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The Media & Their Narratives. - BIAD - 08-31-2022 Here's a fine example of Donald Rumsfeld's quote: "...because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones..." ................................................. The general narrative of the legacy media was that fifteen year-old Shamima Begum was a young girl who left the UK and went -with two other friends, to Syria in order to fight for ISIS. Later, she was discovered in al-Roj prison camp and it was revealed that she'd given birth to three children from her Dutch-born IS fighter husband, all of them died. With the MSM constantly suggesting Begum should be returned to the UK and the public should forgive her juvenile conduct, her case was presented to the the UK Government's UK Home Secretary Sajid Javid, who tackled the situation in the high courts and Begum was stripped of her British citizenship. Amira Abase (from left), Kadiza Sultana and Shamima Begum go through Gatwick airport, south of London, on 17th Feb. 2015 (Images on the right) Shamima Begum pictured in 2019 in her Islamic clothing and later photographed in March of 2021 wearing Western attire in Al Roj Camp, in northeastern Syria. The media jumped on the sensational story of a little Muslim girl and her friends sneaking away to fight for a belief and then being stuck in an awkward position. The public were urged to comment on the strange set of circumstances and it seemed the overwhelming consensus was that young Shamima had made her bed and therefore, should lay in it. Dressed in her black niqab, Ms Begum explained to the BBC camera how she'd been duped by the exciting aspects of ISIS dogma and that though it was later reported that she'd witnessed beheadings, stitched suicide vests and carried an AK-47’, she had been just a silly girl reading too-much off the internet. Now, that narrative is changing. Quote:Shamima Begum: Spy for Canada smuggled schoolgirl to SyriaBBC: RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - 727Sky - 08-31-2022 Maybe it is my age or whatever but IMO very few stories we hear are factual after all the contrived propaganda B.S. is scraped away. I would not shed a tear if they stood her and her ISIS buds up and slit their throats ..eye for and eye and all that biblical stuff !! hahaha RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - NightskyeB4Dawn - 08-31-2022 (08-31-2022, 01:36 PM)727Sky Wrote: Maybe it is my age or whatever but IMO very few stories we hear are factual after all the contrived propaganda B.S. is scraped away. I would not shed a tear if they stood her and her ISIS buds up and slit their throats ..eye for and eye and all that biblical stuff !! hahaha Because of “taqiyya” it is expected that Islamist will say whatever you want to hear, and are almost commanded to lie to infidels. So anything she says will always be suspect. I am am not saying for one second, that Islamist have a monopoly on lying. If that was the case, everyone would have to be considered an Islamist. The problem is that lying is be believed by many to be a tenant of Islam, expected, commanded, and rewarded. While in other religions it is frowned upon, to be avoided and punished. Another reason many also believe that in the end Satan will have his rule on Earth, and Islam will be the one world religion. I pray if this is to be, that this will happen after I have already left this Earthly plane. If not, I hope my demise will be short and swift. RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - Snarl - 08-31-2022 (08-31-2022, 02:13 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:(08-31-2022, 01:36 PM)727Sky Wrote: I would not shed a tear if they stood her and her ISIS buds up and slit their throats ..eye for and eye and all that biblical stuff !! Won't happen anytime soon ... no matter how many of 'em the NWO immigrated into the Western World. Lucky for Western Women for sure. Islam is less a form of religion as it is a form of governance. I lived under its tenants for a little more than 6 months back in the early '80s. To this day I am still impressed by the experience. As soon as I realized that nary a single Muslim would have a problem ending my life ... given the chance ... I fully embraced the role of Crusader. Never felt a moment's guilt over any of that either. RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - Bloodstained - 08-31-2022 (08-31-2022, 01:36 PM)727Sky Wrote: Maybe it is my age or whatever but IMO very few stories we hear are factual after all the contrived propaganda B.S. is scraped away. I would not shed a tear if they stood her and her ISIS buds up and slit their throats ..eye for and eye and all that biblical stuff !! hahaha That's way too old testament for me. I like forgiveness! RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - EndtheMadnessNow - 08-31-2022 (08-31-2022, 01:36 PM)727Sky Wrote: Maybe it is my age or whatever but IMO very few stories we hear are factual after all the contrived propaganda B.S. is scraped away. I would not shed a tear if they stood her and her ISIS buds up and slit their throats ..eye for and eye and all that biblical stuff !! hahaha As to your first line I'll definitely agree with you on that note! For those of us who may still be around just imagine what will be learned 20 years from now on the circa 2020 narratives. Course, that's assuming they don't outlaw reading/writing. As to old testament punishment style I would refrain on the pawns but, we do need a biblical style purge of those that wield the pen and their deep state bureaucratic cesspool of both gov & corp swamp creatures. Short refresher: False Flags and Media Propaganda RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - BIAD - 09-01-2022 In the particular article above, several questions arise that indicates how little the public know of what seems to be a recruiting of persuaded followers and acquisition of information of those who wish to join a certain ideology. This may all seem obvious to many, but the Begum-situation may be a glimpse into the dark world of 'false-flag' creation and how -what we perceive is the manner we live our daily lives, isn't founded on the typical assumption that our security agencies are believed to function. In hundreds of previous news-pieces, we were told that a 'terrorist'-group adhering to an extreme version of that religious belief had been formed by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian who later joined al-Qaeda and became a follower of Osama bin Laden. Operating in Afghanistan, the public were then informed that ISIS was slowly expanding their control to other areas of the globe. Deaths were many and often videoed to further the dread of these zealots. Bin Laden became the poster-figure to scare the west and became the instigator of the Twin Towers attack. Al-Zarqawi died and then Bin Laden was killed and the horrible headlines faded like Covid on a sunny day. If we take the BBC's investigation at face-value, it means the Canadian intelligence services -a country that is still a member of the Commonwealth of Nations, were involved in smuggling a British citizen into a known terrorist organisation for reasons still to be explained. So, even after all the UK's media banging-on about how a little girl from Bangladeshi parents had been groomed on-line by a charming and impressive boy from overseas and then went with her friends to meet him in Turkey and be finally sneaked across the border into Syria, we now discover all that was utter shite! The journey may have been true, but the background was based on actions from a fellow-member of the Commonwealth. Don't get me wrong, this has little to do with Canada as a nation, it shows how fake the established media-outlets are -including the BBC who also previously wrote articles backing the original Begum-narrative, and also hints at the duplicitous workings of security agencies from all countries interested in maintaining the terror threat. Simple questions: If a lickle girlie-girl from Bethnal Green, East London hadn't been targeted by whoever via the internet, would she have travelled the hour-long trip to Gatwick Airport, flew the almost five-hours to Turkey and then delivered herself and her two friends into the hands of total strangers? What convincement and from who, would allay the media-generated fears of a female Muslim teenager enough that she would embark on this journey, unless a confidence had been nurtured within the girls' secret-circle that the reported horrors wouldn't effect Shamima and her cohorts? Did you ever think of doing this at fifteen years of age, whilst being aware of the media's scary stories of beheadings, rape-rooms and the accepted perception of women within extreme Islamic dogma? Would such a (costly) undertaking be merely down to the excitement of living the life of a Jihad's wife and child-bearer? Begum states: "...We were just doing everything he was telling us to do because he knew everything, we didn't know anything..." in regards of the Canadian-agent, a victim's narrative. At no point does the girl state she was there to fight for a cause and in a letter supposedly seen by the BBC from Begum's lawyer... Quote:"...lawyer Mr Akunjee claims the family was not told that Shamima had been interviewed by police whenArchived BBC Source: How did the Police know these seven girls were being groomed on-line for exploitive purposes? How was it that three of that particular seven actually ceded to the convincing and then managed to travel out of the country after one of the group had fled and no alarm was raised by Customs? Wouldn't it have been prudent to warn the UK Custom officialdom? ............................................................................................ This part of the whole situation is merely the tip of what is a regular scheme maintained by Government-funded agencies. The trafficking narrative is a distraction from the simple tasks of moving people from A to B for reasons we're never supposed to know. Whether it is to use for false-flag operations or some truncated manner of gathering intelligence on an enemy, it does give the public a glimpse into the world of agencies that we're supposed to trust. Anyway, Castro's illegitimate-son said he'll look into it. Quote:Shamima Begum: Canada will investigate spy smuggling allegationsBBC: RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - BIAD - 09-06-2022 I occasionally hear or read established media-outlets -when asked about dubious stories, replying that 'some media' are sometimes guilty of stretching credulity, but always fail to mention who they are. Maybe it's a case of 'those without sin, cast the first stone' and the truth won't set them free, but put them out of work. Here's one -and I'm certainly no gun-expert, that may be an article that takes that trusting-bond between Journalists and readers, and shows things are not what they seem. Quote:SHARPSHOOTERThe Sun: RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - BIAD - 09-12-2022 I don't have an opinion on Chad Wolf and his occupation, but for Acosta's poor gate-keeping... Ooof! RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - Snarl - 09-12-2022 (09-06-2022, 09:00 AM)BIAD Wrote: I'm certainly no gun-expert, that may be an article that takes that trusting-bond between Journalists I'm not either, but the dude is posing with a shotgun ... not something capable of reaching out and touching a jet ... at the obvious height in the middle pic. -chuckle (09-06-2022, 09:00 AM)BIAD Wrote: RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - Ninurta - 09-12-2022 (09-06-2022, 09:00 AM)BIAD Wrote: I occasionally hear or read established media-outlets -when asked about dubious stories, replying that 'some media' It IS possible, but I don't believe this particular story. In Afghanistan, I saw a muj shoot down a Russian Mi-8 chopper with an ancient Enfield .303 probably left over from Kipling's Afghan war. here he is: He's standing on his chopper like a Great White Hunter after a safari. The rifle in his hands is not the one he used - that one he is holding is an SVD Dragunov captured out of the chopper. It seemed a fair trade, I reckon. The reason I don't believe this particular story is because that is NOT a rifle the gent is holding. It's a shotgun, and I don't believe anyone could take out a fighter jet with a shotgun. They taught us to take out aircraft with small arms by creating a cone of fire in front of the nose of the bird and letting them fly into it. The muj didn't do that. He got a lucky shot on a hydraulic line. But a shotgun doesn't have the reach. . RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - Snarl - 09-12-2022 (09-12-2022, 03:03 PM)Ninurta Wrote:(09-06-2022, 09:00 AM)BIAD Wrote: guilty of stretching credulity Which begs the question: Why sell us a tall tale? It's the over and over and over about it that gets me ... friggin' Clown World. RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - Ninurta - 09-12-2022 (09-12-2022, 06:51 PM)Snarl Wrote:(09-12-2022, 03:03 PM)Ninurta Wrote:(09-06-2022, 09:00 AM)BIAD Wrote: guilty of stretching credulity It was probably an oversight when they were crafting the tale (Ghost of Kiev, anyone?), but most readers won't know a shotgun from sheep shit, so it'll gain traction it does not deserve anyhow. Kinda like the tale of the nuclear plant that Russians are supposed to be occupying, "someone" is shelling, and everyone is pissing themselves over. If the Russians are occupying it, they sure ass hell aren't shelling themselves, so that leave only Ukrainians as the culprit. Instead of pissing themselves and pumping up the propaganda, why not just stop shelling it and solve that "dangerous" dilemma the easy way? The entire shit-show is propagandistic smoke and mirrors. If the Ukraine was on the right side of it and an up-and-up "democracy" as advertised, they wouldn't have to make shit up. . RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - BIAD - 09-12-2022 (09-12-2022, 08:21 PM)Ninurta Wrote: It was probably an oversight when they were crafting the tale (Ghost of Kiev, anyone?), but most readers won't know I believe the UK media are clearing the boards right now under the guise of the Queen's death (funny how everyone says THE Queen and not a Queen!) and prepping for their next 'all-stars' fear-porn! The Ukraine-thing is rarely mentioned except for land retrieved by Zelensky's men! RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - BIAD - 09-14-2022 It's 2022 and the media are now hinting that the Ukraine have successfully regained all the land up to the Russian border. So much for waking the great bear. Now it seems that Putin has invested some money in 'influencing' politicians in several countries since all the way back to 2014. How much...? Well, three hundred million dollars. A miserly $300, 000 000 in eight years and considering other 'gifts' of cash given by the west to other realms, one wonders what favours Vlad acquired for his paltry sum! Or is it just the use of the Bogeyman-name of Russia that makes such payments bad? Quote:Russia covertly spent $300m to meddle abroad - USArchived BBC Article: (more in link) Is this the same US intelligence that had Trump banged-to-rights on the collusion accusation?!! RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - Bally002 - 09-14-2022 Nek Minnut! China -v- Taiwan (and the rest of us.) Bally RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - BIAD - 10-24-2022 Any sign of a bias...?! (Remember, we're supposed to hold TV Presenters and Journalists in high-esteem!) Quote:BBC takes Martine Croxall off air for potential breach of impartiality over Johnson The Guardian: RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - Finspiracy - 10-24-2022 There are no leaders, if there is no followers. There is no authority, if no one obeys. Just a thought. Never mind. RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - BIAD - 10-28-2022 I was reading an essay by Ian Wylie in regards of my old place of employment when I recalled a comment from an ex-Editor and Managing Director of the same newspaper, when I asked why I was being made redundant. Sighing dramatically, the tipsy superior replied that I had been "a necessary cost" and now could be discarded -along with forty-or-so fellow employees. One of their requests was that I would show a sub-Editor how to perform my tasks in order to assist in keeping a local periodical that has been around since 1870. Of course, this part of the conversation was performed with a grateful, solomn affectation. So I set about explaining to the sub-Editor what I did every evening and how -if the functions were so superfluous, his service at the newspaper may also slide into the danger-zone. Being a Journalist, he assured me there was no way he could possibly become 'a necessary or unnecessary cost'. From Wylie's essay: "....In the newspapers of Harold Evans’ day, the editor was king. Today, what little power is left in local newspapers lies with the advertising executives, not the journalists. The salary of an experienced, specialist reporter is viewed as an unnecessary cost..." Source: Ian Wylie continues with blaming the internet for failing community-based newspapers, but could there be another reason? Journalism is dying... but is a technology entirely to blame? I guess many of us grew-up believing our own respective countries could sustain their populations with the most vital of fuel. That of food. Okay... some fare may be imported because of climate and consumer-based reasons, but the masses have always assumed that the very basics of comestibles were always grown and reared within their own countries. However, it seems this isn't true. The world obtains its everyday-goods from only two places on the entire globe... unless the media are not attacking the Devil' as some old-school Journalists liked to think themselves as such and merely writing garbage to fill columns. Sky News: Quote:'...According to the latest ONS data, wheat-based products like bread, cereal and pasta had some of the steepestSource: So it could be -not only that Journalists have been thrown into the same pit as myself due to the internet, but because their narratives have become so shallow and transparent. Were you aware that the Ukraine and Russia had been feeding you for all these years?! RE: The Media & Their Narratives. - Ninurta - 10-29-2022 Regarding wheat production, Russia and the Ukraine actually account for a combined total of 11.5% of world production, not the 33% claimed: Those figures are for 2020. Note that China alone accounts for 17%, more than the other two combined. But wait - there's more! Going forward, the Russia-Ukraine civil war has thrown sand into the wheel grease, and is affecting wheat market prices. Above that, the dearth of oil production will also affect them. Not just fuel for the combines, but also the fact that most fertilizer is manufactured from oil products as well. A double-whammy. Blame BidenHarris, OPEC+, and of course Russia and the Ukraine for rising prices that can be tracked back to the dearth of world oil supplies. .While Russia and Ukraine DO have a part to play in the squeeze upon us, they are not all by theri lonesome - the usual suspects are also turning the thumb screws on us. More information on wheat production: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_wheat_production_statistics https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/08/top-10-countries-produce-most-wheat/ . |