armed conflict inside the United States of America.”
Ultimately, in a country that’s rapidly dismantling the unseemly elements of its past, the Three Percenters want to see a return to the principles of 1776 when America formed as an independent nation.
Hill said: “We are a constitutional militia recognized by the Second Amendment. In the last 244 years, would you have said we have moved towards perfection or towards damage done and anarchy?
“We are definitely heading in the wrong direction.”

Anyone who believes in the Constitutions or in law and order or cusses the NWO is a right wing extremists.

[guohua]

Anyone who believes in the Constitutions or in law and order or cusses the NWO is a right wing extremists.

Yes @"727Sky" 
I Am!
I love the Constitution Of The United States of America, I Think Very Highly and Respect All Our FLEO' & LEO's and Military and I am very well Armed. You Know What I Think About The NWO, FUCK THEM and High Em All.

[Wallfire]

I use to think that so many Americans were gun happy red necks with nothing better to do than drink and shoot tin cans and yap about how the government was been taken over. Then a few years ago all hell was let lose in the EU with mass immigration without asking the people. It was then I started to look at the US more closely and started to understand what communism had been doing for years both in Europe and the US. Putting there own people in places of power so no matter who leads the country they have power.
Europe has woken up but still has a long way to go. Strange thing is that the USA would of been lost without the "red necks" who have and still are standing up for freedom.

[guohua]

I use to think that so many Americans were gun happy red necks with nothing better to do than drink and shoot tin cans and yap about how the government was been taken over. Then a few years ago all hell was let lose in the EU with mass immigration without asking the people. It was then I started to look at the US more closely and started to understand what communism had been doing for years both in Europe and the US. Putting there own people in places of power so no matter who leads the country they have power.
Europe has woken up but still has a long way to go. Strange thing is that the USA would of been lost without the "red necks" who have and still are standing up for freedom.

Thank You, yes the True American can be of any Race and be a Red Neck, as long as they Love Our Country and What it Originally Stood For, Liberty and Freedom For All!

Europe Lost its Freedom when they allowed the European Union (NWO) to take control.
The E-U idea is to Open Your Borders and make the E-U One Large Third World Control that the NWO/ELITES control.
JMHO

[727Sky]

It was Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC) in the timeless "The Traitor is the Plague" who said:

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.

But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.

A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

He was correct then and even more correct today

Maybe after the idiots get finished with the defund the police it will be more like this https://t.co/ieEMcklTaq

[Ninurta]

I use to think that so many Americans were gun happy red necks with nothing better to do than drink and shoot tin cans and yap about how the government was been taken over. Then a few years ago all hell was let lose in the EU with mass immigration without asking the people. It was then I started to look at the US more closely and started to understand what communism had been doing for years both in Europe and the US. Putting there own people in places of power so no matter who leads the country they have power.
Europe has woken up but still has a long way to go. Strange thing is that the USA would of been lost without the "red necks" who have and still are standing up for freedom.

That's probably why we have been put up on a pedestal in the US as Marxist Enemy Number One, and why they constantly and consistently attempt to label us with all manner of negative - and untrue - labels. It's why they make false claims as to what we believe, claim we think things we don't think, and why they put words into our mouths that we never uttered. It's why they will call us anything but a human.

They are trying to dehumanize us, because a non-human opponent is easier to squeeze the trigger on. The same thing happens to one degree or another in every war, and make no mistake, there is war brewing here - I can tell because of the prep-work being done by the Marxists here.

I don't care what they say ABOUT me, I don't care what labels they try to force on me. I know myself a damned sight better than they ever will, so I know the truth of Me... and, after all, it's me who has to face the man in the mirror every day. I can do that with a clear conscience -  clear at least of the false charges they are trying to lay at my feet.

Their feeble attempts at psyops (The "PC" mind warp attempts) have no effect on me precisely BECAUSE I don't care what they say, or what they think of me. It makes no difference, because I know the Truth. They can say whatever they want about me - if it has no taint of truth, then it has no sting.

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