Escalating Violence @ New Normal Protests

[beez]

I suppose the real threat is social influence.

I thought that said, "social flatulance".

[Nomnomine]

I suppose the real threat is social influence.

I thought that said, "social flatulance".

Talk about a REAL threat! Lol

[Antisthenes]

And now two people are dead ...  this time in WI.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/26/kenosha-s...olice-blm/

The cops let the shooter walk off the scene.  An update says that he's been arrested in Illinois.

Whatevahs ... he was running and being chased ... and then some dude attacked him with a skateboard.  All things considered, shooter dude was maintaining composure.

It got more and more dangerous.  More and more violent.  And now deadly.

Shooter was a kool aid drinking 17 year old blue lives matter vigilante knucklebead that   has stolen two lives and gets to spend the rest of his stupid life in prison breaking his parents hearts and costing Wisconsin tax payers untold millions housing his sad carcass till they take him out in a box. Mission accomplished.
   
This land is going to be such a hellhole on Nov. 4th. The kool-aiders of either variety will be out looking for justice for their side and lots of people are going to die and possibly worse. All because the orange man knows divisive dissension creates chaos and that pandomonium is his friend. Sad day. More to come. Soon.

How is this Trump's fault? 

PPlease, please, please explain it to me in easy to understand words because I'm at a loss here.

My goodness....if I need to share an explanation with you then it would obviously bounce into oblivion and you would consider the facts I present as nothing more than a libtards endless prattle . I'll save us both, my keyboard and RN members the aggravation. I'm done pointing out what is more than obvious to anyone that's paying more than a modicum of attention to anything more than "their side" of the situation.

[Wide-Eyes]

And now two people are dead ...  this time in WI.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/26/kenosha-s...olice-blm/

The cops let the shooter walk off the scene.  An update says that he's been arrested in Illinois.

Whatevahs ... he was running and being chased ... and then some dude attacked him with a skateboard.  All things considered, shooter dude was maintaining composure.

It got more and more dangerous.  More and more violent.  And now deadly.

Shooter was a kool aid drinking 17 year old blue lives matter vigilante knucklebead that   has stolen two lives and gets to spend the rest of his stupid life in prison breaking his parents hearts and costing Wisconsin tax payers untold millions housing his sad carcass till they take him out in a box. Mission accomplished.
   
This land is going to be such a hellhole on Nov. 4th. The kool-aiders of either variety will be out looking for justice for their side and lots of people are going to die and possibly worse. All because the orange man knows divisive dissension creates chaos and that pandomonium is his friend. Sad day. More to come. Soon.

How is this Trump's fault? 

PPlease, please, please explain it to me in easy to understand words because I'm at a loss here.

My goodness....if I need to share an explanation with you then it would obviously  bounce into oblivion and you would consider the facts I present as nothing more than a libtards endless prattle . I'll save us both, my keyboard and RN members the aggravation. I'm done pointing out what is more than obvious to anyone that's paying more than a modicum of attention to anything  more than "their side" of the situation.

So you can't answer the question then.

What a cop out.

No offense but you Trump haters can never give a straight answer.

[Wide-Eyes]

Our nation was divided long before Trump came on the scene.

That's a pointless point. If a house is on fire, tossing gasoline on it generally won't extinguish the blaze.

Do you remember that time that Trump told everyone to go and burn cities to the ground?

Yeah, me neither...

So sad.

Am waiting for that time when President Trump says, "Snarl!!  Sick 'em!!"   :mediumangry:



      

Don't forget your pepper spray!

[Antisthenes]

And now two people are dead ...  this time in WI.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/26/kenosha-s...olice-blm/

The cops let the shooter walk off the scene.  An update says that he's been arrested in Illinois.

Whatevahs ... he was running and being chased ... and then some dude attacked him with a skateboard.  All things considered, shooter dude was maintaining composure.

It got more and more dangerous.  More and more violent.  And now deadly.

Shooter was a kool aid drinking 17 year old blue lives matter vigilante knucklebead that   has stolen two lives and gets to spend the rest of his stupid life in prison breaking his parents hearts and costing Wisconsin tax payers untold millions housing his sad carcass till they take him out in a box. Mission accomplished.
   
This land is going to be such a hellhole on Nov. 4th. The kool-aiders of either variety will be out looking for justice for their side and lots of people are going to die and possibly worse. All because the orange man knows divisive dissension creates chaos and that pandomonium is his friend. Sad day. More to come. Soon.

How is this Trump's fault? 

PPlease, please, please explain it to me in easy to understand words because I'm at a loss here.

My goodness....if I need to share an explanation with you then it would obviously  bounce into oblivion and you would consider the facts I present as nothing more than a libtards endless prattle . I'll save us both, my keyboard and RN members the aggravation. I'm done pointing out what is more than obvious to anyone that's paying more than a modicum of attention to anything  more than "their side" of the situation.

So you can't answer the question then.

What a cop out.

No offense but you Trump haters can never give a straight answer.

And to my point. I take no offense at all. And you Trump lovers can't see the forest for the trees.

[Wallfire]

Once again if you want to know what is going on now, study history. Communism, Stalinist, Socialism, Fascism, are all the same thing, yes all the same. None of these can work unless there is fear, hate, civil uprising,killings, the list just goes on and on.
Only when there is evil walking the land do these things thrive. 
HISTORY DOES NOT REPEAT ITS SELF, HUMANS REPEAT HISTORY.

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

Once again if you want to know what is going on now, study history. Communism, Stalinist, Socialism, Fascism, are all the same thing, yes all the same. None of these can work unless there is fear, hate, civil uprising,killings, the list just goes on and on.
Only when there is evil walking the land do these things thrive. 
HISTORY DOES NOT REPEAT ITS SELF, HUMANS REPEAT HISTORY.

It is puzzling to me how we can look at history and see such a wavering landscape. How reality becomes distorted to such a degree that even those that lived it, start to recolor sections of the sepia memories, making them much brighter and unreal, then they ever where. 

We look at the results of our advances over the years and ignore the damages those advances left in their wake.

We refuse to see that our knee jerk responses to problems that have been developing for centuries will  not be resolved with pen to worthless paper or wishful thinking. We remove a thorn from a gangrenous foot and think it is all better. Worse we feel proud, because at least we tried, and we did, something.

We call for a return to the days of old when America was supposedly great, but we ignore the fact the great was not great for all, and peaceful protest were not peaceful for those that were being drowned by fire hoses,  attacked by dogs, beaten and killed.

I love my country. I belive it is better than most, but I have American bias, because I am American. We have made mistakes, and we will make more.

But if we don't stop rewriting history and start learning from it we are doomed.

[Wallfire]

Once again if you want to know what is going on now, study history. Communism, Stalinist, Socialism, Fascism, are all the same thing, yes all the same. None of these can work unless there is fear, hate, civil uprising,killings, the list just goes on and on.
Only when there is evil walking the land do these things thrive. 
HISTORY DOES NOT REPEAT ITS SELF, HUMANS REPEAT HISTORY.

It is puzzling to me how we can look at history and see such a wavering landscape. How reality becomes distorted to such a degree that even those that lived it, start to recolor sections of the sepia memories, making them much brighter and unreal, then they ever where. 

We look at the results of our advances over the years and ignore the damages those advances left in their wake.

We refuse to see that our knee jerk responses to problems that have been developing for centuries will  not be resolved with pen to worthless paper or wishful thinking. We remove a thorn from a gangrenous foot and think it is all better. Worse we feel proud, because at least we tried, and we did, something.

We call for a return to the days of old when America was supposedly great, but we ignore the fact the great was not great for all, and peaceful protest were not peaceful for those that were being drowned by fire hoses,  attacked by dogs, beaten and killed.

I love my country. I belive it is better than most, but I have American bias, because I am American. We have made mistakes, and we will make more.

But if we don't stop rewriting history and start learning from it we are doomed.

People who rewrite history just want to repeat it. But I do find it strange that this has been "forgotten" Justine Damond

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

People who rewrite history just want to repeat it. But I do find it strange that this has been "forgotten" Justine Damond

I fought a losing battle not to let that one be forgotten.

I was not surprised because no one listens to me ever. I am but a nuisance gnat, that is flicked off or squashed. 

Justine' s case is one where if they had dealt with the ills in the police department, we may not have had the Floyd situation in Minnesota. 

We have to face the facts. We like to think we are independent, critical thinkers, but we are not.

We can see the strings so clearly on others but we are blind to the strings dangling from ourselves.

[Wallfire]

People who rewrite history just want to repeat it. But I do find it strange that this has been "forgotten" Justine Damond

I fought a losing battle not to let that one be forgotten.

I was not surprised because no one listens to me ever. I am but a nuisance gnat, that is flicked off or squashed. 

Justine' s case is one where if they had dealt with the ills in the police department, we may not have had the Floyd situation in Minnesota. 

We have to face the facts. We like to think we are independent, critical thinkers, but we are not.

We can see the strings so clearly on others but we are blind to the strings dangling from ourselves.

Many many years ago I got me a pair of scissors, and God have I paid a high high price for cutting the strings and not dancing to the puppeteers tune

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

Many many years ago I got me a pair of scissors, and God have I paid a high high price for cutting the strings and not dancing to the puppeteers tune

Yeah, I did that too, probably a long time before you. I was never a rebellious child, just a very inquisitive one. Some old ways die hard, and some don't die until you do.

The problem is the phantom effect. Like an amputation of a limb, when you aren't focused, you forget the limb is no longer there. You find yourself automatically doing things they way you did before the amputation. Unfortunately,  you find yourself falling on your face or behind, after you experienced the slip.

[Wallfire]

Many many years ago I got me a pair of scissors, and God have I paid a high high price for cutting the strings and not dancing to the puppeteers tune

Yeah, I did that too, probably a long time before you. I was never a rebellious child, just a very inquisitive one. Some old ways die hard, and some don't die until you do.

The problem is the phantom effect. Like an amputation of a limb, when you aren't focused, you forget the limb is no longer there. You find yourself automatically doing things they way you did before the amputation. Unfortunately,  you find yourself falling on your face or behind, after you experienced the slip.

You still have strings, read what you wrote . Its not important to me who is better than who, its the ability to run and spin round with no strings to tangle that I enjoy.

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

Many many years ago I got me a pair of scissors, and God have I paid a high high price for cutting the strings and not dancing to the puppeteers tune

Yeah, I did that too, probably a long time before you. I was never a rebellious child, just a very inquisitive one. Some old ways die hard, and some don't die until you do.

The problem is the phantom effect. Like an amputation of a limb, when you aren't focused, you forget the limb is no longer there. You find yourself automatically doing things they way you did before the amputation. Unfortunately,  you find yourself falling on your face or behind, after you experienced the slip.

You still have strings, read what you wrote . Its not important to me who is better than who, its the ability to run and spin round with no strings to tangle that I enjoy.

@Wallfire, that one huge bug in this type of communication. 

I was not attempting to compete with you, nor was I trying to appear better than you. I was pointing out that I was "older" than you, and have seen over the years that old behaviors die hard, even when you have cut yourselves off of them.

I will admit that at times I can see the nubs of the strings that I cut, and for the sake of honesty, there may be even be a few that I missed.

[Mystic Wanderer]

Here is a breakdown of the timeline from the shooting.  It is from Info Wars, which I stopped watching a few years ago, but they have the best footage and breakdown that I've seen so far.

Oh, by the way, did you all see that the official cause of death for George Floyd was an overdose of drugs? He was dying before the cop ever put his knee on his neck. That's why he was saying, "I can't breath" long before they ever had him on the ground.
Not saying this practice doesn't need to stop, but it wasn't the cop's fault he died.

On to the shooting video:  https://twitter.com/triton37/status/1298...52704?s=20

Watch it if you want to know what really happened.

[Wallfire]

Many many years ago I got me a pair of scissors, and God have I paid a high high price for cutting the strings and not dancing to the puppeteers tune

Yeah, I did that too, probably a long time before you. I was never a rebellious child, just a very inquisitive one. Some old ways die hard, and some don't die until you do.

The problem is the phantom effect. Like an amputation of a limb, when you aren't focused, you forget the limb is no longer there. You find yourself automatically doing things they way you did before the amputation. Unfortunately,  you find yourself falling on your face or behind, after you experienced the slip.

You still have strings, read what you wrote . Its not important to me who is better than who, its the ability to run and spin round with no strings to tangle that I enjoy.

@Wallfire, that one huge bug in this type of communication. 

I was not attempting to compete with you, nor was I trying to appear better than you. I was pointing out that I was "older" than you, and have seen over the years that old behaviors die hard, even when you have cut yourselves off of them.

I will admit that at times I can see the nubs of the strings that I cut, and for the sake of honesty, there may be even be a few that I missed.

I wonder how you guess how old I am, lets put it like this, im old enough to have been in the Vietnam war if I had lived in the USA  

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

I wonder how you guess how old I am, lets put it like this, im old enough to have been in the Vietnam war if I had lived in the USA  

I was judging by the images about the place. 

I did the tail end of Vietnam, but I was already in my late twenties when I went into the Air Force.

I hope that I didn't offend you. It is never my intention, but I sometimes word things in a way that may sound a way I did not intend. Forgive me if I did.

I am going to take a break for a while. I know that I can be noisome to some on occasion. 

I have a ton of stuff that I have been neglecting and it is time to stop making excuses and get some work done.

I am sure I will lurk in the corners a time or two. 

[Wallfire]

I wonder how you guess how old I am, lets put it like this, im old enough to have been in the Vietnam war if I had lived in the USA  

I was judging by the images about the place. 

I did the tail end of Vietnam, but I was already in my late twenties when I went into the Air Force.

I hope that I didn't offend you. It is never my intention, but I sometimes word things in a way that may sound a way I did not intend. Forgive me if I did.

I am going to take a break for a while. I know that I can be noisome to some on occasion. 

I have a ton of stuff that I have been neglecting and it is time to stop making excuses and get some work done.

I am sure I will lurk in the corners a time or two. 

Worry not I dont get offended, so I cant forgive you for something you never did 

[Snarl]

I wonder how you guess how old I am, lets put it like this, im old enough to have been in the Vietnam war if I had lived in the USA  

I was judging by the images about the place. 

I did the tail end of Vietnam, but I was already in my late twenties when I went into the Air Force.

I hope that I didn't offend you. It is never my intention, but I sometimes word things in a way that may sound a way I did not intend. Forgive me if I did.

I am going to take a break for a while. I know that I can be noisome to some on occasion. 

I have a ton of stuff that I have been neglecting and it is time to stop making excuses and get some work done.

I am sure I will lurk in the corners a time or two. 

Please don't become a stranger to us.

[Wide-Eyes]

I wonder how you guess how old I am, lets put it like this, im old enough to have been in the Vietnam war if I had lived in the USA  

I was judging by the images about the place. 

I did the tail end of Vietnam, but I was already in my late twenties when I went into the Air Force.

I hope that I didn't offend you. It is never my intention, but I sometimes word things in a way that may sound a way I did not intend. Forgive me if I did.

I am going to take a break for a while. I know that I can be noisome to some on occasion. 

I have a ton of stuff that I have been neglecting and it is time to stop making excuses and get some work done.

I am sure I will lurk in the corners a time or two. 

Please don't become a stranger to us.

I second this sentiment.  :minusculehi: