Quote:Hacker says U.S. military has secret space program besides NASA
A computer hacker says he’s seen evidence that suggests the United States military has its own secret space program, separate from NASA’s space effort.

Gary McKinnon, a computer whiz from the United Kingdom, says he will talk about it at a Las Vegas symposium the weekend of July 21nd-23rd.
  
According to McKinnon, in 2001, while he was searching online for evidence about UFO’s, he accessed classified NASA computers a total of 13 times.  But instead of evidence of UFO’s, McKinnon found files about a secret space program operated by the U.S. Navy, he said.


McKinnon says he even found the names of the off-planet crew members.  The president of the Mutual UFO Network, which meets in Las Vegas this week, told the I-Team what McKinnon uncovered.


“Basically, Donna Hare, who had worked for NASA, told him about specific buildings where they were airbrushing UFOs out of photographs before releasing them to the public for NASA, said Jan Harzan, of the Mutual UFO Network.

“He wanted to go find that stuff, and in his search for that information, this is what he stumbled upon; literally a secret space fleet within the US Navy.”
Mckinnon was arrested for the computer break in, and the U.S. tried to extradite him for trial, but after an 8-year legal battle, the British government refused to turn him over.
   
Saturday at noon, McKinnon will speak via skype to the Mutual UFO Network Symposium, which meets in Las Vegas Friday through Sunday.
   
Several other speakers will address different aspects of the alleged secret space program.  For more information on the event go here.[/url]

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(06-15-2021, 10:22 AM)Bally002 Wrote: I'm surprised in the circumstances and information as outlined that this person hasn't met with an untimely demise/accident. Or, am I wrong.

Information as such that is perceived as a threat to National interest and secrecy generally ends up in something misfortunate.

Kind regards,

Bally:)

(06-15-2021, 05:06 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: Gary McKinnon appears to be telling the truth, in my opinion.  Why would someone come out telling lies like this that could possibly land him in jail for the rest of his life, or worse?  He felt the world had a right to know, and I agree with him. 
I've seen many interviews and others talking about McKinnon over the years, and I can't wait to see what all is said in this upcoming zoom call. This should be good.  

(06-15-2021, 10:22 AM)Bally002 Wrote: I'm surprised in the circumstances and information as outlined that this person hasn't met with an untimely demise/accident. Or, am I wrong.

Information as such that is perceived as a threat to National interest and secrecy generally ends up in something misfortunate.

Kind regards,

Bally:)

(06-15-2021, 06:26 PM)Ninurta Wrote: There are more than one way to silence a message that isn't for public consumption.

With that said, another possible explanation is that he didn't see anything at all, and is just making it all up, in which case there is no need to discredit or silence him - he'll do that to himself, eventually, and until then no actual national security secrets would have been released.

Occam's Razor.

(06-15-2021, 04:43 PM)BIAD Wrote:

(06-15-2021, 10:22 AM)Bally002 Wrote: I'm surprised in the circumstances and information as outlined that this person hasn't met with an untimely demise/accident. Or, am I wrong.

Information as such that is perceived as a threat to National interest and secrecy generally ends up in something misfortunate.

Kind regards,

Bally:)

The American federal authorities were demanding that McKinnon was to be handed over to them after the trial for his crimes,
but due to an appeal to the House of Lords in the UK and further rallies of support, I believe he was too-much in the limelight
for any nefarious acts from certain agencies.

An extradition was blocked by Britain -blaming concerns over McKinnon's Asperger's syndrome and other mental issues.
His human rights were stated to be relevant and to date, Gary McKinnon remains free.

I also believe he saw what he said he saw and knowing personally how little -in regards of computer savvy, powerful people
find things like passwords beneath them, the access he gained would be fairly easy.

(06-15-2021, 06:26 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(06-15-2021, 10:22 AM)Bally002 Wrote: I'm surprised in the circumstances and information as outlined that this person hasn't met with an untimely demise/accident. Or, am I wrong.

Information as such that is perceived as a threat to National interest and secrecy generally ends up in something misfortunate.

Kind regards,

Bally:)

He's too high profile, too much in the public eye. In such cases, "disappearances" and "unfortunate accidents" are problematic avenues of approach. They raise too many questions, create too many suspicions. Generally, in cases like that, instead of that sort of permanent solution, the subject is discredited and made to appear bonkers instead.

There are more than one way to silence a message that isn't for public consumption.

With that said, another possible explanation is that he didn't see anything at all, and is just making it all up, in which case there is no need to discredit or silence him - he'll do that to himself, eventually, and until then no actual national security secrets would have been released.

Occam's Razor.

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(06-15-2021, 05:28 AM)guohua Wrote: Now with keeping that in the back of your head, our Navy Department is now releasing patents for Cold Fusion and  Gravity Waves that helps us travel through space and watr and even provides a forcefield.
NOW, remember what Mr. Rich said back in 1993, "We have the Techknowledge to take EWT Home." That was back in 1993 and they are just now telling us about it all,,,, Why?
Maybe because of all those UFO tapes being released.
 Your Thoughts?

(06-15-2021, 09:42 PM)Bally002 Wrote:

(06-15-2021, 06:26 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(06-15-2021, 10:22 AM)Bally002 Wrote: I'm surprised in the circumstances and information as outlined that this person hasn't met with an untimely demise/accident. Or, am I wrong.

Information as such that is perceived as a threat to National interest and secrecy generally ends up in something misfortunate.

Kind regards,

Bally:)

He's too high profile, too much in the public eye. In such cases, "disappearances" and "unfortunate accidents" are problematic avenues of approach. They raise too many questions, create too many suspicions. Generally, in cases like that, instead of that sort of permanent solution, the subject is discredited and made to appear bonkers instead.

There are more than one way to silence a message that isn't for public consumption.

With that said, another possible explanation is that he didn't see anything at all, and is just making it all up, in which case there is no need to discredit or silence him - he'll do that to himself, eventually, and until then no actual national security secrets would have been released.

Occam's Razor.

.

It's not in the news over here now.  I do remember something a little while back where the states were seeking his extradition for leaking secrets.

Your last paragraph is well written, intriguing and kind of answers a lot for me.

Cheers,

Bally:)

Quote:SOLAR WARDEN: THE SECRET SPACE PROGRAM BUILT WITH ALIEN TECHNOLOGY

Quote:We now have the technology to take ET home.” – Ben Rich, CEO of Lockheed Skunk Works, 1993

(06-16-2021, 08:33 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Just to be "that guy" 

I completely understand the desire of the American authorities to have wanted McKinnon imprisoned.

Look at it from their viewpoint:  If McKinnon's "justification" is accepted, then ANYONE caught hacking into a government computer system could simply plea "I was looking for the truth about UFOs!"

Misses the point entirely.  Those systems are not open to public access.  Hacking them is a crime, period.  If McKinnon had done that with sensitive Russian systems, let's just say he would have had a deadly encounter with the Russian secret service.

Not to mention I seriously doubt any truly informative commentary about UFOs would be found on government systems.  I am more convinced every day the government's "knowledge" of that phenomenon is nothing more than collections of data and speculation no more informed than what we do on this forum.  As to "terran space fleets" ... well, for all we know, what McKinnon found was a honey pot designed to trap people like him.

Cheers

(07-16-2021, 11:36 PM)guohua Wrote: The Secret Space Program and Recruitment.