ROGUE CUP CHALLENGE #9-'The Roguening'

[FlyingClayDisk]

IAMTAT,

I will await further instructions on what you would like me to do next.

Do you want me to:

a.) Identify if anyone got the correct answer?

b.) Identify which statement is false?

c.) Hold up, and do something different?

Feel free to pick all which apply.

Thx.

If JINMI doesn't want to ask another last question.
FAUX and JINMI can state their choice for the lie.
THEN you can reveal the lie...with any explanations you may want to include.

Understood.

Wilco.

I am writing up the reply and explanations now.

[IAMTAT]

IF FAUX and JINMI both choose correctly...
FCD makes a quick 'TRUE or FALSE' claim to them both...to be used as a tie breaker. 

IF neither one wins...FCD retains the mantle of 'Lying Rogue'...and may or may not choose players for the next challenge...as he so desires.

[IAMTAT]

IAMTAT,

I will await further instructions on what you would like me to do next.

Do you want me to:

a.) Identify if anyone got the correct answer?

b.) Identify which statement is false?

c.) Hold up, and do something different?

Feel free to pick all which apply.

Thx.

If JINMI doesn't want to ask another last question.
FAUX and JINMI can state their choice for the lie.
THEN you can reveal the lie...with any explanations you may want to include.

Understood.

Wilco.

I am writing up the reply and explanations now.

FCD...can you shoot out a quick answer to JINMi's final question first?...

and then they can both make their choice before you reveal.

[FlyingClayDisk]

Alrighty then!  Last one. 

Where did you have dinner with the Dolphins QB?

LOLOLOLOL!!!!! 

Great Question (again)!

A quaint little restaurant which was recommended to us by the name of "Alex's".  Please don't ask me where exactly it was, because I have no idea!  I only remember the name of it, and I absolutely do not know my way around in Southern California in the slightest!  I've only been there (3) times in my life, and that was one of them!  It was near the water, I do remember that much.  And it was a very old family owned restaurant.

For Dinner, we all had the same thing.  Crab, served with drawn butter.  Also served with dinner were home baked rolls, and homemade Guava preserves (best I've ever eaten).  Prior to the main course we were served a salad with a dressing based on Campbell's tomato soup which I have tried for over fifty years to replicate and have not been successful.

I am dead-serious too!  I remember vividly what we had for dinner that night.  In fact, we had all decided ahead of time what we were going to order. 

ETA - Our waitress' name was Ginny, and the Owner's wife was also the head Chef. Her name was Marge. And, I also met Alex himself that night, along with his grand daughter, Wendy, whom I fell instantly in kid-love with. We corresponded for many years afterwards.

Funny you would ask this question actually, because I just looked her up on the Interwebz just the other day wondering what she was doing and what she looked like now! (I wasn't able to find out...unfortunately).

On a related side note, my Mom cut herself on one of the crab shells that night also (pretty badly too, I might add).

[FlyingClayDisk]

FCD...can you shoot out a quick answer to JINMi's final question first?...

and then they can both make their choice before you reveal.

Done.

Sorry, I didn't see that one.  Answer is above.

Standing by.

[Jinmi]

FCD...can you shoot out a quick answer to JINMi's final question first?...

and then they can both make their choice before you reveal.

Done.

Sorry, I didn't see that one.  Answer is above.

Standing by.

My choice is statement #1 to be the lie.

As an aside, FCD, what an interesting life youve lived!

[IAMTAT]

FAUX and JINMI...
Post your choices.

[IAMTAT]

Doesn't count...but I think the golf game is the lie.

[FauxMulder]

This was a tough one. I can think of reasons why each could be true and at the same time think of ways each may be false. 

I'm going to go with my gut and say dinner before the super bowl is the lie. I believe that game was played in LA. Not sure why anyone would ever get crab from LA!!! Lol I think you may have had dinner with him but not the night before the super bowl. 

Either way, nice job FCD!

[IAMTAT]

Ready for the REVEAL, FCD.

[FlyingClayDisk]

Ready for the REVEAL, FCD.

HA!  Unreal!

I'm not sure I understand how he figured it out, but it turns out, Jinmi is correct.  Statement #1 is the one which was not entirely true.  Here's the rest of the story...

Oh, and indcidentally, Faux is also correct about something...yes, Super Bowl VII was, in fact, played in Los Angeles (which is where I had dinner with Earl Morrall and family the night before the Super Bowl). However, unfortunately, his conclusion as to which statement was not correct was incorrect.

Okay...here's the rest of the story...

Well, it turns out that all three statements are true for the most part.  The only answer which is partially incorrect is….Statement #1.
 
Statement #1 – For many years I actually believed the baseball was signed in 1968.  I was too young to remember it correctly.  One day I took the ball to a sports memorabilia place to establish the value.  I told the guy the story and he just laughed at me.  I was pretty embarrassed…UNTIL he told me what I should do after I left his store!
 
He then went on to tell me, the ball was clearly original, and one of the only ones he’d ever seen.  He said I should have known right away that it wasn’t signed in 1968 because right across the official ball silk screening on the leather was the signature of none other than Billy Martin.
 
Billy Martin didn’t become the GM of the Detroit Tigers until 1971, but most of the Hall of Fame players and players who had been in the World Series in ’68 were still on the Detroit roster.  The ball was actually signed in 1972. And, the owner of the memorabilia store had told me I should both insure the ball, make damn sure it was kept in a protective case and that I should be very proud to be the owner of a very rare piece of Major League Baseball history.
 
And just some other footnotes for those who may be curious.
 
Statement #2 – Is true.  And the responses I gave to Faux and Jimni’s questions are accurate how that event came to pass.
 
Statement #3 – Also true.  The Morrall’s were close family friends of ours, and I was friends with their two boys, both of whom were younger than me.  For any football historians, you will know that Bob Griese, the then QB for the Miami Dolphins, broke his leg early in the ’72 season.  Earl Morrall, who was a seasoned veteran on the squad, who came to Miami after playing with the likes of Johnny Unitas for the Baltimore Colts, got the starting slot for the Dolphins that year.  Morrall took the Dolphins all the way through the balance of the ’72 season undefeated, and through the playoffs undefeated…UNTIL the 3rd Quarter of the AFC Championship game when Coach Don Shula pulled Morrall and put the now healed Bob Griese in.  The Dolphins won that game, and went on to win the Super Bowl VII in January of ’73.
 
Our dinner with Earl Morrall, and his wife and kids that evening, the night before the Super Bowl was a  somber one.  A dinner I remember as being very bittersweet even to this day.  Earl Morrall was ever the optimistic NFL player, and everyone was ecstatic to be going to the “Big Show”, but it was unlikely that our friend would get to play unless Griese got hurt again (something I found almost difficult not to wish for!)  Morrall had brought them all the way to the Super Bowl, and Shula pulled him in favor of Griese.  That was the thanks he got.  I was not happy.  None of us were, and although he would have never admitted it openly, I’m sure none of us were more unhappy than Earl himself.
 
P.S. – I also alluded to an ‘Extra Credit’ statement in my opening statement.  Just for grins I’ll throw that out here now too. It was going to read as follows…
 
Statement #4 – I received a hand autographed copy of the book “The Winning Edge”, by Coach Don Shula.  He autographed the inside of the jacket and handed it to me personally.  I thanked him and walked out of the room…and threw the book in the trash on the way out.  I never spoke to, or saw, Coach Shula again.
 
Explanation – Also a true statement.  My mother saw me do this and grabbed the book out of the trash.  She had secretly saved the book and gave it to me after my first year of college at the University of Utah.  The book is sitting on my bookshelf today.  I’ve never read it.
 
Note – I just looked on my library bookshelf, and oddly the book is not there.  I was going to retrieve it to read the inscription here.  That’s very strange.  Truth be told though, I really don’t care.  In fact, I’m sure it’s around here somewhere and when I find it…I’ll probably throw it in the trash again!  (Dead serious too.)  In any case, I remember he spelled my name wrong, right after I had finished telling him how to spell it, and that just poured salt in the already open wound from several years before.

On the other hand, I also have Earl Morrall's book "In the Pocket", also autographed by my friend.  When I was looking for Shula's book, I did take the time to make sure Morrall's book was still there.  Whew!

Sadly, Earl Morrall passed away in 2014.  May he Rest in Peace.  A gentleman, and athlete, a true legend of the game...and a friend.  My friend.

And that, my friends, is (all) a true story!

Lastly, I am happy to answer any other questions people may have.  Hopefully this was fun for you all.  For me, it dredged up some both happy and not so happy memories of a time quite a while ago indeed.

Thanks, All!  For allowing me to play.

[IAMTAT]

Ready for the REVEAL, FCD.

HA!  Unreal!

I'm not sure I understand how he figured it out, but it turns out, Jinmi is correct.  Statement #1 is the one which was not entirely true.  Here's the rest of the story...

Oh, and indcidentally, Faux is also correct about something...yes, Super Bowl VII was, in fact, played in Los Angeles (which is where I had dinner with Earl Morrall and family the night before the Super Bowl).

Okay...here's the rest of the story...

Well, it turns out that all three statements are true for the most part.  The only answer which is partially incorrect is….Statement #1.
 
Statement #1 – For many years I actually believed the baseball was signed in 1968.  I was too young to remember it correctly.  One day I took the ball to a sports memorabilia place to establish the value.  I told the guy the story and he just laughed at me.  I was pretty embarrassed…UNTIL he told me what I should do after I left his store!
 
He then went on to tell me, the ball was clearly original, and one of the only ones he’d ever seen.  He said I should have known right away that it wasn’t signed in 1968 because right across the official ball silk screening on the leather was the signature of none other than Billy Martin.
 
Billy Martin didn’t become the GM of the Detroit Tigers until 1971, but most of the Hall of Fame players and players who had been in the World Series in ’68 were still on the Detroit roster.  The ball was actually signed in 1972.
 
And just some other footnotes for those who may be curious.
 
Statement #2 – Is true.  And the responses I gave to Faux and Jimni’s questions are accurate how that event came to pass.
 
Statement #3 – Also true.  The Morrall’s were close family friends of ours, and I was friends with their two boys, both of whom were younger than me.  For any football historians, you will know that Bob Griese, the then QB for the Miami Dolphins, broke his leg early in the ’72 season.  Earl Morrall, who was a seasoned veteran on the squad, who came to Miami after playing with the likes of Johnny Unitas for the Baltimore Colts, got the starting slot for the Dolphins that year.  Morrall took the Dolphins all the way through the balance of the ’72 season undefeated, and through the playoffs undefeated…UNTIL the 3rd Quarter of the AFC Championship game when Coach Don Shula pulled Morrall and put the now healed Bob Griese in.  The Dolphins won that game, and went on to win the Super Bowl VII in January of ’73.
 
Our dinner with Earl Morrall, and his wife and kids that evening, the night before the Super Bowl was a  somber one.  A dinner I remember as being very bittersweet even to this day.  Earl Morrall was ever the optimistic NFL player, and everyone was ecstatic to be going to the “Big Show”, but it was unlikely that our friend would get to play unless Griese got hurt again (something I found almost difficult not to wish for!)  Morrall had brought them all the way to the Super Bowl, and Shula pulled him in favor of Griese.  That was the thanks he got.  I was not happy.  None of us were, and although he would have never admitted it opening, I’m sure none of us were more unhappy than Earl himself.
 
P.S. – I also alluded to an ‘Extra Credit’ statement in my opening statement.  Just for grins I’ll throw that out here now too. It was going to read as follows…
 
Statement #4 – I received a hand autographed copy of the book “The Winning Edge”, by Coach Don Shula.  He autographed the inside of the jacket and handed it to me personally.  I thanked him and walked out of the room…and threw the book in the trash on the way out.  I never spoke to, or saw, Coach Shula again.
 
Explanation – Also a true statement.  My mother saw me do this and grabbed the book out of the trash.  She had secretly saved the book and gave it to me after my first year of college at the University of Utah.  The book is sitting on my bookshelf today.  I’ve never read it.
 
Note – I just looked on my library bookshelf, and oddly the book is not there.  I was going to retrieve it to read the inscription here.  That’s very strange.  Truth be told though, I really don’t care.  In fact, I’m sure it’s around here somewhere and when I find it…I’ll probably throw it in the trash again!  (Dead serious too.)  In any case, I remember he spelled my name wrong, right after I had finished telling him how to spell it, and that just poured salt in the already open wound from several years before.

On the other hand, I also have Earl Morrall's book "In the Pocket", also autographed by my friend.  When I was looking for Shula's book, I did take the time to make sure Morrall's book was still there.  Whew!

Sadly, Earl Morrall passed away in 2014.  May he Rest in Peace.  A gentleman, and athlete, a true legend of the game...and a friend.  My friend.

And that, my friends, is (all) a true story!

Lastly, I am happy to answer any other questions people may have.  Hopefully this was fun for you all.  For me, it dredged up some both happy and not so happy memories of a time quite a while ago indeed.

Thanks!

Congratulations to JINMI...and to you, FCD for a match as interesting as you are. You are one amazing dude.
Thank you, all for the great questions and answers.

JINMI and FAUX...Thanks for playing. You two were awesome.

JINMI...you are the new 'Lying Rogue'.
I hope you'll pay it forward with another great challenge.

-TAT

[Jinmi]

Ready for the REVEAL, FCD.

HA!  Unreal!

I'm not sure I understand how he figured it out, but it turns out, Jinmi is correct.  Statement #1 is the one which was not entirely true.  Here's the rest of the story...

Oh, and indcidentally, Faux is also correct about something...yes, Super Bowl VII was, in fact, played in Los Angeles (which is where I had dinner with Earl Morrall and family the night before the Super Bowl).  However, unfortunately, his conclusion as to which statement was not correct was incorrect.

Okay...here's the rest of the story...

Well, it turns out that all three statements are true for the most part.  The only answer which is partially incorrect is….Statement #1.
 
Statement #1 – For many years I actually believed the baseball was signed in 1968.  I was too young to remember it correctly.  One day I took the ball to a sports memorabilia place to establish the value.  I told the guy the story and he just laughed at me.  I was pretty embarrassed…UNTIL he told me what I should do after I left his store!
 
He then went on to tell me, the ball was clearly original, and one of the only ones he’d ever seen.  He said I should have known right away that it wasn’t signed in 1968 because right across the official ball silk screening on the leather was the signature of none other than Billy Martin.
 
Billy Martin didn’t become the GM of the Detroit Tigers until 1971, but most of the Hall of Fame players and players who had been in the World Series in ’68 were still on the Detroit roster.  The ball was actually signed in 1972.
 
And just some other footnotes for those who may be curious.
 
Statement #2 – Is true.  And the responses I gave to Faux and Jimni’s questions are accurate how that event came to pass.
 
Statement #3 – Also true.  The Morrall’s were close family friends of ours, and I was friends with their two boys, both of whom were younger than me.  For any football historians, you will know that Bob Griese, the then QB for the Miami Dolphins, broke his leg early in the ’72 season.  Earl Morrall, who was a seasoned veteran on the squad, who came to Miami after playing with the likes of Johnny Unitas for the Baltimore Colts, got the starting slot for the Dolphins that year.  Morrall took the Dolphins all the way through the balance of the ’72 season undefeated, and through the playoffs undefeated…UNTIL the 3rd Quarter of the AFC Championship game when Coach Don Shula pulled Morrall and put the now healed Bob Griese in.  The Dolphins won that game, and went on to win the Super Bowl VII in January of ’73.
 
Our dinner with Earl Morrall, and his wife and kids that evening, the night before the Super Bowl was a  somber one.  A dinner I remember as being very bittersweet even to this day.  Earl Morrall was ever the optimistic NFL player, and everyone was ecstatic to be going to the “Big Show”, but it was unlikely that our friend would get to play unless Griese got hurt again (something I found almost difficult not to wish for!)  Morrall had brought them all the way to the Super Bowl, and Shula pulled him in favor of Griese.  That was the thanks he got.  I was not happy.  None of us were, and although he would have never admitted it openly, I’m sure none of us were more unhappy than Earl himself.
 
P.S. – I also alluded to an ‘Extra Credit’ statement in my opening statement.  Just for grins I’ll throw that out here now too. It was going to read as follows…
 
Statement #4 – I received a hand autographed copy of the book “The Winning Edge”, by Coach Don Shula.  He autographed the inside of the jacket and handed it to me personally.  I thanked him and walked out of the room…and threw the book in the trash on the way out.  I never spoke to, or saw, Coach Shula again.
 
Explanation – Also a true statement.  My mother saw me do this and grabbed the book out of the trash.  She had secretly saved the book and gave it to me after my first year of college at the University of Utah.  The book is sitting on my bookshelf today.  I’ve never read it.
 
Note – I just looked on my library bookshelf, and oddly the book is not there.  I was going to retrieve it to read the inscription here.  That’s very strange.  Truth be told though, I really don’t care.  In fact, I’m sure it’s around here somewhere and when I find it…I’ll probably throw it in the trash again!  (Dead serious too.)  In any case, I remember he spelled my name wrong, right after I had finished telling him how to spell it, and that just poured salt in the already open wound from several years before.

On the other hand, I also have Earl Morrall's book "In the Pocket", also autographed by my friend.  When I was looking for Shula's book, I did take the time to make sure Morrall's book was still there.  Whew!

Sadly, Earl Morrall passed away in 2014.  May he Rest in Peace.  A gentleman, and athlete, a true legend of the game...and a friend.  My friend.

And that, my friends, is (all) a true story!

Lastly, I am happy to answer any other questions people may have.  Hopefully this was fun for you all.  For me, it dredged up some both happy and not so happy memories of a time quite a while ago indeed.

Thanks, All!  For allowing me to play.

Well done FCD!!  Dont think too hard on how I got it correct, it was a fluke!  

Best I could surmise is how young you had to be, 6-8, and that you wouldnt likely be able to reach the dugout with your feet!  

Now i wanna tell you something eerie.

Back in the early 90s my Mom gave me her signed 1984 Tigers ball.  Case, and stand.  All the hand autographs.  Her prized posessiom, she was a big fan.  Best memories I have with her were staying up late listening to games.  

Anyway, also being big into basketball and baseball cards, a buddy and me went to the card shop.  It was bogus.  Never had the heart to tell her any maybe she already knew.  IDK.

Anyway, the boys and I used it after that and got a good half summer out of it.....was still a quality ball!

[Jinmi]

Ready for the REVEAL, FCD.

HA!  Unreal!

I'm not sure I understand how he figured it out, but it turns out, Jinmi is correct.  Statement #1 is the one which was not entirely true.  Here's the rest of the story...

Oh, and indcidentally, Faux is also correct about something...yes, Super Bowl VII was, in fact, played in Los Angeles (which is where I had dinner with Earl Morrall and family the night before the Super Bowl).

Okay...here's the rest of the story...

Well, it turns out that all three statements are true for the most part.  The only answer which is partially incorrect is….Statement #1.
 
Statement #1 – For many years I actually believed the baseball was signed in 1968.  I was too young to remember it correctly.  One day I took the ball to a sports memorabilia place to establish the value.  I told the guy the story and he just laughed at me.  I was pretty embarrassed…UNTIL he told me what I should do after I left his store!
 
He then went on to tell me, the ball was clearly original, and one of the only ones he’d ever seen.  He said I should have known right away that it wasn’t signed in 1968 because right across the official ball silk screening on the leather was the signature of none other than Billy Martin.
 
Billy Martin didn’t become the GM of the Detroit Tigers until 1971, but most of the Hall of Fame players and players who had been in the World Series in ’68 were still on the Detroit roster.  The ball was actually signed in 1972.
 
And just some other footnotes for those who may be curious.
 
Statement #2 – Is true.  And the responses I gave to Faux and Jimni’s questions are accurate how that event came to pass.
 
Statement #3 – Also true.  The Morrall’s were close family friends of ours, and I was friends with their two boys, both of whom were younger than me.  For any football historians, you will know that Bob Griese, the then QB for the Miami Dolphins, broke his leg early in the ’72 season.  Earl Morrall, who was a seasoned veteran on the squad, who came to Miami after playing with the likes of Johnny Unitas for the Baltimore Colts, got the starting slot for the Dolphins that year.  Morrall took the Dolphins all the way through the balance of the ’72 season undefeated, and through the playoffs undefeated…UNTIL the 3rd Quarter of the AFC Championship game when Coach Don Shula pulled Morrall and put the now healed Bob Griese in.  The Dolphins won that game, and went on to win the Super Bowl VII in January of ’73.
 
Our dinner with Earl Morrall, and his wife and kids that evening, the night before the Super Bowl was a  somber one.  A dinner I remember as being very bittersweet even to this day.  Earl Morrall was ever the optimistic NFL player, and everyone was ecstatic to be going to the “Big Show”, but it was unlikely that our friend would get to play unless Griese got hurt again (something I found almost difficult not to wish for!)  Morrall had brought them all the way to the Super Bowl, and Shula pulled him in favor of Griese.  That was the thanks he got.  I was not happy.  None of us were, and although he would have never admitted it opening, I’m sure none of us were more unhappy than Earl himself.
 
P.S. – I also alluded to an ‘Extra Credit’ statement in my opening statement.  Just for grins I’ll throw that out here now too. It was going to read as follows…
 
Statement #4 – I received a hand autographed copy of the book “The Winning Edge”, by Coach Don Shula.  He autographed the inside of the jacket and handed it to me personally.  I thanked him and walked out of the room…and threw the book in the trash on the way out.  I never spoke to, or saw, Coach Shula again.
 
Explanation – Also a true statement.  My mother saw me do this and grabbed the book out of the trash.  She had secretly saved the book and gave it to me after my first year of college at the University of Utah.  The book is sitting on my bookshelf today.  I’ve never read it.
 
Note – I just looked on my library bookshelf, and oddly the book is not there.  I was going to retrieve it to read the inscription here.  That’s very strange.  Truth be told though, I really don’t care.  In fact, I’m sure it’s around here somewhere and when I find it…I’ll probably throw it in the trash again!  (Dead serious too.)  In any case, I remember he spelled my name wrong, right after I had finished telling him how to spell it, and that just poured salt in the already open wound from several years before.

On the other hand, I also have Earl Morrall's book "In the Pocket", also autographed by my friend.  When I was looking for Shula's book, I did take the time to make sure Morrall's book was still there.  Whew!

Sadly, Earl Morrall passed away in 2014.  May he Rest in Peace.  A gentleman, and athlete, a true legend of the game...and a friend.  My friend.

And that, my friends, is (all) a true story!

Lastly, I am happy to answer any other questions people may have.  Hopefully this was fun for you all.  For me, it dredged up some both happy and not so happy memories of a time quite a while ago indeed.

Thanks!

Congratulations to JINMI...and to you, FCD for a match as interesting as you are. You are one amazing dude.
Thank you, all for the great questions and answers.

JINMI and FAUX...Thanks for playing. You two were awesome.

JINMI...you are the new 'Lying Rogue'.
I hope you'll pay it forward with another great challenge.

-TAT

Do you want to wait for participants or get the....ball...rollin?

[FlyingClayDisk]

Well done FCD!!  Dont think too hard on how I got it correct, it was a fluke!  

Best I could surmise is how young you had to be, 6-8, and that you wouldnt likely be able to reach the dugout with your feet!  

Now i wanna tell you something eerie.

Back in the early 90s my Mom gave me her signed 1984 Tigers ball.  Case, and stand.  All the hand autographs.  Her prized posessiom, she was a big fan.  Best memories I have with her were staying up late listening to games.  

Anyway, also being big into basketball and baseball cards, a buddy and me went to the card shop.  It was bogus.  Never had the heart to tell her any maybe she already knew.  IDK.

Anyway, the boys and I used it after that and got a good half summer out of it.....was still a quality ball!

First, very good deduction and you are exactly correct!  The dugout was about 4 feet away, and only the adults could put their feet up on it and even then only if they slid down a little in their seats!

Your story is really, really. cool!  You said something very interesting.  You said...

Best memories I have with her were staying up late listening to games. 

What I'm about to tell you next is going to send chills right down your spine!!  I swear it will!!

After my parents retired in their later years they moved to a retirement community in Novi, MI called Fox Run. 

Do you want to take a guess as to whom their next door neighbor was?????????

Hint...you said "listening".

Their next door neighbor was none other than.....Ernie Harwell! Famed voice of the Detroit Tigers for decades.

Inside the cover, on the facing first page of the book "Ernie Harwell - Breaking 90 - Nine Decades Young and Still Loving Baseball" by the Detroit Free Press, is the inscription..."Dear Bob, I hope you enjoy my book!  Earnie Harwell." 

It's true!

Spent many a night on the back porch talking with Ernie about sports radio, baseball and the Detroit Tigers!

Now there's another true sports legend!

[Jinmi]

Well done FCD!!  Dont think too hard on how I got it correct, it was a fluke!  

Best I could surmise is how young you had to be, 6-8, and that you wouldnt likely be able to reach the dugout with your feet!  

Now i wanna tell you something eerie.

Back in the early 90s my Mom gave me her signed 1984 Tigers ball.  Case, and stand.  All the hand autographs.  Her prized posessiom, she was a big fan.  Best memories I have with her were staying up late listening to games.  

Anyway, also being big into basketball and baseball cards, a buddy and me went to the card shop.  It was bogus.  Never had the heart to tell her any maybe she already knew.  IDK.

Anyway, the boys and I used it after that and got a good half summer out of it.....was still a quality ball!

First, very good deduction and you are exactly correct!  The dugout was about 4 feet away, and only the adults could put their feet up on it and even then only if they slid down a little in their seats!

Your story is really, really. cool!  You said something very interesting.  You said...

Best memories I have with her were staying up late listening to games. 

What I'm about to tell you next is going to send chills right down your spine!!  I swear it will!!

After my parents retired in their later years they moved to a retirement community in Novi, MI called Fox Run. 

Do you want to take a guess as to whom their next door neighbor was?????????

Hint...you said "listening".

Their next door neighbor was.....Ernie Harwell!

Inside the cover, on the facing first page of the book "Ernie Harwell - Breaking 90 - Nine Decades Young and Still Loving Baseball" by the Detroit Free Press, is the inscription..."Dear Bob, I hope you enjoy my book!  Earnie Harwell." 

It's true!

Spent many a night on the back porch talking with Ernie about sports radio, baseball and the Detroit Tigers!

Now there's another true sports legend!

Wow!  
That had to be incredible.

[FlyingClayDisk]

Wow!  
That had to be incredible.

When you said "listening", I assumed you meant the radio.  You know who Ernie Harwell is, right?

I probably shouldn't assume things.

Link...Ernie Harwell

[Jinmi]

Wow!  
That had to be incredible.

When you said "listening", I assumed you meant the radio.  You know who Ernie Harwell is, right?

I probably shouldn't assume things.

Link...Ernie Harwell

Yessir.

Ernie and Al.

When Cecil Fielder did a repeat of Kirk Gibsons homer, completely over the stadium. Never heard such emotion over the radio. Good times.

[FlyingClayDisk]

Yessir.

Ernie and Al.

When Cecil Fielder did a repeat of Kirk Gibsons homer, completely over the stadium. Never heard such emotion over the radio. Good times.

Tough park to hit one out of!

Wow, I thought Norm Cash was the only player to ever actually hit one "over" the roof...and that was the right field roof too!  I thought all the other record holder's only managed to hit "onto" the left field roof.  Isn't Cash's record unbroken for distance? 

A hotdog with mustard never tasted as good as one from those guys that hiked that stadium at Michigan and Trumbull all those years!

Okay...I'll butt-out now!  LOL!

Enjoy!  And GREAT job!

[Jinmi]

Yessir.

Ernie and Al.

When Cecil Fielder did a repeat of Kirk Gibsons homer, completely over the stadium. Never heard such emotion over the radio. Good times.

Tough park to hit one out of!

Wow, I thought Norm Cash was the only player to ever actually hit one "over" the roof...and that was the right field roof too!  I thought all the other record holder's only managed to hit "onto" the left field roof.  Isn't Cash's record unbroken for distance? 

A hotdog with mustard never tasted as good as one from those guys that hiked that stadium at Michigan and Trumbull all those years!

Okay...I'll butt-out now!  LOL!

Enjoy!  And GREAT job!

On the roof does sound correct vs over.

"Bounced over the roof"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Cum4NKXnho