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Rittenhouse Trial Rant - ABNARTY - 11-18-2021
I have nothing new to add to the evidence. I think we have all seen it and everyone has their opinion.
What is getting me hot is the external pressure on the jury, judge, and witnesses. Death threats and what not. Keyboard losers sending messages to those involved.
At what point is this not a mistrial? I though it was supposed to be unbiased. Yet we have the media fanning the flames the entire time and their mindless bots eating it up and threatening everybody they will be targeted after this is all done. A "fair" trial?
How is this not feeding into a degradation of law and order? We had the cops standing down and allowing arson and destruction. The governor refusing help until a week later. The prosecutor all over the map. The media gas lighting the entire situation. To what end? Qui bono?
Regardless of the outcome, I do not like what is happening. It goes to a bad place. The mob wins and justice loses.
RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - Ninurta - 11-18-2021
And let's not forget the prosecuting attorney pointing an AR15 at the jury with his finger on the trigger! If that's not juror intimidation, I dunno what is! It's no wonder the Marxist massses feel at ease issuing threats and jury tampering at leisure when even the prosecution attorneys do it and get away with it!
He should rightfully be sitting in jail right now, cooling his heels on a charge of felony jury tampering, yet here he is, walking free like all of the rest of us who have done no wrong.
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RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - Ninurta - 11-18-2021
(11-18-2021, 06:06 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: How is this not feeding into a degradation of law and order? We had the cops standing down and allowing arson and destruction. The governor refusing help until a week later. The prosecutor all over the map. The media gas lighting the entire situation. To what end? Qui bono?
And therein lies the rub. While the "authorities" were standing down and allowing all sorts of insane destruction, the People stepped in to do their damned jobs FOR them, and are now being branded "vigilantes". well shit, when someone doesn't do their job, someone else has to step in and do it.
That was THEIR homes, THEIR businesses, THEIR friends and families, THEIR livelihoods. If the people they hired to protect those thing refused to do so, then it fell to THEM to do it for themselves. When that is the case, it's not "vigilantism", it's doing the job their hirelings refused to do, a job that need doing, regardless of who has to do it.
Whomever was responsible for standing down law and order should be summarily fired, jailed for official malfeasance, and barred from ever holding a position above that of ditch digger ever again.
Instead, the Talking heads carry on about "vigilantes".
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RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - ABNARTY - 11-18-2021
(11-18-2021, 06:19 PM)Ninurta Wrote: And let's not forget the prosecuting attorney pointing an AR15 at the jury with his finger on the trigger! If that's not juror intimidation(1), I dunno what is! It's no wonder the Marxist massses feel at ease issuing threats and jury tampering at leisure(2) when even the prosecution attorneys do it and get away with it!
He should rightfully be sitting in jail right now, cooling his heels on a charge of felony jury tampering, yet here he is, walking free like all of the rest of us who have done no wrong.
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1. That is a good point.
2. Another good point. If they are allowed to get away with it, they will do it.
RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - Ninurta - 11-18-2021
(11-18-2021, 06:32 PM)ABNARTY Wrote:(11-18-2021, 06:19 PM)Ninurta Wrote: And let's not forget the prosecuting attorney pointing an AR15 at the jury with his finger on the trigger! If that's not juror intimidation(1), I dunno what is! It's no wonder the Marxist massses feel at ease issuing threats and jury tampering at leisure(2) when even the prosecution attorneys do it and get away with it!
He should rightfully be sitting in jail right now, cooling his heels on a charge of felony jury tampering, yet here he is, walking free like all of the rest of us who have done no wrong.
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1. That is a good point.
2. Another good point. If they are allowed to get away with it, they will do it.
I was trained that all guns are "loaded", all the time. I was once nearly killed by an "unloaded" gun that went off while it was being disassembled by another guy, and sent a slug about 3 inches past my left ear, so I take that axiom to heart. There is no excuse, much less any legitimate reason, to point a firearm at anything you do not intend to kill, much less with your FINGER ON THE TRIGGER.
That cannot sanely be considered anything less than jury intimidation with callous disregard of human life.
Furthermore, he failed to clear the weapon himself and inspect the chamber to make sure it was empty. He relied on his assistant to do that, like Baldwin. Where did that get Baldwin's director of cinematography?
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RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - ABNARTY - 11-18-2021
(11-18-2021, 06:29 PM)Ninurta Wrote:(11-18-2021, 06:06 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: How is this not feeding into a degradation of law and order? We had the cops standing down and allowing arson and destruction. The governor refusing help until a week later. The prosecutor all over the map. The media gas lighting the entire situation. To what end? Qui bono?
And therein lies the rub. While the "authorities" were standing down and allowing all sorts of insane destruction, the People stepped in to do their damned jobs FOR them, and are now being branded "vigilantes". well shit, when someone doesn't do their job, someone else has to step in and do it.
That was THEIR homes, THEIR businesses, THEIR friends and families, THEIR livelihoods. If the people they hired to protect those thing refused to do so, then it fell to THEM to do it for themselves. When that is the case, it's not "vigilantism", it's doing the job their hirelings refused to do, a job that need doing, regardless of who has to do it.
Whomever was responsible for standing down law and order should be summarily fired, jailed for official malfeasance, and barred from ever holding a position above that of ditch digger ever again.
Instead, the Talking heads carry on about "vigilantes".
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We are getting into a bigger issue here other than the trial but I see what you are saying.
I don't get it either. I want to protect my property and my life but I am a vigilante for doing so. I should just "take a beating" and be happy about it. If I die, oh well. There are people who will not do that. They will not take a beating and be happy about it. I am guessing that is what the folks fueling the beaters are counting on. A great opportunity to paint the opposition as something evil who require to be put down. Not a new formula at all. So who is doing it?
RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - Ninurta - 11-18-2021
(11-18-2021, 06:38 PM)ABNARTY Wrote:(11-18-2021, 06:29 PM)Ninurta Wrote: And therein lies the rub. While the "authorities" were standing down and allowing all sorts of insane destruction, the People stepped in to do their damned jobs FOR them, and are now being branded "vigilantes". well shit, when someone doesn't do their job, someone else has to step in and do it.
That was THEIR homes, THEIR businesses, THEIR friends and families, THEIR livelihoods. If the people they hired to protect those thing refused to do so, then it fell to THEM to do it for themselves. When that is the case, it's not "vigilantism", it's doing the job their hirelings refused to do, a job that need doing, regardless of who has to do it.
Whomever was responsible for standing down law and order should be summarily fired, jailed for official malfeasance, and barred from ever holding a position above that of ditch digger ever again.
Instead, the Talking heads carry on about "vigilantes".
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We are getting into a bigger issue here other than the trial but I see what you are saying.
I don't get it either. I want to protect my property and my life but I am a vigilante for doing so. I should just "take a beating" and be happy about it. If I die, oh well. There are people who will not do that. They will not take a beating and be happy about it. I am guessing that is what the folks fueling the beaters are counting on. A great opportunity to paint the opposition as something evil who require to be put down. Not a new formula at all. So who is doing it?
My initial reaction would be to say "the Marxists", but that is really too simplistic, and it is more nuanced than that.
It's the Oligarchs who are running the Marxists, who are in turn running the yapping dogs in the street. Orders are coming from higher-up, because shit rolls downhill.
Those Oligarchs, the Rockefellers, the Carnegies, the Duponts, the Rothschilds, the Club of Rome, the World Economic Whatsits, and more, are the ones making the plans and then handing them off to the Marxist "mid-level managers" for execution. Those mid-level managers or "cadre" are then whipping the unsuspecting masses into a frenzy, each level of the pyramid being led to believe THEY will somehow come out on top, or at least better off, in the end.
In reality, only the oligarchs t the top will be better off than they are now, and the masses at the bottom of the pyramid will be much worse off, if history is to be a guide. What little they have now will be siphoned off, passed THROUGH the mid-level managers, up to the Oligarchs at the top of the pyramid. Happens every time, from the feudalism of old to the modern feudalism of Socialism.
BUT - with that carrot dangled before their eyes, an empty promise of a brighter future for doing nothing but destroying everything that creates light for the future, the masses and mid-level managers dutifully venture forth to destroy on behalf of the Oligarchs, who laugh all the way to the bank at the gullibility of the proletariat they are in control of.
Now, if they can get the "justice" system in their pockets as they are making moves to do at the moment (Soros' buying up DA's across the nation, cops being "defunded" if they don't act according to orders from the oligarchs, etc) what will be there to stop them?
Only us "vigilantes" stand between them and world domination on a grand scale, so they gotta DO something about that!
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RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - GeauxHomeLittleD - 11-18-2021
What pisses me off is that the jury wasn't sequestered and they allowed screaming, threatening protesters close enough for the jury to hear them! And what is even worse is that many of those protesters are being paid to do so in order to scare the jury into finding Kyle guilty even though by true legal standards he should have never even gone to trial!
Paid protesters are NOT a conspiracy theory. When the Dallas protests/riots went down our oldest daughter and her he/she friend were PAID to be white human shields for BLM. They had to post videos of themselves provoking the police, trying to get them to fuck up on camera. Long story short: police didn't take the bait, daughter and tranny friend arrested and free lawyer got all of them out of jail and got charges dropped.
RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - Ninurta - 11-18-2021
(11-18-2021, 07:22 PM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: What pisses me off is that the jury wasn't sequestered and they allowed screaming, threatening protesters close enough for the jury to hear them! And what is even worse is that many of those protesters are being paid to do so in order to scare the jury into finding Kyle guilty even though by true legal standards he should have never even gone to trial!
Paid protesters are NOT a conspiracy theory. When the Dallas protests/riots went down our oldest daughter and her he/she friend were PAID to be white human shields for BLM. They had to post videos of themselves provoking the police, trying to get them to fuck up on camera. Long story short: police didn't take the bait, daughter and tranny friend arrested and free lawyer got all of them out of jail and got charges dropped.
It DOES seem a little suspect that they were not sequestered, and are being subjected to all manner of threats and intimidation with no repercussions to the threateners, now don't it? It's almost like there is some sort of plan in operation...
And one has to wonder just where the money is coming from to pay the protesters and buy the lawyers, eh?
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RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - BIAD - 11-18-2021
(11-18-2021, 07:36 PM)Ninurta Wrote: It DOES seem a little suspect that they were not sequestered, and are being subjected to all manner of threats and
intimidation with no repercussions to the threateners, now don't it? It's almost like there is some sort of plan in operation...
And one has to wonder just where the money is coming from to pay the protesters and buy the lawyers, eh?
The TV companies are heavily involved financing the excitement and considering the prosecution's delivery,
I jokingly suggest a comedy is being produced! But make no mistake, the TV media are connected.
RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - ABNARTY - 11-18-2021
(11-18-2021, 07:22 PM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: What pisses me off is that the jury wasn't sequestered and they allowed screaming, threatening protesters close enough for the jury to hear them! And what is even worse is that many of those protesters are being paid to do so in order to scare the jury into finding Kyle guilty even though by true legal standards he should have never even gone to trial!
Paid protesters are NOT a conspiracy theory. When the Dallas protests/riots went down our oldest daughter and her he/she friend were PAID to be white human shields for BLM. They had to post videos of themselves provoking the police, trying to get them to fuck up on camera. Long story short: police didn't take the bait, daughter and tranny friend arrested and free lawyer got all of them out of jail and got charges dropped.
Good point. Makes it seem even more funky.
RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - ABNARTY - 11-18-2021
(11-18-2021, 10:14 PM)BIAD Wrote:(11-18-2021, 07:36 PM)Ninurta Wrote: It DOES seem a little suspect that they were not sequestered, and are being subjected to all manner of threats and
intimidation with no repercussions to the threateners, now don't it? It's almost like there is some sort of plan in operation...
And one has to wonder just where the money is coming from to pay the protesters and buy the lawyers, eh?
The TV companies are heavily involved financing the excitement and considering the prosecution's delivery,
I jokingly suggest a comedy is being produced! But make no mistake, the TV media are connected.
This is my home state. My sister doesn't live too far from where this all went down. I have been to Kenosha numerous times.
I did not understand it all from the beginning. The riots that is. Generally, the folks who live there are not into rioting and burning down their town. I'm guessing it's that way where ever these riots happened. Most of the trouble makers came from else where. Mr. Missing Bicep did not live there. He came from elsewhere for example.
So what skin in the game do they even have? Other than the opportunity to cause chaos, gain their 15 minutes, and maybe collect a pay day. Especially when they know the police will not step in the way, if they are arrested they will be released at no cost, and the media will make them look like MLK.
This is not grass roots. Total astro-turf. And these losers are being played wholly. This is a campaign to make places bend the knee, nothing else because those throwing bricks and starting fires don't give a damn about anyone being oppressed. When whomever gets what they want, these duds are the first ones they will come down on. Put money on it.
RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - Ninurta - 11-18-2021
(11-18-2021, 10:57 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: This is not grass roots. Total astro-turf. And these losers are being played wholly. This is a campaign to make places bend the knee, nothing else because those throwing bricks and starting fires don't give a damn about anyone being oppressed. When whomever gets what they want, these duds are the first ones they will come down on. Put money on it.
That is something you can take to the bank, They cannot afford to allow the violent footsoldiers that won them their victory run loose to perhaps create trouble for THEM, too, so those are the first to be lined up against the wall in the aftermath of a win, during the purge and consolidation phase.
It goes that way because they have no intention of delivering on their promises, and these folks have shown their willingness to kill and destroy based on those promises. When delivery is not forthcoming, it's a reasonable assumption they will start killing and destroying again, so that spooks the oligarchs, so the grunts from the trenches get dealt with and purged to prevent that backlash.
It always happens that way, always has and always will... and these zeroes are too dense for that to sink in, despite the numerous examples from history. Just dangle something shiny in front of them and away they go, unthinking and hell bent on conquest. Then comes the purge, and suddenly they are wondering what the hell just hit them, despite having been repeatedly warned way ahead of time.
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RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - F2d5thCav - 11-19-2021
@"GeauxHomeLittleD"
You're very correct about paid protesters. They're in Europe as well. The same crew gets bussed around and is paid a bit to give the media fodder for their camera crews.
It is damaging to democracy. And it also has terribly cheapened the concept of legitimate protest.
I suppose I am better off for seeing the ugly truth behind so much of what goes on, but I am no happier for that.
Cheers
RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - BIAD - 11-19-2021
It's a true fact that local Journalists see a death or harm from someone from their area as a boon for filling column
inches and it would be called heartlessness in the normal way of life. But these guys don't see it like that, it's merely
an opportunity to do their job.
Anecdote-time: It must be coming up on fifteen years, when my son's Godfather was offered £20 [$26] by a Photojournalist
after a 'derby' soccer match (nearby town versus nearby town) that he attended, to punch another person after the match.
It's a shame that the general day-to-day life of people is no longer newsworthy and now requires emotive boosts to somehow
interest the general public. If we stripped out the fake news, a lot of people would be out of work.
The media have created a monster that they can't control and their lust to keep the current paradigm that you need to know
what is going on in the world is vital to your well-being, requires them to frighten those who think of wandering from the herd
and they'll use any means to do so.
I laughed this morning, when I saw a article about employee shortages at a Kent turkey farm. The pair of rum-old bastards who
owned the business explained to the blonde bimbo that due to the lack of 'migrant workers' and the youngsters of Britain being
unwilling to pluck and gut turkeys, they weren't actually concerned about sales at Christmas.
Which deflated the news-company's need for the report and narrative!
So a voice-over explained there was a shortage of 'foreign' labour and to prove it via visuals, showed a hand-written sign posted
on the fence of -presumably, the two old men's property. "Help Wanted"!. It was a small plot of land, not a farm and not reliant on
overseas employment. Just a poorly-created bit of theatre to get them to the weather-slot.
The reality we know is out there, you just can't see it through a TV or the internet! (And is far-less entertaining!)
RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - Minstrel - 11-19-2021
(11-19-2021, 10:14 AM)BIAD Wrote: It's a true fact that local Journalists see a death or harm from someone from their area as a boon for filling columnConsidering how much news they have to overlook and censor, its amazing they get anything published nowadays.
inches and it would be called heartlessness in the normal way of life. But these guys don't see it like that, it's merely
an opportunity to do their job.
Anecdote-time: It must be coming up on fifteen years, when my son's Godfather was offered £20 [$26] by a Photojournalist
after a 'derby' soccer match (nearby town versus nearby town) that he attended, to punch another person after the match.
It's a shame that the general day-to-day life of people is no longer newsworthy and now requires emotive boosts to somehow
interest the general public. If we stripped out the fake news, a lot of people would be out of work.
The media have created a monster that they can't control and their lust to keep the current paradigm that you need to know
what is going on in the world is vital to your well-being, requires them to frighten those who think of wandering from the herd
and they'll use any means to do so.
I laughed this morning, when I saw a article about employee shortages at a Kent turkey farm. The pair of rum-old bastards who
owned the business explained to the blonde bimbo that due to the lack of 'migrant workers' and the youngsters of Britain being
unwilling to pluck and gut turkeys, they weren't actually concerned about sales at Christmas.
Which deflated the news-company's need for the report and narrative!
So a voice-over explained there was a shortage of 'foreign' labour and to prove it via visuals, showed a hand-written sign posted
on the fence of -presumably, the two old men's property. "Help Wanted"!. It was a small plot of land, not a farm and not reliant on
overseas employment. Just a poorly-created bit of theatre to get them to the weather-slot.
The reality we know is out there, you just can't see it through a TV or the internet! (And is far-less entertaining!)
RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - Ninurta - 11-19-2021
(11-19-2021, 03:37 PM)Minstrel Wrote: Considering how much news they have to overlook and censor, its amazing they get anything published nowadays.
The key is in the spin-up. You don't have to censor it if you can spin it in the right direction!
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RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - BIAD - 11-19-2021
(11-19-2021, 03:37 PM)Minstrel Wrote: Considering how much news they have to overlook and censor, its amazing they get anything published nowadays.
It's the general perception that the public has regarding the MSM that catches me. Ignoring the self-generated 'news'
that is really just decoration to allow a chosen performer to entertain via wordage that evokes emotional study, it's the
lack of accountability that agencies -supposedly in place to hold high ethical standards in Journalism, allow these costly
outlets to churn out their wares.
I often wonder if it isn't really poor journalism being pumped out to those who still listen, but actually a well-funded, politically
-agreed performance of selected artistes for the public purely for distraction purposes.
Hence, clear of accusations from genuine departments of factual-information management and rules governing false conduct
in the media industry -if they ever existed at all.
Who really owns the airwaves...? Who owns the satellites? Who owns the internet?
Movie stars get paid big money for the acting abilities, News Presenters get paid big money for reading an auto-cue. Odd!
The behaviour surrounding the current Rittenhouse trial isn't such a stretch from an episode of 'Judge Judy' or a story by
John Grisham.
RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - Ninurta - 11-19-2021
Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty on all charges. I hope they gave those 500 Guardsmen loaded magazines this time, unlike the unloaded guns they send them to the border with.
USA Today already trying to spin out the propaganda over the verdict. Headline: "Kyle Rittenhouse may be innocent, but the assault-style rifles are (once again) guilty in deadly shooting" First of all, NO ONE is ever found "innocent" in US courts. One is either "guilty" or "not guilty", because the law presumes no one is "innocent". Second, no rifle, "assault style" or otherwise, was on trial.
Get ready for the fireworks now that justice has prevailed - it wasn't the "justice" the SJWs were rooting for.
And that is how I know that they have no idea of what "justice" is.
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RE: Rittenhouse Trial Rant - ABNARTY - 11-19-2021
(11-19-2021, 07:42 PM)Ninurta Wrote: Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty on all charges. I hope they gave those 500 Guardsmen loaded magazines this time, unlike the unloaded guns they send them to the border with.
USA Today already trying to spin out the propaganda over the verdict. Headline: "Kyle Rittenhouse may be innocent, but the assault-style rifles are (once again) guilty in deadly shooting" First of all, NO ONE is ever found "innocent" in US courts. One is either "guilty" or "not guilty", because the law presumes no one is "innocent". Second, no rifle, "assault style" or otherwise, was on trial.
Get ready for the fireworks now that justice has prevailed - it wasn't the "justice" the SJWs were rooting for.
And that is how I know that they have no idea of what "justice" is.
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Hallelujah!!!
Now that kid needs to get out of town ASAP. Same with the jury.
The media can take a flying leap with all their crap.