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Russia, NATO, and Idiots
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(01-26-2022, 06:56 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: @"727Sky" 

Those comments are what I mean when I say the people wanting to "solve" this crisis never want to bring out that the sovereign country that is targeted by other powers should have a say in what they want to do.  It sounds like more of the "Ukraine is Russia's colony" mentality.

To be sure, western powers (primarily EU) have been trying to pull economic power plays in Ukraine since the revolution.  German tycoons in particular are anxious to make huge fortunes off the backs of the Ukrainian people.

But we shouldn't kid ourselves that Putin is some kind of protector or rescuer for them.  He just wants his own kleptocracy to make huge fortunes off the backs of the Ukrainian people while making the West look weak and disorganized (something not at all hard to do these days).

The West has done these kind of 'deals' before.  The take-away is making deals that robbed other countries of their sovereignty didn't stop a coming war, it just put the West in a worse situation when war broke out.

Cheers

Yup, the "Ukraine is a Russian colony" mindset is pretty much where I am. It's always been in the Russian sphere, and always will be. it's in THEIR back yard, not mine, and none of my business, no place I should get myself mired up in. Especially not when our own borders are so porous and unguarded. We got our own problems HERE, and no reason I can think of that I should concern myself with a bunch of "Undocumented Russians" violating a border way over THERE while undocumented border crashers are punching more and more holes in MY border at home.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’




Messages In This Thread
Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by 727Sky - 01-20-2022, 12:23 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-20-2022, 02:52 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by ABNARTY - 01-21-2022, 01:28 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-21-2022, 07:09 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Kenzo - 01-21-2022, 06:58 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-21-2022, 10:17 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Kenzo - 01-23-2022, 08:45 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by 727Sky - 01-23-2022, 08:53 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Kenzo - 01-24-2022, 10:49 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by F2d5thCav - 01-24-2022, 05:24 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-24-2022, 09:17 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by 727Sky - 01-26-2022, 05:30 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by F2d5thCav - 01-26-2022, 06:56 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-26-2022, 06:26 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Kenzo - 01-26-2022, 06:42 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by F2d5thCav - 01-27-2022, 08:28 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-28-2022, 04:12 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by F2d5thCav - 01-28-2022, 04:48 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-28-2022, 05:56 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Kenzo - 01-28-2022, 07:18 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by F2d5thCav - 01-28-2022, 06:05 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-28-2022, 07:02 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by F2d5thCav - 01-28-2022, 07:26 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Kenzo - 01-28-2022, 08:00 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-29-2022, 06:44 AM

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