(07-04-2020, 02:21 AM)hounddoghowlie Wrote: what's even more ironic is, if they get what they want "defund the police", the private security that people hire will be even more brutal then the cops ever were.
Yes and no. I used to do that sort of work.
Private security can get away with things police can't do, and police can get away with things private security can't do. One outfit I worked for used to team up private security and sworn police for that very reason.
Also, private security frequently has to meet higher standards than police do. For instance, I had to meet psych testing that police did not have to undergo, and some officers even refused to take when they left the police and tried to hire on with my outfit - they did not believe they could pass. I know of one former police officer who at least tried it, and failed the pych evals. We also had to meet higher standards for accuracy with firearms - 10% higher was required by law, although many of us surpassed that.
With that said, some of the guys I worked with were batshit crazy, and I have no idea how they passed the pych evals - or maybe they lost the plot on the job after the evals. No idea. Some were pretty brutal, some just LOOKED brutal but were creampuffs. Some were all business and no nonsense, some were reminiscent of Barney Fife.
Like the rest of humanity, you will find a cross-section within their ranks.
Private security does not enjoy the "sovereign immunity" that public police do, and which politicians are steadily trying to remove from cops. They do, however, have quite a bit more latitude on property owned by their employer. That's one of the reasons they would team some of us up with sworn officers - they would send us in to private property to get the "bad guys", and once we had them we would then "extract" them out to where tho cops could cuff and stuff 'em. They would also arm us up to secure places that were under threat, so that they didn't have to tie up sworn officers to babysit a maybe.
The bottom line to all of this, however, is that if/when they eliminate public police in favor of private security, only folks with the coin to pay for protection will have it - the rest of the world will be on it's own, thrown to the wolves. The incident @"IAMTAT" mentions is not isolated. The Minneapolis City Council has voted to eliminate police, and at the same time are paying about 24K a week as I recall for private security for 3 of it's members who are claiming they received threats. It's happening all over, and seems to be accelerating.
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Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
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