02-03-2022, 02:09 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-03-2022, 02:12 AM by Bally002.
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Posting upon this thread is outside my normal views. A bit out of my depth.
I appreciate the US intervention in WWII and salute members of all armed forces from that country during those times preventing the occupation of the Japanese of northern Australia. I certainly do.
If a threat to our soil occurred again I am sure the yanks would intervene and the feeling on the ground here is reciprocal.
If Aust sent troops to Ukraine I would question the value in that whether ground or air support. Ukraine isn't our concern. New Guinea, The Solomons, Tonga, Fiji and to a lesser extent, New Zealand are and each of those countries would defend their respective nations tenaciously and the Pacific is our backyard.
I say let Europe decide it's own fate. They have done so politically and economically in the recent past. Don't do a Napoleon, US. Defend by all means your geographical and demographic needs locally but not political and personal in Europe. Sure, NATO, that is an agreement but for F'sake it's not the be all and could be the end all. Let Ukraine and Europe decide it's fate.
In saying that there is the ANZUS treaty. This assures our nations down-under would receive US assistance in any case. We appreciate that and would respond in kind however little that assistance is.
Now, simply put from my thoughts are - US has no need to intervene in another Korea, Vietnam or Afghanistan for that matter where a percentage of the locals stabbed you in the back killing a large number of your soldiers. Ukraine is no different. Made up of a lot of Russian sympathisers. Don't send your armed forces into a conflict that will slaughter your men and women for a personal cause no less the casualties on the other sides.
Russia is playing the politics of "Come in Spinner" and gauging US response. Don't play the game of "Two up" as you would surely lose. By all means bet on those who have got your back but in this case it might be "Yeah,,,,Nah."
Meanwhile.
My input, place your trust in those that have "Got yer back" and would not knife it.
Bally
I appreciate the US intervention in WWII and salute members of all armed forces from that country during those times preventing the occupation of the Japanese of northern Australia. I certainly do.
If a threat to our soil occurred again I am sure the yanks would intervene and the feeling on the ground here is reciprocal.
If Aust sent troops to Ukraine I would question the value in that whether ground or air support. Ukraine isn't our concern. New Guinea, The Solomons, Tonga, Fiji and to a lesser extent, New Zealand are and each of those countries would defend their respective nations tenaciously and the Pacific is our backyard.
I say let Europe decide it's own fate. They have done so politically and economically in the recent past. Don't do a Napoleon, US. Defend by all means your geographical and demographic needs locally but not political and personal in Europe. Sure, NATO, that is an agreement but for F'sake it's not the be all and could be the end all. Let Ukraine and Europe decide it's fate.
In saying that there is the ANZUS treaty. This assures our nations down-under would receive US assistance in any case. We appreciate that and would respond in kind however little that assistance is.
Now, simply put from my thoughts are - US has no need to intervene in another Korea, Vietnam or Afghanistan for that matter where a percentage of the locals stabbed you in the back killing a large number of your soldiers. Ukraine is no different. Made up of a lot of Russian sympathisers. Don't send your armed forces into a conflict that will slaughter your men and women for a personal cause no less the casualties on the other sides.
Russia is playing the politics of "Come in Spinner" and gauging US response. Don't play the game of "Two up" as you would surely lose. By all means bet on those who have got your back but in this case it might be "Yeah,,,,Nah."
Meanwhile.
My input, place your trust in those that have "Got yer back" and would not knife it.
Bally