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[Scotland] Gaelic-Speaking Only Will Get A House. - BIAD - 01-06-2021 The fracturing continues... Quote:SNP minister condemned for plan to BAN English-only speakers from Scottish housing estatesThe Express: RE: [Scotland] Gaelic-Speaking Only Will Get A House. - NightskyeB4Dawn - 01-06-2021 This is a hard topic for me because I am in the middle of this and I can see the pros and the cons on both sides. I have family and friends that are still on the reservation. Most have a foot in and a foot out. It is heartbreaking to lose the cultural and language of any group, considering that knowledge, history, and beauty is lost forever when that happens. But most don't have the luxury of being able to live in two worlds, so they are forced to have to choose a side. My grandmother was of the Pima tribe, in Arizona. I don't know one word of her native language, I was two years old when she died of breast cancer. My mother and her siblings were not taught it, because it was considered an obstacle in the society where they already had enough challenges for survival. I grew up hated by some of my relatives and we were frequently called half breeds, so I personally know this particular burden. Quote:What’s Left Today RE: [Scotland] Gaelic-Speaking Only Will Get A House. - BIAD - 01-06-2021 (01-06-2021, 07:54 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: This is a hard topic for me because I am in the middle of this and I can see the pros and the cons on both sides... No problems, I dropped this piece in to see if -what it was originally designed for, would work or whether Gordi or any fellow Scotsman might see through the veneer of dividing nations. The reason behind the article I posted is actually two-fold. One is the supposed media-ratings narrative of the nationalistic politics of Scotland demanding that those south of Hadrian's Wall shouldn't be able to purchased property in Scotland. That same narrative could be stretched to frowning at migrants coming ashore in England being transported into Scotland to save political face in Westminster -London. But that's a guess. I believe the actual complaint from Ms Forbes is to do with land-banking. In many areas of the North-East England and Scotland, large estates created by the town Councils are uninhabited due to those same Council groups having to accept a certain law put in many years ago. Council estates in the UK are traditionally homes for low-paid families known as the true working class. Often, these families couldn't afford to get on the housing market and so took to paying rent to these governing bodies and any repairs and upgrades are performed by the Councils. The 'Right-To-Buy' law allowed families to purchase the Council-owned property and for a discount too. This was seen as a 'step-up'... a way to set struggling families on a better foothold with the possible option of selling their property to upgrade to a larger home in a possibly better neighbourhood. However, what was discovered in many cases is that whole streets were bought-out by those who wished to deposit part of their wealth in property and had no intention of living in the houses. So the Council funds the building of the estates for benevolent reasons and people -usually from outside of the UK, buy the residents who need the money and the area remains barren of poor families who need a place to live. So... Ms Forbes may not actually be talking about those who speak with an English accent, but someone who has never visited the British Isles and wishes to keep their monies out of the banks. But the MSM aren't going to say that because many of the London-based Journalists own property around the south for the same reasons. RE: [Scotland] Gaelic-Speaking Only Will Get A House. - Ninurta - 01-06-2021 Butbutbut... Will I still be able to buy a square foot of Scotland and declare myself a Laird? Or will I have to learn Gaelic first? Does Irish Gaelic count, or Manx? Or does it have to be Scottish Gaelic? I have a nephew that speaks Scots Gaelic. he's an American citizen, served in the US Army, but would this give him an "in", despite those disabilities? Inquiring minds want to know! ============================================== @"NightSkyeB4Dawn" - I speak a little Shawnee, but wouldn't class myself as fluent in it. At last count, there were only 260 or 270 people left who are fluent, and as far as I know, all of them are in Oklahoma, where one of the subdivisions have started a school in Shawnee, with apparently little success. The number of fluent speakers has stayed constant now for 20 or 30 years or so, instead of increasing. I understand what you are saying about trying to stand with a foot in both worlds - it seems that when you do that, both worlds tend towards a total rejection of you, leaving you standing with nothing but your own two feet. And yes, it's heartbreaking. Having the blood or speaking the language or observing the culture tends to cut no ice with most Oklahoma tribes. Instead, they point to the Federal Government approved Dawes Roll, and if you can't point to a name on it and prove a connection, then you're out. So you can't be "one of them" unless the Federal government says you can, and there is damned little chance of that ever happening, given the Federal habit of chipping away at the tribes. I got state recognition in NC, but not Federal, so everywhere outside NC I'm as white as rice. Funny how crossing an invisible state line can change you entire makeup, isn't it? But maybe if I learn Gaelic I can be a Scotsman? . |