07-28-2020, 11:53 AM
(07-27-2020, 03:34 PM)gordi Wrote:(07-27-2020, 01:45 PM)MarioOnTheFly Wrote: I guess I disagree with some of your conclusions about Covid :) In Croatia a 136 people died from the "virus"....in almost 5 months. A similar amount to a number of people that have died in car accidents in this period.
Last year, we had 109 deaths from the standard influenza up until march, and thats with massive vaccine campaign (like every year).
It was and still is my own reasoning that the COVID numbers in biggest countries are fudged, wrong, artificially inflated, mostly due to politics. In US is is especially visible with CDC numbers fudging, hospitals getting more money if Covid reported and the like, and you wouldnt have known it if you watch CNN. It serves the purpose of inciting fear and panic among the population. Perhaps these countries need to be taken down by "someone".
COVID is a virus, but its importance/impact is hugely overstated IMO. It is indeed a HOAX of some kind. The purpose is not yet completely clear, but I know I wont like it whatever it is.
Hi @"MarioOnTheFly"
I'd be very interested to know what conclusions you disagree with?
If Croatia wasn't badly hit - that's great. But it surely doesn't mean that the pandemic is a hoax does it?
I've given links to 3 separate articles explaining how/when they isolated/purified and replicated the SARS-Cov-2 virus.
I've explained in some detail how I personally checked the death figures in my own country, and how those figures are correct (not fudged/inflated/exaggerated) and checkable, as well as how the figures for this spring are well above the average death rates for that time of year here. (JUST Actual Death figures - nothing specifically ascribed to the virus!)
I've pointed out that, even in the video itself, they admit that many deaths were caused by the virus (e.g. in Lombardy, Italy)
So, how is it a hoax?
I don't understand that reasoning.
Our hospitals (here in Scotland) don't get any extra money for reporting deaths as being related to the virus, as is the case with most countries.
The media definitely did go overboard with the fear & panic scare-stories, but that is what they do isn't it?
They inflate, they distort, they imply and they manipulate "news" to suit their own agendas. But again, that doesn't mean that the virus itself is a hoax, does it?
regards
G
Hey G,
I'll try to relay my reasoning, and why I'm suspicious about it, never mind David Icke, whom I like actually. He's one of the first that got me engaged in a conspiracy side of things. It's because of him I got to ATS, and now here. I'll explain that later.
This will be in no particular order:
1. Even to this day, number of "infected" is constantly being publicized all over the news and internet. This serves no other purpose but to scare the public. Around 80-85 % of people will be asymptomatic or with very weak symptoms and will recover just fine. These numbers of infected are actually false. It is in fact far larger number of people that are infected, they just didnt get tested, or are simply not having any symptoms and therefore have no reason to get tested. Some will not do it simply bc they "never" go to the doctors. If you could know for a fact...the true number of infected, we would have seen that the true death rate for COVID is far lower than publicized. Probably rivals common influenza in that regard.
2. Substantial percentage of people that died of COVID had underlying health issues. It is highly likely they would be in danger of dying even if they didnt have COVID, but influenza or even the common cold. This is why older people and risk groups take the annual flu shot, bc it could kill them, and they know it. Could but might not. It's down to your choice. Public health officials urge the public to take it, but in the end, you're not obliged. Most people just either stay at home or "walk" through it.
3. "But it surely doesn't mean that the pandemic is a hoax does it?" - The very word is meant to make it more than it is. It is a pandemic, like the one we have every year for thousands of years, we just dont call them that. We call it "flu season".
4. Is there a new virus ? well, I guess there is. Is it a reason to go apeshit globally ? It's not the plague. The sheer panic promoted by the globalists (from the media to WHO) is taking its toll as much as the virus is.
5. Virus has been isolated and DNA sequenced - I'm fine if it was. Icke is obviously wrong on that one.
6. There is now a substantial amount of doctors claiming HCQ (with zinc) works in early phases of the infection, yet this info is vehemently covered up, silenced by the media and the WHO. The Lancet study that claimed it's dangerous has now been retracted, yet I bet it wasnt reported by MSM. The deaf populace that eats up CNN is still hung on those buzzwords of the initial study.
7. WHO going back and forth on its assessment of the infection. First it's no biggie. Than it's a pandemic. Masks dont work, then masks save lives. It is a daily occurrence to see public figures that officially promote wearing masks, while in private they do the opposite. Only when public started to get outraged about it, they started following through...just to score political points.
8. The fact that some political factions are using this virus as a means of toppling current democratically elected govts so they can get into power, is highly suspicious. As is the BLM hoax movement.
These are things I could dig up from my mind at this moment, but every other day new stuff comes out which only reaffirms my stance, that this is a manufactured crisis. And no, not "everybody" is in on it. They dont need to be. There is a constant push by the globalist to reinvent the world economy. Plenty of people are pushing back on that. Trump and Brexit put a serious dent in that program, and the cabal now understands that they need to destroy the resistance, and then offer a solution for a global population. As Icke likes to state...create a problem, create panic and fear, and then offer a solution.
As it now stands, it is almost a certainty that the virus was "created" by humans. The media has created the needed panic. And the WHO and Gates will now offer a solution for us.
Bc of all this, I'm of the opinion that all this is a a HOAX of some kind. Not the virus, but everything around it.