Unidentified - Inside America’s UFO Investigation - series on the History Channel

[Sol]

Here is an interesting article about the series and Luis Elizondo:

Are UFOs a threat? We need to investigate, says former head of secret US program

"I think we're at the point now where we're beyond reasonable doubt that these things exist," Elizondo said. "We know they're there — we have some of the greatest technology in the world that has confirmed their existence." But where do these objects come from, what are their capabilities and what are the intentions of whoever may have sent them?"

None of the objects had visible wings or other means of propulsion. What's more, they appeared to be performing maneuvers that would have subjected them to as much as 700 times the normal pull of gravity, or 700 Gs, Elizondo said. (Of course, there is no way to confirm those estimates, as the sightings were so fleeting and much of the obvious documentation is not readily available.) To put that into perspective, airplane cockpits can withstand only about 18 Gs before cracking, and people can typically endure just a few seconds at 9 Gs before losing consciousness, as gravity draws blood into the extremities and oxygen ceases to flow to the brain.

Worth a read :)

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The G force stuff is just mind blowing. I just don’t believe humans can build these unidentified aerial phenomena. With the technology we have now, nope, not buying that.

I agree. But is it alien technology? It could also be time traveling drones for all we know. Or inter-dimensional crafts. Or technology from a Parallel Universe.

Not ours, I agree, not with our technology, that much is for sure.

[guohua]

@"ChiefD" 
You might like this video. 

What he found is even better explained in this article.

McKinnon reported that he also found a list of military officers that were part of a secret military space battalion of “off-world space stations.” Rumor has it that during interrogation, he revealed the names of two military spaceships. He surmised the military officers were off-planet personnel for the fleet of military spaceships. He also found evidence that the government has discovered a “limitless and infinite energy source,” which it is also hiding from the world.

In 2002, the U.S. government arrested McKinnon in his British home. The government fought for 10 years to have him extradited, alleging he caused “serious damage” and his hacking was not “some harmless incident.” Finally, in December 2012, the British Government issued a final denial of the U.S. extradition request and all charges were dropped.
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[Schmoe1]

I don't get the History channel, but it sounds like a good show.  I'd watch it if I did.

Here is an interesting article about the series and Luis Elizondo:

Are UFOs a threat? We need to investigate, says former head of secret US program

"I think we're at the point now where we're beyond reasonable doubt that these things exist," Elizondo said. "We know they're there — we have some of the greatest technology in the world that has confirmed their existence." But where do these objects come from, what are their capabilities and what are the intentions of whoever may have sent them?"

None of the objects had visible wings or other means of propulsion. What's more, they appeared to be performing maneuvers that would have subjected them to as much as 700 times the normal pull of gravity, or 700 Gs, Elizondo said. (Of course, there is no way to confirm those estimates, as the sightings were so fleeting and much of the obvious documentation is not readily available.) To put that into perspective, airplane cockpits can withstand only about 18 Gs before cracking, and people can typically endure just a few seconds at 9 Gs before losing consciousness, as gravity draws blood into the extremities and oxygen ceases to flow to the brain.

Worth a read :)

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I don't know what to make of Luis Elizondo.  On one hand I want to believe the guy, on the other, the whole Tom Delonge affiliation turns me off.

Tom did an AM(almost)A over at ATS, it was pathetic.  To sum it up: "listen kid, I know things.  I know many higher ups in government, these people are serious.  Buy my books."

[ChiefD]

Sol

I don't get the History channel, but it sounds like a good show.  I'd watch it if I did.

Here is an interesting article about the series and Luis Elizondo:

Are UFOs a threat? We need to investigate, says former head of secret US program

"I think we're at the point now where we're beyond reasonable doubt that these things exist," Elizondo said. "We know they're there — we have some of the greatest technology in the world that has confirmed their existence." But where do these objects come from, what are their capabilities and what are the intentions of whoever may have sent them?"

None of the objects had visible wings or other means of propulsion. What's more, they appeared to be performing maneuvers that would have subjected them to as much as 700 times the normal pull of gravity, or 700 Gs, Elizondo said. (Of course, there is no way to confirm those estimates, as the sightings were so fleeting and much of the obvious documentation is not readily available.) To put that into perspective, airplane cockpits can withstand only about 18 Gs before cracking, and people can typically endure just a few seconds at 9 Gs before losing consciousness, as gravity draws blood into the extremities and oxygen ceases to flow to the brain.

Worth a read :)

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I don't know what to make of Luis Elizondo.  On one hand I want to believe the guy, on the other, the whole Tom Delonge affiliation turns me off.

Tom did an AM(almost)A over at ATS, it was pathetic.  To sum it up: "listen kid, I know things.  I know many higher ups in government, these people are serious.  Buy my books."

Is AMA “ask me anything?” Now I’m gonna go to ATS and search for that. I wonder if Tom Delonge is just bankrolling things or maybe he just seeks attention. I kinda ignore him. I do believe Lous Elizondo has a lot of integrity and respect.

[ChiefD]

@"ChiefD" 
You might like this video. 

What he found is even better explained in this article.

McKinnon reported that he also found a list of military officers that were part of a secret military space battalion of “off-world space stations.” Rumor has it that during interrogation, he revealed the names of two military spaceships. He surmised the military officers were off-planet personnel for the fleet of military spaceships. He also found evidence that the government has discovered a “limitless and infinite energy source,” which it is also hiding from the world.

In 2002, the U.S. government arrested McKinnon in his British home. The government fought for 10 years to have him extradited, alleging he caused “serious damage” and his hacking was not “some harmless incident.” Finally, in December 2012, the British Government issued a final denial of the U.S. extradition request and all charges were dropped.
Source

Very interesting video! Thanks for sharing. I wonder how the government would keep such a thing secret. So many things going on to think about. Another thing I wonder about is how did he manage to hack into top secret NASA and other government files?

[Schmoe1]

Sol

I don't get the History channel, but it sounds like a good show.  I'd watch it if I did.

Here is an interesting article about the series and Luis Elizondo:

Are UFOs a threat? We need to investigate, says former head of secret US program

"I think we're at the point now where we're beyond reasonable doubt that these things exist," Elizondo said. "We know they're there — we have some of the greatest technology in the world that has confirmed their existence." But where do these objects come from, what are their capabilities and what are the intentions of whoever may have sent them?"

None of the objects had visible wings or other means of propulsion. What's more, they appeared to be performing maneuvers that would have subjected them to as much as 700 times the normal pull of gravity, or 700 Gs, Elizondo said. (Of course, there is no way to confirm those estimates, as the sightings were so fleeting and much of the obvious documentation is not readily available.) To put that into perspective, airplane cockpits can withstand only about 18 Gs before cracking, and people can typically endure just a few seconds at 9 Gs before losing consciousness, as gravity draws blood into the extremities and oxygen ceases to flow to the brain.

Worth a read :)

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I don't know what to make of Luis Elizondo.  On one hand I want to believe the guy, on the other, the whole Tom Delonge affiliation turns me off.

Tom did an AM(almost)A over at ATS, it was pathetic.  To sum it up: "listen kid, I know things.  I know many higher ups in government, these people are serious.  Buy my books."

Is AMA “ask me anything?” Now I’m gonna go to ATS and search for that. I wonder if Tom Delonge is just bankrolling things or maybe he just seeks attention. I kinda ignore him. I do believe Lous Elizondo has a lot of integrity and respect.

Yup, I was making a joke, as in AskMeAlmostAnything.  Here's the link to the thread:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1113008/pg1

It was disappointing to say the least, especially after Tom was saying he knew all this shit and finally broke that barrier with the higher-ups about getting the ball rolling with disclosure.  His answers were, for the most part, short and vague.

The only thing I gleaned from it was looking into Lieutenant Colonel Philip Corso, who wrote a book about the Roswell crash and did an interview with Art Bell on Coast to Coast.

[guohua]

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[ChiefD]

I just got done watching episode three. This episode talked about sightings over the years from military personnel of UAP’s/UFO’s flying over installations that had missle silos. Many of these were Air Force bases up in the northern plains part of the country. There was an Air Force Major that saw one of these, and not only did the UFO hover over the area for over 30 minutes and then fly off in a split second, but apparently the missle silos were all shut down! That is some crazy scary stuff there. There were more sightings over other U.S. and one Canadian Air Force installation. These areas all had nuclear weapons or missle silos. 

The witnesses were very credible, all military, most officers with some enlisted. There was an incident in the Jordanian desert. A couple of Air Force security personnel were told to guard something in a wooden box. They were not told what was in the box, but the box was large enough to fit a Volkswagen into. So while these guys were guarding this thing in the middle of nowhere, they saw lights that were not stars, satellites, planets, anything like that. These lights flew, hovered, did sharp 90 degree turns, and zipped around like no aircraft of any kind can do. Then it disappeared in a flash. Rumor mill was that there was a nuclear warhead in the box, but nobody knows to this day. 

These craft who/whatever they are seem to be very interested in our nuclear weapons and bases. Apparently they sometimes can also turn off all the missle silos in a second. To say that this is a national security issue is putting it mildly. It’s pretty scary all around.

[guohua]

@"ChiefD" 
Yes I remember that incident about American and Russian Missile Silos being shut down, I think the Aliens were wanting to prove to themselves and the Powers incharge at the time, it could be done.

[Mystic Wanderer]

I just got done watching episode three. This episode talked about sightings over the years from military personnel of UAP’s/UFO’s flying over installations that had missle silos. Many of these were Air Force bases up in the northern plains part of the country. There was an Air Force Major that saw one of these, and not only did the UFO hover over the area for over 30 minutes and then fly off in a split second, but apparently the missle silos were all shut down! That is some crazy scary stuff there. There were more sightings over other U.S. and one Canadian Air Force installation. These areas all had nuclear weapons or missle silos. 

The witnesses were very credible, all military, most officers with some enlisted. There was an incident in the Jordanian desert. A couple of Air Force security personnel were told to guard something in a wooden box. They were not told what was in the box, but the box was large enough to fit a Volkswagen into. So while these guys were guarding this thing in the middle of nowhere, they saw lights that were not stars, satellites, planets, anything like that. These lights flew, hovered, did sharp 90 degree turns, and zipped around like no aircraft of any kind can do. Then it disappeared in a flash. Rumor mill was that there was a nuclear warhead in the box, but nobody knows to this day. 

These craft who/whatever they are seem to be very interested in our nuclear weapons and bases. Apparently they sometimes can also turn off all the missle silos in a second. To say that this is a national security issue is putting it mildly. It’s pretty scary all around.

The ETs were disarming the missile warheads. They know we kids shouldn't play with toys that can blow the Earth to smithereens.  They have told some people who communicate with them that they will never allow a nuclear war on Earth because what happens on this planet affects them as well.

[ChiefD]

I just got done watching episode four. Lou Elizondo went to South America. He visited the countries of Peru, Argentina, and Uruguay. These countries have all been hotspots for UFO’s for many years. Some of the UFO’s seen were similar to the tic tax shaped ones, but there were other orbs that also seemed to defy the laws of physics. There was a pilot in Peru that was flying a Soviet jet fighter in 1980. He saw something like a kind of orb. He engaged it and even shot at it, but it didn’t affect the craft at all. The craft did all kinds of things that no aircraft on this planet can do. 

Then he went to talk to people in the Patagonia region of Argentina who have been seeing strange craft for a very long time. Some of the things they talked about were mind blowing. He then went to Uruguay, where they have a program that has been in existence since 1979 and is modeled off the Project Bluebook days. Apparently, the U.S. military came to Uruguay and helped them set up their program. It’s a mystery as to why they would do that. There’s speculation that the U.S. was using Uruguay, and other countries to spy on others. It’s just kind of bizarre that they would do that.

[guohua]

Some of you may enjoy this video. It is only 17 minutes long so not to bore you.

[F2d5thCav]

@"ChiefD" 

Definitely intel ops going on in S America (among many other things).  Strange how remote that place seems even though it is connected by a land bridge to the USA.

We're there, Nazis were and may still be there, Soviet and Maoist movements, a lot going on.  I'd wager most Americans don't know how long we've been waging unconventional warfare there with some very unpleasant folks.  I became aware of that in the 1980s.

Some of what is reported is likely genuine phenomena, some of it not.

Lot of interesting stories come from that continent.

Cheers

[Snarl]

I'd wager most Americans don't know how long we've been waging unconventional warfare there with some very unpleasant folks.  I became aware of that in the 1980s.

My first 'gunfight' happened there.  Could be some other fella typing at a keyboard right now in some faraway land.  ;-)

[Schmoe1]

I just got done watching episode four. Lou Elizondo went to South America. He visited the countries of Peru, Argentina, and Uruguay. These countries have all been hotspots for UFO’s for many years. Some of the UFO’s seen were similar to the tic tax shaped ones, but there were other orbs that also seemed to defy the laws of physics. There was a pilot in Peru that was flying a Soviet jet fighter in 1980. He saw something like a kind of orb. He engaged it and even shot at it, but it didn’t affect the craft at all. The craft did all kinds of things that no aircraft on this planet can do. 

Then he went to talk to people in the Patagonia region of Argentina who have been seeing strange craft for a very long time. Some of the things they talked about were mind blowing. He then went to Uruguay, where they have a program that has been in existence since 1979 and is modeled off the Project Bluebook days. Apparently, the U.S. military came to Uruguay and helped them set up their program. It’s a mystery as to why they would do that. There’s speculation that the U.S. was using Uruguay, and other countries to spy on others. It’s just kind of bizarre that they would do that.

I'm about 5 episodes into the first season now, Hulu has all the episodes.

I've changed my opinion on Luis Elizondo, I think he's the real deal.  He seems to be really going at the heart of the matter, removing the stigma that surrounds serious UFO research.

I'm not AS hard on Tom Delonge either, I just wish he wouldn't have wasted my time with his ATS AMA and his Joe Rogan interview was pretty much the same, take a shot each time he says "can't tell you" and you'll be buzzing in 20 minutes.  He shouldn't have bothered doing interviews since he can't say anything important anyway.  He did say, on the Rogan podcast, that TTSA will be doing a display on some type of material they have, from supposedly a crashed spacecraft.  

I'm excited to see what they come out with.

[Mystic Wanderer]

I'm about 5 episodes into the first season now, Hulu has all the episodes.



I'm excited to see what they come out with.

@"Schmoe1", Hulu has the show?  What's the title?  I haven't even looked there; I don't get the History channel.
I'd love to watch it.

[Schmoe1]

I'm about 5 episodes into the first season now, Hulu has all the episodes.



I'm excited to see what they come out with.

@"Schmoe1", Hulu has the show?  What's the title?  I haven't even looked there; I don't get the History channel.
I'd love to watch it.

Ah I should have specified, I get live TV through Hulu, you can add whatever channels you want, and it has a sort-of on-demand.

If you're in the position to ditch cable, I have no regrets.  I have Verizon wifi, and have Netflix and Hulu with live TV

[Mystic Wanderer]

I'm about 5 episodes into the first season now, Hulu has all the episodes.



I'm excited to see what they come out with.

@"Schmoe1", Hulu has the show?  What's the title?  I haven't even looked there; I don't get the History channel.
I'd love to watch it.

Ah I should have specified, I get live TV through Hulu, you can add whatever channels you want, and it has a sort-of on-demand.

If you're in the position to ditch cable, I have no regrets.  I have Verizon wifi, and have Netflix and Hulu with live TV

@"Schmoe1",  I have Hulu and Netflix.  Is it on one of those?  If so, what's the title?

[Schmoe1]

I'm about 5 episodes into the first season now, Hulu has all the episodes.



I'm excited to see what they come out with.

@"Schmoe1", Hulu has the show?  What's the title?  I haven't even looked there; I don't get the History channel.
I'd love to watch it.

Ah I should have specified, I get live TV through Hulu, you can add whatever channels you want, and it has a sort-of on-demand.

If you're in the position to ditch cable, I have no regrets.  I have Verizon wifi, and have Netflix and Hulu with live TV

@"Schmoe1",  I have Hulu and Netflix.  Is it on one of those?  If so, what's the title?

Well if you have History channel on demand, it's called Unidentified- Inside America's UFO Investigation

[ChiefD]

@"ChiefD" 

Definitely intel ops going on in S America (among many other things).  Strange how remote that place seems even though it is connected by a land bridge to the USA.

We're there, Nazis were and may still be there, Soviet and Maoist movements, a lot going on.  I'd wager most Americans don't know how long we've been waging unconventional warfare there with some very unpleasant folks.  I became aware of that in the 1980s.

Some of what is reported is likely genuine phenomena, some of it not.

Lot of interesting stories come from that continent.

Cheers

Yeah, I agree with you on that. I heard some things when I was active duty Navy about some things people were doing down there, also in Panama, even though that’s not South America, but still.