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UK To Build 13ft High Wall To Contain Migrants At Calais. - BIAD - 09-07-2016

Well, they laughed at Trump, but it seems his idea has some-kind of
resonance across the pond.

'Work on the 13ft high barrier could start as early as this month
and comes after a surge in migrant incursions around the port.

Britain is to build a "big new wall" at Calais as part of arrangements
to contain migrants, a minister has confirmed. The 13ft high barrier,
which would stretch for one kilometre, is the latest in a number of
measures to beef up security at the port.

Immigration minister Robert Goodwill told the Commons Home
Affairs Committee: "We are going to start building this big new
wall very soon"...'

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'..."We've done the fence, now we are doing a wall."
Earlier this week, lorry drivers, shopkeepers, farmers and police
officers took part in a blockade of the main motorway in Calais.

They demanded that the "Jungle" migrant camp outside Calais
is demolished. The camp is home to some 9,000 migrants living
in squalid tents and makeshift shelters.

The migrants have been throwing objects at vehicles travelling to
the port to slow traffic, so they can get on to lorries bound for the
UK.

Construction of the wall is expected to begin as soon as this month
and could cost taxpayers £2m, the Daily Telegraph reported...'
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RE: UK To Build 13ft High Wall To Contain Migrants At Calais. - guohua - 09-07-2016

13 feet won't be near tall enough, You tax payers have to pay for it, I'd demand a 50 foot fence that extends underground 50 feet as well and Electrify it!
People are Stupid, so Turn The Voltage UP!
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RE: UK To Build 13ft High Wall To Contain Migrants At Calais. - BIAD - 09-07-2016

(09-07-2016, 08:47 AM)guohua Wrote: 13 feet won't be near tall enough, You tax payers have to pay for it, I'd demand a 50 foot fence
that extends underground 50 feet as well and Electrify it!
People are Stupid, so Turn The Voltage UP!

It was mentioned in the morning news that there'll be plants grown on them to make it look nice!!
(By the way, can electrifying your ass be deemed a hobby?)
Just askin'
tinyshocked


RE: UK To Build 13ft High Wall To Contain Migrants At Calais. - guohua - 09-07-2016

(09-07-2016, 09:28 AM)BIAD Wrote:
(09-07-2016, 08:47 AM)guohua Wrote: 13 feet won't be near tall enough, You tax payers have to pay for it, I'd demand a 50 foot fence
that extends underground 50 feet as well and Electrify it!
People are Stupid, so Turn The Voltage UP!

It was mentioned in the morning news that there'll be plants grown on them to make it look nice!!
(By the way, can electrifying your ass be deemed a hobby?)
Just askin'
tinyshocked

That [Image: 44bc0f5792d96a79bd30ab771ccfa665.gif]or This, [Image: icaiC4E-K2I8O22GgX6uBG7GaDMItJTIx1HoW2wt...506-h285-n], They're Everywhere!


RE: UK To Build 13ft High Wall To Contain Migrants At Calais. - 1984hasarrived - 09-09-2016

And this will solve the problem?

It needs to be addressed at a different level - what is actually causing this influx, then deal with that.

This is a sticking plaster solution, and something else will have to be done in a few months.

This approach reminds me of the western approach to medicine as opposed to Chinese - you have a headache, take a tablet for that.  No effort is made to get at what is causing the headache, as is done in TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine).


RE: UK To Build 13ft High Wall To Contain Migrants At Calais. - guohua - 09-09-2016

(09-09-2016, 06:45 AM)1984hasarrived Wrote: And this will solve the problem?

It needs to be addressed at a different level - what is actually causing this influx, then deal with that.

This is a sticking plaster solution, and something else will have to be done in a few months.

This approach reminds me of the western approach to medicine as opposed to Chinese - you have a headache, take a tablet for that.  No effort is made to get at what is causing the headache, as is done in TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine).

That's True, Find The Cause or The Root of The Problem and Fix It There!
We Know what the Root of Our Problems is, It's Call Obama and it's Inflamed and Aggravated by A Puss Filled Cyst Call Hillary and Progressivism.


RE: UK To Build 13ft High Wall To Contain Migrants At Calais. - BIAD - 09-09-2016

(09-09-2016, 06:45 AM)1984hasarrived Wrote: And this will solve the problem?

It needs to be addressed at a different level - what is actually causing this influx, then deal with that.
This is a sticking plaster solution, and something else will have to be done in a few months...

I agree 1984, it's merely a political nod in the hope of endearing themselves to the majority who
voted to leave the EU. But, this is the level of social appeasement we're at -at the moment and as
you indicate, a more serious solution is needed to halt the 'migration'

Is it conflict-caused poverty that drives these people from their countries and if so, what should we do
as a responsible first-world country to solve that?

Is it the belief that western lands hold -not just a wealthier and more-settled environment, but a more
preferred educational system for the young of these war-torn families?

Who's causing these conflicts and why? How do we address a nation or a group of nations that desire
this destruction in Syria and Afghanistan?

There are many variables to consider long before we get to the possible darker ones of religious invasions
or simple covetousness of the infidel's possessions.

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Graffiti reading ‘France is dog life, England good life’ is seen on a
wall close to a makeshift camp near Calais.

'...Surely the answer, as the government says, is to intervene at the source
of the problem, with development aid, so that people don’t want to migrate?

That sounds like a win-win: if Britain uses its aid budget to help the countries
of origin grow, people will be more prosperous and will not risk their lives
trying to migrate to Europe.

Sadly, the evidence that development aid can in practice reduce migration
flows is thin to non-existent. In Syria, Britain decided not to intervene (although
it is now reconsidering). In Afghanistan and Iraq, the UK intervened militarily
at great cost and with less than universally successful results.

In Eritrea, the EU continues to provide development aid to a hugely repressive
regime, with no obvious influence on either its behaviour or migration flows.

That’s not to say that it’s not worth trying to use aid to create jobs and opportunities
in the countries of origin; but it won’t change things any time soon.

Doesn’t the EU need migrants anyway?

One of the ironies about Europe’s state of panic about migration across the
Mediterranean is that for a number of years policymakers have been warning
that Europe’s population is ageing and, in many countries, shrinking.

The EU’s total fertility rate is just over 1.5 – you don’t need to be a demographer
to work out the long-term implications. If it weren’t for migration, the EU’s working
age population would already be shrinking.

Last year, deaths exceeded births in both Greece and Italy – where the vast
majority of the migrants arrived – and in Germany, where the largest number
end up. Like that of the UK, Germany’s economy is creating jobs faster than
the natives can fill them...'
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It's not going to be easy.