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RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - SimeonJ - 05-26-2022 https://patents.justia.com/inventor/aaron-salter Method and system for using the by-product of electrolysis Patent number: 9863309 Waste compactor system for vehicles Patent number: 9399552 Is it the same Aaron Salter which died in the buffalo shooting? Before they hide their killings behind ppl like Ted Bundy. RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - Ninurta - 05-26-2022 (05-26-2022, 02:43 AM)Snarl Wrote: Where did he get the money to buy the weapons? Some folks are discussing it, quietly. My son and I had that conversation last night. This SOB was only 18. Freshly turned 18. He lived with his grandma, the same one he shot in the face that day, and had moved in with her in March. He was unemployed, and mostly unemployable at any money-making job because he had dropped out of high school. Not the sort of person you generally find rolling in money. He bought 2 AR's within 3 days of one another. One on March 17 along with 375 rounds of 5.56x45mm, and another AR on March 20. One of his AR's was a Smith and Wesson M+P-15 ( I think that one lists for around 725 bucks) and the other was a Daniels Defense DDM4 V7 So where does an unemployed and mostly unemployable teenage high school dropout get that kind of cash all of the sudden? Inquiring minds want to know, but it smells funny all the way over here. . RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - Ninurta - 05-26-2022 (05-26-2022, 03:05 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote:(05-26-2022, 02:43 AM)Snarl Wrote: Where did he get the money to buy the weapons? See above post for a little background. The DDM4 V7 lists for over 2 grand when I checked it last night. the S+W MP-15 listed for 725.00 when I bought one back in 2016. The Daniel's Defense "rifle" doesn't even come with sights, meaning to my mind it's not even really a rifle, being unfinished right out of the box like that. To get just a plain old set of flip up iron sights for it will cost around 150 bucks. Optics run higher than that. He easily dropped 3K+ in three days time on just guns and accessories. All with no visible means of support. And he was shot by an off-duty CBP Agent who came in on the call. Dead men tell no tales. . RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - Ninurta - 05-26-2022 (05-26-2022, 03:39 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote: Well you definitely make a great point. Apparently he killed his grandmother, so I wonder if he lived with her and was robbing her blind. If not, who indeed provided the money? last I heard, he hadn't killed her, but he did shoot her in the face, then stole her car to make his escape and go to the school when she called the police. last I heard, she was listed as critical at the hospital. That may have changed by now. He did live with her, but only moved in in march, a few days before that massive cash outlay. . RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - kdog - 05-26-2022 So many questions about this whole situation. How did he have the funds to acquire the fire arms. Why is the gun shop he bought them from saying they never saw him before when he allegedly purchased them the week before. Was he being chased by police when he crashed his truck by the school. How was a unlocked door that is usually locked open ? Why were some police allowed in to get their kids while all the others remained outside for 90 minutes while keeping the parents from entering. I don't know if any of this is true, just what I have read so far. Rumors or truth ? RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - ABNARTY - 05-27-2022 UPDATE: If you weren't upset before, guess what? The video covers the timeline starting around the 1:10 mark and forward. I do not understand what the police were doing. At all. The only way it makes sense is if they were all cowards. Some of the LE on site went in the building to get their own kids out but would not confront the shooter in another classroom. They detained parents who saw the police were doing nothing and decided to go in themselves. RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - kdog - 05-27-2022 (05-27-2022, 02:03 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: UPDATE: I was watching it all as it unfolded. Started off as 2 dead, 13 kids sent to hospitals. I don't remember what time it was. All of a sudden, it was 20 something people dead. No ambulances. No injured in the hospital. All dead. It all seems a little off. RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - NightskyeB4Dawn - 05-27-2022 (05-27-2022, 02:37 AM)kdog Wrote:(05-27-2022, 02:03 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: UPDATE: They know how to play the manipulation game well. In fact they are masters of taking the information and tweaking it to morph it into anything they want to make it. They have made it clear to us for years that they are in control. RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - Michigan Swamp Buck - 05-27-2022 Here is my perspective on school security from my personal experience. I work at a local elementary and the doors require an electronic key fob. The front entrance and two parking area entrances use electronic locks that require the key fob. All other doors are locked from inside. Once into the front vestibule you are in view of the main office with a locked door and the doors to the main hallway, also locked, both require a key fob. Once in the building there are fire doors that isolate each wing at their hallway entrance. Each classroom can be locked down by key and manually with a door stop plate. There is an extensive CCTV security system as well. I don't think anyone at the school monitors it, it may just record though their server. All that security is great, except the teachers regularly leave side doors unlocked and windows open in classrooms. One of the front doors won't close and lock properly, so it is often unlocked. Also, the doors at the front are normally open during certain hours (indicated by a green light on the fob unit) with the inner hallway doors always unlocked now for some reason. The fire doors are never closed either, but are at the high school after school is out of session. I know these things because part of my job is to perform a security check of the entire building on a daily basis. However, when I began doing that, it was with the idea of preventing vandalism and thievery. After awhile, I began to think about tactical issues like if I were stuck here or there, what could I do, etc. I know that building inside and out, I know it's strengths and weaknesses, how to hide, or to break in or break out as the case may be. Now, esp. now, I look over my shoulder all the time. There has already been three incidences near the school this year, one of which I was unaware of happening during work (can't listen to or monitor news while working). There was a school lock down about 8 miles from my school just yesterday. It's a good strong rural community but more and more people are losing it, even out here. The application of this school's current (and fairly decent) security measures are lax in my opinion. I don't think the teachers and staff gives much consideration to the security or does any routine checks. They may do a drill on occasion, I'm not sure, but based on what I've seen, it will be chaos if something really goes down. As an example, the manual stop plates for the doors go into two holes in the cement floor in front of the inside of each room's doors to make it extremely had to break into the room when used. But there are three doors per room, and only one stop plate per room (a few have two) and many of the holes in the floors are packed with floor wax, crap and dirt to the point you can't get the stop plate to fit into the holes. That is the teacher's last line of defense and obviously not too many teachers ever tried to used the stop plate or have considered any of the defensive tactical aspects of their classroom. All I can say is, if teachers and staff don't take this seriously, how can they rely on security measures that require their participation to work? It must be some kind of "it can't happen here" normalcy bias or "the security is good, not my problem" attitude. RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - Schmoe1 - 05-27-2022 (05-26-2022, 10:44 PM)Ninurta Wrote:(05-26-2022, 03:39 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote: Well you definitely make a great point. Apparently he killed his grandmother, so I wonder if he lived with her and was robbing her blind. If not, who indeed provided the money? Well we have another school shooting where something stinks. In this shooting, a lot of things stink. Armed cops waiting outside while shots are fired at kids. An unemployed fuck who dropped 3k+ on gear, and the gun shop doesn't recognize him, even though he purchased it days ago. The timeline of the tweets from the school. The biggest thing I can't wrap my head around is all those cops doing nothing. And arresting parents trying to get in there? Makes me sick. How any of the coward fucks can look themselves in the mirror is beyond me. RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - Schmoe1 - 05-27-2022 (05-27-2022, 05:21 AM)Michigan Swamp Buck Wrote: Here is my perspective on school security from my personal experience. That sounds a lot like how my high school was. What do you think about having an armed guard at every school, who monitors some cameras to catch any incoming threats? I think it would at least buy time for law enforcement to arrive, granted they actually do anything. Best case, the guard eliminates the threat by themselves. RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - Ninurta - 05-27-2022 (05-27-2022, 05:29 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote:(05-27-2022, 05:21 AM)Michigan Swamp Buck Wrote: Here is my perspective on school security from my personal experience. If you're going to put one on the cameras, you'll need another for a roving patrol so that any miscreants can't be certain of his location at any particular point in time. And further, I'd say that camera/roving duty should be swapped out between the two every 2 hours or so, because watching those cameras can lead to boredom and complacency, which in turn could lead to missing something the watcher should have seen. I was a security shift supervisor for a CitiBank installation for a couple years. We had one guard at the entrance, one on the cameras, and a roving guard. The glaring flaw in their setup was that they never allowed for swapping out the camera guy nor gave him any relief other than two ten minute breaks per shift. he even had to eat his lunch watching the cameras, and that was bad juju. That was policy, and in my opinion a really bad one. They had all the tech in the world - 36 cameras, retinal scanners for entry, the whole shebang, but none of the people skills in their policies to run the human element of the security properly. There's more to securing a facility than gadgets and stuffed shirts making bad policy. . RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - Ninurta - 05-27-2022 Here's something I posted in the shoutbox. https://www.wsaz.com/2022/05/26/person-detained-after-shots-fired-call/ This past Wednesday evening, a man armed with an AR-15 opened fire on a party crowd in Charelston, WV, and a woman with a pistol dropped him like a pole axed steer before he could do his intended damage. You don't hear about the ones that got stopped in the MSM. You only hear about the body counts that the ones that DIDN'T get stopped rack up. I think it happens a lot more than folks realize, but since it doesn't bleed enough to lead and doesn't generate a body count, it tends to go against the citizen disarmament agenda they are trying to promote so the MSM buries it. And WV is a "Constitutional carry" state, so no government permission in the form of a CCW permit necessary to carry concealed. It's odd how their policies there tend to stop mass shootings cold in their tracks, ain't it? It's just possible that congress critters should get a clue from that. . RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - BIAD - 05-27-2022 Just as @"Michigan Swamp Buck" wrote, the school didn't adhere to the standardised manner these facilities are required to, these days. Quote:Uvalde shooting: Texas school gunman 'walked in unobstructed'BBC: RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - NightskyeB4Dawn - 05-27-2022 A lot of people are comparing this to Sandy Hook. I haven't looked to see what Alex Jones has to say. Okay, I am stirring the pot with that comment. From what I have seen so far, the attempts to save face, and cover their asses, is creating more questions and creating suspicion and doubt. This is a tiny town, in a poor area. I am sure they thought they were safe. A place where everyone knows everyone, is not going to see a threat in a familiar and known face. I don't think it odd that the guy was able to get into the school. My question falls into the category of how he was able to acquire the weapons, and ammunition, and how he manged to get them to the school while being chased. The police were locals. Never thought in a million years they would see something like this in their community. They were not trained, or prepared for this. My question here is why the same instinct to rush the building and, at least try, to save the children, did not overcome the police. Saving children is a primordial instinct, especially if the children are your children. Children of your own community. There are a lot of questions, and a lot of lessons to be learned, after the fact. I just hope they don't waste time pointing fingers, and get straight to the job of identifying their mistakes and correcting them. RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - Snarl - 05-27-2022 (05-26-2022, 10:23 PM)Ninurta Wrote:(05-26-2022, 02:43 AM)Snarl Wrote: Where did he get the money to buy the weapons? Funny enough ... that I went out and bought another lower yesterday. Wrecked a roll-pin and didn't finish putting it together though -chuckle- should have had more of those in the toolbox. They are such a bitch. If the Dembos aren't washed away during the mid-terms, my bet is they (and I mean Dems and RINOs) will be making their gun-grab before Biden leaves office ... if they've got the balls. These crazies and their shoot-em-ups at the schoolhouses are the perfect catalyst for open warfare on the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights. 1st worst idea ever: Not incorporating those enumerated rights into the Body of the Constitution ... so any breach breaks the country ... as it should be to any agreement 2nd worst idea ever: Not defining a penalty of death for _any_ infringement of enumerated rights (even the discussion of such ... fuck the 1st Amendment at that specific point ... if there is any exception, that should be it!!) to keep the country from breaking apart into individual states I have to admit, I am a little giddy at the concept of a 2d Revolution in this lifetime. RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - NightskyeB4Dawn - 05-27-2022 I think that plan is backfiring. People are thinking more about self protection than ever before. They know the police departments are overwhelmed, corrupt, or incompetent, and they know the government is a bigger threat to their ability to put food on the table or keep a roof over the heads of their children than ever before. Nobody in their right mind would allow the de-arming of the citizenry at this time. The only way people will willing give up their arms, is during a time of abundance and peace. We are in the middle of a shit storm. That would be like throwing your life preserver overboard to lighten the weight of the boat thinking that move would save you. If they are looking for a way to get the people to willingly pound their weapons into plows, this is not it. RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - Michigan Swamp Buck - 05-27-2022 Reply to Schmoe1: I think a security team is wise, wouldn't even have to be armed. Two guys, one on patrol and another monitoring the CCTV cameras. Both should have two-ways, maybe armed with a taser or pepper spray if it's a bad school district and some kind of body armor at least on hand if needed. My point is really that all teachers and staff should be involved. With all those eyes on the alert and a land line telephone in each room like they have, plus a school wide public address system, a shooter would never get in or at least everyone in the building can be alerted more quickly. They need a serious training course that includes situational awareness along with the lock down and evacuation procedures they currently have. There are really simple things too, like heavy curtains that can be closed over windows and doors to hide targets. Classroom arrangement of tables, cabinets and shelves for use in defensive cover. I know a couple of the male teachers have a baseball bat in their classroom, at the ready I suspect. I've often wondered who might be armed with something in their vehicle. Not allowed, but stored legally in your trunk, you may get away with the excuse you were headed to the shooting range after work. RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - Snarl - 05-27-2022 (05-26-2022, 09:15 PM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: Discussion of the Police State and how to address it was why I got the boot on TOS. Leaves me wondering in the long run. (05-26-2022, 09:15 PM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: Remember that time during Watergate when Edward Lansdale planned to fake the second coming of a pro-US Christ using submarine-mounted holograms to distract/manipulate the catholic population of Cuba long enough to stage and justify an invasion? I don't know how to lay this out in the best way. I _know_ God is real. "Belief" is a completely fucked up qualification. Either you have met him ... or you have not. Belief is an abject failure when it comes to God. I worked for Blackwater for 4 1/2 years (they paid damned good and that's my excuse). They taught me to kill without passion. And, for that, I am eternally grateful. Cops suck. There's no other definition ... and, I was one for 17 years ... so, I know what my very own eyes saw. They are tools. They (about 40%)(for the most part) never realize this. They're also one of the most corrupt bureaucracies in the country (next to school boards and our very own defined government establishments). If you ever take a cop's life ... don't worry about it. They ARE your enemy ... whether you know it (or they know it) is NOT relevant. As for the school shootings: Isn't it obvious yet, that the regular Joe shouldn't be trying to leverage the 'establishment' any longer these days? Stoopid damned sheople. RE: Yet Another School Shooting in Texas - EndtheMadnessNow - 05-27-2022 I think the play here isn't the government taking your guns; it *wants* you to have them. Every new shooting juices guns sales, which juices campaign contributions; and it allows them to institute ever more draconian laws violating all of your civil liberties except gun ownership. "But the bad guys will just get guns illegally!" Yes, that is intentional, too. They (congress/lobbyists) often cite this as the reason that the police need to be militarized...the 1997 North Hollywood shootout being the prime example. US Army has hidden or downplayed loss of firearms for years Guess what happened where the red line is... NRA to press on with Houston conference despite Texas school shooting The assault weapons ban ended in 2004. Republicans in Congress passed the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) in 2005, shielding gun manufacturers from lawsuits. Crime Bill Act of 1994 10-year limit on assault weapons expired. Joe Biden was a key author of that law. Quote:CIA's Secret 'Midwest Depot' Arms Cache Really in ... Texas? (May 5, 2014) Mae Brussell from her radio broadcast "Dialogue: Conspiracy", April 8, 1974: "The CIA has a big depot in the Midwest United States where they have all kinds of military equipment and all kinds of unmarked weapons and over the years, they bought everything they could get their hands [on] all over the world that is untraceable. That's why when Lawrence Kwong from a mental hospital in San Francisco shoots Ben Munson at KGO-TV and then kills himself and has told the detective he was ‘programmed to do it,’ the gun is untraceable." (start @ 24:00) https://youtu.be/1_uO_uSYPjQ?t=1440 https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/712712604276428800 https://twitter.com/RedKahina/status/1530220306480119810 BTW, Outdoor Life magazine named Uvalde County one of the best white-tailed deer hunting areas in the USA. Robb Elementary School, Uvalde TX Location: 29.199, -99.78 Palm Terrace Elementary School, Daytona Florida 29.199, -81.076868 I'm sure it's nothing. |