Quote:April 12, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — On April 5, 2007, Time Magazine asked the question, “Should Incest Be Legal?” Three years later, when Columbia University professor David Epstein was arrested for a three-year, consensual affair with his adult daughter, his attorney noted, “It’s OK for homosexuals to do whatever they want in their own home. How is this so different? We have to figure out why some behavior is tolerated and some is not.” Not surprisingly, some Columbia students asked why any sexual acts committed by consenting adults should be considered a crime.

Today, that question is being asked again, this time in the context of a lawsuit reported by the New York Post on April 10. Specifically, “A New Yorker who wants to marry their own adult offspring is suing to overturn laws barring the incestuous practice, calling it a matter of ‘individual autonomy.’”

“‘Through the enduring bond of marriage, two persons, whatever relationship they might otherwise have with one another, can find a greater level of expression, intimacy and spirituality,’ the parent argues in the Manhattan Federal Court claim filed April 1.”


Really now, in light of the prevailing logic that love is love, since this is consensual and between adults, why not?

One immediate answer, aside from the obvious revulsion and horror which quite naturally greets this request for “marriage,” is that it is biologically dangerous. Any children produced as a result of this union could have serious genetic issues.

In this case, however, we are told that this is not an issue. According to the filing, “The proposed spouses are adults. The proposed spouses are biological parent and child. The proposed spouses are unable to procreate together.” The lawsuit even uses the acronym “PAACNP,” standing for “Parent and Adult Child Non-Procreationable.”

(04-12-2021, 10:51 PM)Ninurta Wrote: From a purely biological, scientific viewpoint, homosexuality makes more sense, and is safer for the species, than incest. Homosexuals do not reproduce. Incest allows for reproduction, which weakens the species. Flaws in DNA are intensified in children of incestuous relationships. they are magnified, because the DNA being passed on is substantially the same, without any admixture that would weaken and dilute the bad genes.

I give no shits about their "greater level of expression, intimacy and spirituality", I don't want their 12-fingered, two-headed and still halfwit (even counting both heads) kids mixing with my grandkids in the schoolyard. That removes it from the realm of "the privacy of their own home".

So, when they ask "if homosexuals can do it, why can't parents and kids?" tell 'em "because... science". 

I guess that is one way to find out how strong their pseudo-commitment to "science" is...

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Quote:Countries Where Incest Is Legal 2021

Incest in the U.S.

In the United States, incest is a statutory crime that is often classified as a felony. Rape and incest are considered separate crimes as mutual consent is required for incest and not for rape. When one person is under the age of consent recognized by law, it is considered rape. Additionally, sexual relations between two people of half-blood are often prohibited and those related by affinities, such as step-parents or in-laws.


State laws on incest vary. The majority of states have laws that make incest illegal. The punishments associated with engaging in incest vary by state. Rhode Island and New Jersey do not currently have any laws against incest between consenting adults but prohibit marriage for incestuous relationships.

Incest Legality Around the World


The legality of incest varies from country to country. In some countries, incest is punishable by the death penalty, such as in Brunei, Iran, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, the United Arab Emirates, and Sudan (if same-sex relations). In Afghanistan, incest between consenting adults results in the death penalty in Taliban-controlled territories.


In Italy, incest is only illegal if it provokes public scandal. In this case, it can be punishable from two to eight years in jail.


Twenty-two countries around the world have not criminalized incest.

In Spain and Russia, consensual incest is fully legal; however, people who are related as siblings, half-siblings, a stepparent, and a stepchild may not marry.


Incest is also not strictly prohibited under Portuguese law.
Additionally, no laws prohibit consenting relatives from having sexual relations in France, Belgium, and Luxembourg. The people of the Netherlands are allowed to engage in incest as well but cannot get married.


In Greece, incest is illegal for adults, but there is no law prohibiting minors from engaging in incest. In Serbia, Slovenia, and Lithuania, incest is illegal as long as both persons are over 18. In Serbia and Slovenia, incest is illegal if one or both of the person is an underage relative by blood or an underage sibling.

In Israel, incest is legal if both persons are over 21 years old. It is illegal if one or both of the persons is an underage relative by blood or adoption.
Incest is also legal in Argentina, Brazil, India, the Ivory Coast, Japan, Latvia, South Korea, Thailand, and Turkey.
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(04-13-2021, 12:06 AM)guohua Wrote: I will not comment on this because I feel it is wrong in so many ways.

Quote:But if any states do Fully Legalize Incest it will be California and New York That is JMHO.

Quote: I found this though and it may surprise you that a few countries do not consider this totally illegal.

(04-12-2021, 10:51 PM)Ninurta Wrote: From a purely biological, scientific viewpoint, homosexuality makes more sense, and is safer for the species, than incest. Homosexuals do not reproduce. Incest allows for reproduction, which weakens the species. Flaws in DNA are intensified in children of incestuous relationships. they are magnified, because the DNA being passed on is substantially the same, without any admixture that would weaken and dilute the bad genes.

I give no shits about their "greater level of expression, intimacy and spirituality", I don't want their 12-fingered, two-headed and still halfwit (even counting both heads) kids mixing with my grandkids in the schoolyard. That removes it from the realm of "the privacy of their own home".

(04-13-2021, 03:07 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: Sure... OK. That's a little weird. 

Normally, it's a good day when the government stays out of peoples' business for the most part.  

Normally, I am good with whatever consenting adults do is their business as long as they are not hurting someone or infringing on other's liberty. 

But today? When did this modified relationship begin? Was the child still a child? If not, what is the mental state of the person now? Do they plan on having children (grandchildren? both?)? Is that fair to said possible children?