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Russia and China relationship, going down ?
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(08-12-2020, 12:06 PM)Ninurta Wrote: With all due respect, I don't care about the checkered pasts of Zero Hedge contributors or their board of directors, so long as the info provided can be verified. Their individual pasts are irrelevant to the intel at hand. Then again, I've had to deal with some pretty unsavory characters to get good intel, because bad people often have bad info, since they are closer to the source of it. I didn't ask for their CV, I asked if they had any verification.

With that in mind, are you saying the ad is fake, and Zero Hedge spent their own dime to produce it as propaganda?

To be fair, I've never known even radical Muslims (and yes, I've known a few who would pass for "radical", even in this permissive age)  to call a halt to an operation to make salat, but the video DOES show an NCOIC "shushing" a radio operator, and that isn't done for prayers, either - not Christian, not Muslim, not Buddhist, not Satanist - NO religious prayers. There is no survivable point in halting incoming information in the middle of an operation just to have a short word with your god.

If your god can't hear you even in the middle of explosions, he's a pretty weak god, and you might be better off praying to a stronger one.

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"With all due respect" - you tend to say that every time that you are about to kick me in the nuts! LOL

You have a very firm view on certain topics Nin, and that's a good thing.
But, in the past, when I've offered a point that you don't accept/agree with, you've said that you'll admit to being "educated and corrected" if I provide you with the evidence to prove my case, e.g. with the Doxxing thread/comments (in Hinges are Broken?).
I did so, at your request (providing a link to evidence of doxxing by the other side of the argument)... but am still waiting for your response to the evidence I provided.

FYI - In this instance, I wasn't commenting on the info itself.
I was commenting on the biased interpretation of the info:
Zerohedge, with their far right history, dodgy operating practices (psedoanonymity?) and illegal goings-on, putting their own spin on the contents of the video to suit their own agenda.

Getting the right info out of bad'uns via interrogation (or other means) has nothing whatsoever to do with propagandists like Zerohedge putting their own spin on the information in their own article, which they are presenting as fact.

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PS - My God?? NOT MY God! LOL

BTW - We all (even you!) layer our own interpretations of what is going on in any given topic, dependent on our background, upbringing and perspective.
It's human nature.


e.g. In this video:
How do you know it's an active operation and not just a squad taking a break during a training exercise?
What explosions??? There weren't any explosions anywhere near this discussion or in the video...

Your comments are bang on IF it's an active operation... but... is it?

We all layer our own interpretations onto what we see, but it shouldn't be presented as fact (like zerohedge have done) without very good corroborating evidence IMHO.

In this case, zerohedge stated (among many other things):
Quote:...The Army’s new priority was to show off how woke they are, and to make new recruits feel safe and happy… as opposed to building a lethal, highly effective fighting force.

Is that FACT or their OPINION?

Quote:One of the best examples of this ad campaign shows British soldiers on a combat patrol, ostensibly in the mountains of Afghanistan.

But suddenly the mission stops… because one of the soldiers is Muslim and needs to pray.

Are they on Combat Patrol? Is it Afghanistan?
Did they really STOP the mission because the Muslim soldier needed to pray?
Or is that THEIR interpretation of what was happening?


Quote:The ad shows the rest of the unit happily and patiently waiting. At one point, the radio squawks (which is usually because the command headquarters or another nearby unit needs to communicate with your squad.)
But one of the soldiers shushes the radio operator. So we not only need to stop the entire freaking war, but we have to cut ourselves off from potentially critical communication, just so this guy can continue to pray without being disturbed...

Did we REALLY STOP the ENTIRE FREAKING WAR like they state? or could it have simply been during a break in a training run?
Perspective, interpretation and spin IMHO, but they present it as fact!

To be fair, most media outlets do this to some degree nowadays, but it doesn't make it right correct! LOL

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RE: Russia and China relationship, going down ? - by gordi - 08-12-2020, 02:07 PM

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