(10-25-2016, 01:58 AM)Sol Wrote: I absolutely agree. I've read comments today that some people just couldn't sleep after seeing that scene or simply turned off their TV sets, abandoning the rest of the episode...and the rest of the series.
Maybe it's a bit more personal because of the attachment we felt towards this character though. Yet, the cruelty displayed was troubling indeed as it surpassed any other scene from a human being killing another human being.
It was kinda what I expected, at least partially. I had serious reservations that it was another character slated for the bat, but was shown to be wrong about that - so far. I can't really say what I think, at least not for a while, when I figure everyone interested has either seen or heard about it. I will say that I only half expected what I saw, and gore on screen is much closer to reality than gore in ink. Yeah, I've read the comics, and the departures on screen are as unexpected as the adhesions are.
Quote:And to be perfectly honest, I don't think that the first one to get the bat would have just kept kneeling there, waiting for his head to be bashed in. He would have gotten up and jumped on Negan with all he's got. But hey...the writers imagined he'd become docile and compliant all of a sudden.
I don't know either if I'll keep watching. Seems to be going downhill.
What shocked me about that was the fact he could speak at all, not that he didn't go for the throat. Neegan took the stroke quick and unexpected, and after that the character was bound to be so addled that further fighting was impossible. I was shocked he could get a coherent sentence out, and that he was coherent enough to remain defiant to the bitter end.
The next execution was closer to what it looks like in the real world, incoherent babbling and a single disconnected thought escaping as a sentence - it was surprising the character could speak at all there, too, but the sentence that finally emerged was entirely disjointed form the reality of what was occurring. "I will find you" was a thought escaping from some time in the past, jolted loose by the stroke of the bat, and by that point I think the character was no longer "there", but somewhere else in what was left of the mind rattling around in that brain.
The flashes or flashbacks of the other deaths that did not actually happen disconcerted me. I thought "Dayum - who's gonna be left to act in the show?", It was a while before I realized that Rick was not remembering, he was instead projecting a likely outcome if he didn't get with the program.
My son was more traumatized by Rick's apparent breaking than he was by the gore fest. That's probably my fault, because I have always stressed to him that there are far worse things that can happen to a man than just dying, and there are real monsters in the real world that don't hide under the bed or in your closet, but smile at you when they come. Neegan didn't surprise him, but Rick apparently breaking did. I had to kind of talk him down and get him to understand that Rick NEEDS Neegan to think he broke him, because of what comes next. Just like Neegan smiling when he comes, Rick has to misdirect Neegan when HE comes, so that it's unexpected. It's basic strategy, going all the way back to Sun Tzu.
Speaking of what comes next, I wouldn't stop watching just yet. You probably need to see what happens next to get some sort of closure, becaue the dead ARE beloved characters that most viewers had gotten attached to. Things look bleak right now, but have you EVER known that group to just give up and lay down?
Neegan's got some deep shit coming. I bet he ain't smiling THEN! A man might come along and pop a couple of mine, but if he does, I'm gonna fuck up his whole world for generations to come... that's the sort of thing I would expect out of this bunch.
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