12-07-2021, 06:37 PM
(12-07-2021, 10:30 AM)Bally002 Wrote: Going out on a limb here from the religious perspective. Being RC and having gone through the nuns, brothers and priests. I'm not a church goer but in answer to the original post, Jesus died on the cross to save us all, weel okay, but his death would be considered a suicide and he knew the outcome. He had a choice if you believe that part of the bible.
So my take is he knew the pain and suffering he would have to go through and his ultimate death. It is written he could have saved himself at anytime. But he chose death by Crucifixion. Is that a form of suicide?
Later consider those that chose death in his name. eg: The crusaders. Willing to die. Is that suicide?
My thoughts,
Bally
I suppose you could see that way, but he didn't want to really do it. In all four gospels he asked God to take this cup away from him, but he accepted the will of God.
here it is in Mathew,
Quote:Matthew 26:39
New American Standard Bible
39 And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.”
Jesus also said,
Quote:John 15:13
New American Standard Bible
13 Greater love has no one than this, that a person will lay down his life for his friends.
Jesus didn't kill or allow his self to be for his own wants, he did it for His father and everyone else.