Quote:Teenage Boy Given Estrogen in Juvenile Hall to Treat Behavioral Disorder



Maria Lianos-Carbone
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The Mighty•July 15, 2020

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What happened: While detained at a juvenile hall in Los Angeles, a 16-year-old boy was given estrogen to treat a behavioral health disorder, according to a lawsuit. Estrogen is not currently an established treatment for the boy’s diagnosis.

The teenage boy, who has not been identified, was diagnosed with oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) two days after he was arrested and held at Eastlake Juvenile Hall in June of last year. The doctors’ ODD diagnosis was “correlated with elevated levels of testosterone and delinquency in male youths,” according to the lawsuit filed against doctors Danny Wang and David Oh and the County of Los Angeles.

The boy was prescribed 13 doses of the hormone estrogen “without obtaining voluntary and informed consent” of himself or his parents, according to the filing with the court. The lawsuit described the treatment as “experimental.”

Estrogen is not a treatment for ODD. I can’t be more emphatic about that. You won’t find a reference anywhere that supports the use of estrogen for ODD. — James McGough, a professor of clinical psychiatry at UCLA, Los Angeles Times

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Later, the boy developed female breast tissue, and was diagnosed with gynecomastia, “which is the enlarging of his breast tissue, that did not exist prior to taking the estrogen pills.” He also experienced “psychological, emotional, and cognitive symptoms of depression, anxiety, insomnia, inability to concentrate, attention problems, and headaches.”

ODD is a behavioral condition that is mostly diagnosed in childhood and is sometimes diagnosed in patients with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). ODD is normally treated with therapy, and not estrogen, said James McGough, a professor of clinical psychiatry at UCLA.

Quote:Obscene: Boy, 16, given estrogen as "experimental" treatmt for behav disorder (oppositional defiant disorder) while in LA juvey hall. Medically unsafe & uncalled for.https://t.co/DhakF2OIoJ
In decent, lawful world, docs do not "experiment" on children held captive by the state pic.twitter.com/SgCj2w6InN
— Amy Alkon (@amyalkon) July 15, 2020

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The Frontlines: Many times, young people who act out are diagnosed with conditions like ODD when in reality, they’re trying to regulate difficult emotional experiences. According to Child Mind Institute, there are many common psychiatric symptoms that are easily misinterpreted in children and teenagers, leading to misdiagnosis and improper treatment.

• Two of the most common diagnoses in school settings are ODD and ADHD, both of which include symptoms many people consider “acting out.” In children and teenagers, “acting out” behaviors can be signs that a child is having difficulty and needs support
  
• With trauma, children and adolescents can experience irritable or aggressive behavior, hypervigilance, problems in concentration, to name a few symptoms, which are similar to ADHD, says the American Counseling Association.
  
• In addition, children and adolescents can have traumatic experiences that lead to mental health problems, including post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). However, diagnosing PTSD in children is challenging, according to National Institutes of Health.
  

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A Mighty Voice: Our contributor, Siobhán, shared how her misdiagnosis almost made her lose everything. “Last spring, I entered treatment for the first time since 2006, with a new team of therapist and psychiatrist. I was thoroughly honest with both about my previous bipolar disorder diagnosis 16 years ago; both disagreed, and told me they believed it to be adult attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).” You can submit your first person story, too.

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Other things to know: If they’re not asking the right questions, educators, parents, social workers and even medical professionals can make a misdiagnosis. Here are some other Mighty articles on the impact this can have on people:

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What to look for: If you’re concerned about a child’s mental health or suspect they may be having trouble, the Child Mind Institute has compiled a resource on what to look for here.

(07-16-2020, 06:46 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: Disgusting pieces of poop!    

(Sorry, I'm listening to a podcast right now. I'll watch the video later.)

(07-17-2020, 09:47 AM)Freija Wrote: I know this guy is a darling of the redpillers

(07-17-2020, 09:47 AM)Freija Wrote: it is very hard to imagine 13 days of very low dose estrogen without a testosterone blocker would have any effect on this boy at all

(07-17-2020, 09:47 AM)Freija Wrote: Conflating this with “forced gender transition” is also pure unadulterated alarmist horseshit. You could cut this kid’s nuts off and not change his gender or sense of being who he is. Ask a guy with surgery for testicular or penile cancer or someone that lost their genitals in an accident if they magically turned into women? It doesn’t work that way as anyone with half a brain should know.

(07-17-2020, 09:47 AM)Freija Wrote: Little Timmy is right though, if this boy was given estrogen even if was for under two weeks and didn’t cause physical changes, whomever is responsible for this should have the book thrown at them.

(07-17-2020, 09:47 AM)Freija Wrote: I finally had time to watch the video. I know this guy is a darling of the redpillers who love their confirmation bias but this hyperbolic and inflammatory video is nothing but spin and manufactured bullshit.

He starts out blathering on about injections then at 5:52 goes on to contradict himself saying the boy was administered thirteen daily 2mg doses of estrogen taken orally. Typical transition doses for transgender people range from 4mg to 6mg daily along with a testosterone blocker and anti-androgens are often given as a precursor to even starting estrogen in some cases. As I said above, they (the tranners) don’t usually notice anything physically for six to eight weeks so it is very hard to imagine 13 days of very low dose estrogen without a testosterone blocker would have any effect on this boy at all and certainly not to a degree that would require surgery or cause permanent changes.

Conflating this with “forced gender transition” is also pure unadulterated alarmist horseshit. You could cut this kid’s nuts off and not change his gender or sense of being who he is. Ask a guy with surgery for testicular or penile cancer or someone that lost their genitals in an accident if they magically turned into women? It doesn’t work that way as anyone with half a brain should know.

Little Timmy is right though, if this boy was given estrogen even if was for under two weeks and didn’t cause physical changes, whomever is responsible for this should have the book thrown at them.

My final thoughts on this are spinning this into some left vs. right divisive paradigm and falling for it only means you’ve been played right into the hands of those promoting the so called collapse of society via the divide and conquer strategy.