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Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - guohua - 06-24-2016

Personally, I"m Very Proud Of You All!  smallgreenhurray smallgreennumberone
I don't know if it affects our friend Gordi or BIAD or any other members. 
But I think it was the right move, Make Britain Great Again!  minusculebeercheers

Quote:The UK has voted by 52% to 48% to leave the European Union after 43 years in an historic referendum.
London and Scotland voted strongly to stay in the EU but the remain vote has been undermined by poor results in the north of England.
UKIP leader Nigel Farage hailed the result as the UK's "independence day".
The pound fell to its lowest level against the dollar since 1985 as the markets reacted to the results.

The referendum turnout was 71.8% - with more than 30 million people voting - the highest turnout at a UK election since 1992.

Wales and the majority of England outside London voted in large numbers for Brexit.
Labour's Shadow chancellor John McDonnell said the Bank of England may have to intervene to shore up the pound, which lost 3% within moments of the first result showing a strong result for Leave in Sunderland and fell as much as 6.5% against the euro.
'Independence day'
UKIP leader Nigel Farage - who has campaigned for the past 20 years for Britain to leave the EU - told cheering supporters "this will be a victory for ordinary people, for decent people".
Mr Farage - who predicted a Remain win at the start of the night after polls suggested that would happen - said Thursday 23 June would "go down in history as our independence day".
He called on Prime Minister David Cameron, who called the referendum but campaigned passionately for a Remain vote, to quit "immediately".

A Labour source said: "If we vote to leave, Cameron should seriously consider his position."

But pro-Leave Conservatives including Boris Johnson and Michael Gove have signed a letter to Mr Cameron urging him to stay on whatever the result.

Labour former Europe Minister Keith Vaz told the BBC the British people had voted with their "emotions" and rejected the advice of experts who had warned about the economic impact of leaving the EU.

He said the EU should call an emergency summit to deal with the aftermath of the vote, which he described as "catastrophic for our country, for the rest of Europe and for the rest of the world".

Germany's foreign minister Frank Walter Steinmeier describes the referendum result as as "a sad day for Europe and Great Britain".

But Leave supporting Tory MP Liam Fox said voters had shown great "courage" by deciding to "change the course of history" for the UK and, he hoped, the rest of Europe.

And he called for a "period of calm, a period of reflection, to let it all sink in and to work through what the actual technicalities are," insisting that Mr Cameron must stay on as PM.

Exit process
Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has said that the EU vote "makes clear that the people of Scotland see their future as part of the European Union" after all 32 local authority areas returned majorities for Remain.
You can read about it here: link

How about your Muslim Population?
I heard over 3 million Muslims live in London,,, Is That Right, Could that have influence the vote in London to stay in the EU?
Wasn't the Mayor of London a Muslim?
Just Asking!


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - Armonica_Templar - 06-24-2016

smallawesome

This is the people who stood up to Hitler

Mama decided to leave the commune

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Now the question is how do they intend to try and punish the Brits
They will try to, we all know it


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - guohua - 06-24-2016

I understand from friends, they have a Lot More To Stand Up To Now.
They need to regain their Culture and Take Back Their Flag!


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - Armonica_Templar - 06-24-2016

(06-24-2016, 07:23 AM)guohua Wrote: I understand from friends, they have a Lot More To Stand Up To Now.
They need to regain their Culture and Take Back Their Flag!


Welcome to the world after Brexit: Here's what happens next

Quote:First — technically speaking — the referendum is not legally binding. In theory, British Prime Minister David Cameron could ignore the will of a slight majority of voters, and not make any moves to exit the political and economic bloc.


Now we see Cameron's hand
as the article said, it is NOT legally binding?

If he ignores the majority his party is out
And there will be a vote of no confidence

The thing to remember over here
If Cameron does not withdraw the UK
Start stock piling major time in the US


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - BIAD - 06-24-2016

The final vote for the United Kingdom to stay or leave the European Union arrived on
Thursday 24th June 2016 with the slim decision that the people wish to leave.
The numbers were 48.1% to remain and 51.9% to leave.

Prime Minister David Cameron stated he would resign from office in October 2016.
............................

How The British Media Lied And Tricked Us Into Joining The EU -By Vernon Coleman

But don't kid yourself, this media will tell you that the sky is falling in. The City will
scream that money is pouring out into the Thames and we're in free-fall towards a
recession.
(Probably along the lines of what Armonica_Templar suggested)

But the markets are based on confidence and confidence isn't tangible. It can be
nurtured, moulded and interpreted in many ways.
Long before this decision came about, the Powers-That-Be should have listened to
the country and not just it's capital.
(Gerrin there, yer' Bugger!!)


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - Armonica_Templar - 06-24-2016

(06-24-2016, 09:10 AM)BIAD Wrote: The final vote for the United Kingdom to stay or leave the European Union arrived on
Thursday 24th June 2016 with the slim decision that the people wish to leave.
The numbers were 48.1% to remain and 51.9% to leave.

Prime Minister David Cameron stated he would resign from office in October 2016.
............................

How The British Media Lied And Tricked Us Into Joining The EU -By Vernon Coleman

But don't kid yourself, this media will tell you that the sky is falling in. The City will
scream that money is pouring out into the Thames and we're in free-fall towards a
recession.
(Probably along the lines of what Armonica_Templar suggested)

But the markets are based on confidence and confidence isn't tangible. It can be
nurtured, moulded and interpreted in many ways.
Long before this decision came about, the Powers-That-Be should have listened to
the country and not just it's capital.
(Gerrin there, yer' Bugger!!)

I had to pause because I was caught between two points
small bump and downturn

but then something dawned on me
Britain's Economy might climb

With a down economy their is BILLIONS to be made
all those trade deals have to be renegotiated

The rules of the free trade or whatever they claim is the basis of a global economy
well those deals mean that the UK companies can now pressure for new deals

the only thing that is changing is who gets a cut and who doesnt on the economic end
Their will be winners here big time

Not to mention with the non tarriffs  gone well most of the representatives (or what ever congress is in UK) can now argue for new funds

God.. I see what you mean

Britain votes to leave EU, Cameron quits, markets plummet

Quote:By Guy Faulconbridge and Kate Holton

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LONDON (Reuters) - Britain has voted to leave the European Union, forcing the resignation of Prime Minister David Cameron and dealing the biggest blow to the European project of greater unity since World War Two.
Global financial markets plunged on Friday as results from a referendum showed a near 52-48 percent split for leaving a bloc it joined more than 40 years ago.

The pound fell as much as 10 percent against the dollar to levels last seen in 1985, on fears the decision could hit investment in the world's fifth-largest economy, threaten London's role as a global financial capital and usher in months of political uncertainty.

World stocks headed for one of the biggest slumps on record, and billions of dollars were wiped off the value of European companies. Britain's big banks took a $130 billion battering, with Lloyds and Barclays falling as much as 30 percent.

An emotional Cameron, who led the "Remain" campaign to defeat, losing the gamble he took when he called the referendum three years ago, said he would leave office by October.


"The British people have made the very clear decision to take a different path and as such I think the country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction," he said in a televised address outside his Downing Street office.

"I do not think it would be right for me to be the captain that steers our country to its next destination."


Quitting the EU could cost Britain access to the EU's trade barrier-free single market and mean it must seek new trade accords with countries around the world. The United Kingdom itself could break apart, with politicians in Scotland - where nearly two-thirds of voters wanted to stay in the EU - calling for a new vote on independence.


The EU for its part will be economically and politically damaged, facing the departure not only of its most free-market proponent but also a member with a U.N. Security Council veto, a powerful army and nuclear capability. In one go, the bloc will lose around a sixth of its economic output.


The result emboldened eurosceptics in other member states with populist leaders in France and the Netherlands demanding their own referendums to leave.

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The vote will initiate at least two years of divorce proceedings with the EU, the first exit by any member state. Cameron - who has been premier for six years and called the referendum in a bid to head off pressure from domestic eurosceptics, including within his own party - said it would be up to his successor to formally start the exit process.

His Conservative Party rival Boris Johnson, the former London mayor who became the most recognisable face of the "leave" camp, is now widely tipped to seek his job. Johnson made no comment as he left his home to jeers from a crowd in the mainly pro-EU capital.

'INDEPENDENCE DAY'

There was euphoria among Britain's eurosceptic forces, claiming a victory over the political establishment, big business and foreign leaders including U.S. President Barack Obama who had urged Britain to stay in.


"Dare to dream that the dawn is breaking on an independent United Kingdom," said Nigel Farage, leader of the eurosceptic UK Independence Party, describing the EU as "doomed" and "dying".


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"This will be a victory for real people, a victory for ordinary people, a victory for decent people ... Let June 23 go down in our history as our independence day."

European politicians reacted with dismay.

"The news from Britain is really sobering. It looks like a sad day for Europe and Britain," said German foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier.

"Please tell me I'm still sleeping and this is all just a bad nightmare!" former Finnish Prime Minister Alexander Stubb tweeted.


The shock hits a European bloc already reeling from a euro zone debt crisis, unprecedented mass migration and confrontation with Russia over Ukraine. Anti-immigrant and anti-EU political parties have been surging across the continent, placing unprecedented pressure on the centre-left and centre-right establishment that has governed Europe for generations.


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French National Front leader Marine Le Pen called for a similar referendum in France, changed her Twitter profile to a Union Jack and declared "Victory for freedom!"

Dutch far right leader Geert Wilders, also demanding a referendum, said: “We want be in charge of our own country, our own money, our own borders, and our own immigration policy."


U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump, whose rise has been fuelled by disenchantment with the political establishment in the United States that has parallels with populism in Europe, declared that Britons "took back control of their country". He was in Scotland opening a golf club.


Britain has always been ambivalent about its relations with the rest of post-war Europe. A firm supporter of free trade, tearing down internal economic barriers and expanding the EU to take in ex-communist eastern states, it opted out of joining the euro single currency or the Schengen border-free zone.


    Cameron's ruling Conservatives in particular have harboured an anti-EU wing for generations, and it was partly to silence such figures that he called the referendum in 2013.


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World leaders including Obama, Chinese President Xi Jinping, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, NATO and Commonwealth governments had all urged a

"Remain" vote, saying Britain would be stronger and more influential in the EU than outside.


    The four-month campaign was among the divisive ever waged in Britain, with accusations of lying and scare-mongering on both sides and rows on immigration which critics said at times unleashed overt racism.


It also revealed deeper splits in British society, with the pro-Brexit side drawing support from millions of voters who felt left behind by globalisation and believed they saw no benefits from Britain's ethnic diversity and free-market economy.


At the darkest moment, a pro-EU member of parliament was stabbed and shot to death in the street by an attacker who later told a court his name was

"Death to traitors, freedom for Britain".


Older voters backed Brexit; the young mainly wanted to stay in. London and Scotland supported the EU, but wide swathes of middle England, which have not shared in the capital's prosperity, voted to leave.


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Concerns over uncontrolled immigration, loss of sovereignty and remote rule from Brussels appear to have trumped almost unanimous warnings of the economic perils of going it alone.

THREAT OF UK BREAK-UP

The United Kingdom itself now faces a threat to its survival; Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said Thursday's vote "makes clear that the people of Scotland see their future as part of the European Union."

Her predecessor, Alex Salmond, said Scotland was now likely to push for a second independence referendum. It voted against seceding in 2014. Northern Ireland's largest Irish nationalist party, Sinn Fein, said the result intensified the case for a vote on whether to quit the United Kingdom.


The global financial turmoil was the worst shock since the 2008 economic crisis, and comes at a time when interest rates around the world are already at or near zero, leaving policymakers without the usual tools to respond.


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The body blow to global confidence could prevent the Federal Reserve from raising interest rates as planned this year, and might even provoke a new round of emergency policy easing from all major central banks, despite their limited options.

The Bank of England said it would take all necessary steps to secure monetary and financial stability. Japanese Finance Minister Taro Aso promising to "respond as needed" in the currency market.


    EU affairs ministers and ambassadors from member states gather in Luxembourg by 10 a.m. (9.00 a.m. BST) for previously-scheduled talks that will provide the first chance for many to react.


Left unclear is the relationship Britain can negotiate with the EU once it leaves.


To retain access to the single market, vital for its giant financial services sector, London may have to adopt all EU regulation without having a say in its shaping, contribute to Brussels coffers, and continue to allow free movement as Norway and Switzerland do - all things the Leave campaign vowed to end.

EU officials have said UK-based banks and financial firms would lose automatic "passport" access to sell services across Europe if Britain ceased to apply the EU principles of free movement of goods, capital, services and people.

    Aside from trade, huge questions now face the millions of British expatriates who live freely elsewhere in the bloc and enjoy equal access to health and other benefits, as well as millions of EU citizens who live and work in Britain.


(Additional reporting by UK bureau; Writing by Mark John; Editing by Pravin Char and Peter Graff)


Reading this article did make me think of something

Someone pulled the rug out from underneath the PTB in the UK
I think the UK will make it and be stronger

We assume the same level of corruption as the US
It means the person that did this (or Group)
Actually stand to strengthen the UK

I do not see scottland leaving for some reason

This was a display of power
IMHO

who profits?

Off to check the US markets.. Might try to make some money


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - BIAD - 06-24-2016

(06-24-2016, 11:06 AM)Armonica_Templar Wrote: Someone pulled the rug out from underneath the PTB in the UK
I think the UK will make it and be stronger

We assume the same level of corruption as the US
It means the person that did this (or Group)
Actually stand to strengthen the UK

I do not see scotland leaving for some reason

This was a display of power
IMHO

who profits?

Off to check the US markets.. Might try to make some money

Right or wrong, a fundamental act took place in the name of democracy.
Business will find it's way and people will always make money.
I know that sounds banal, but it's simple... because life is simple.

The media will scavenge for sound-bites and those who's power is threatened
will continue to ply fear into the populace. But people will trade together, whether
you call the market place a local one or global one.

If the EU breaks up, then they'll just continue to trade with each other and the rest of the world.
Yet, in time... someone will suggest organising it better, create a situation where the bureaucracy
is deemed more important than the trading and we'll be off again.

There are those who dig and there are those who point at where to dig.
The Shovel vs The Pen!


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - gordi - 06-24-2016

Just as a side-note,

Every Single Scottish Region voted to REMAIN in the EU. 100% of them. Every Single One! tinyhuh

Scotland (and N.Ireland) are now being dragged out of Europe (by the majority vote from England and Wales) against their collective will.

The sitting Scottish Government, is largely controlled by the Scottish National Party (SNP).

The SNP have commited to seeking a 2nd Scottish Independence Referendum should the material circumstances of being in the UK change.
One such change specifically mentioned was that of the UK voting to leave the EU, with the people of Scotland voting to remain.

With the UK now commited to leaving the EU, the SNP WILL SEEK A NEW Independence Referendum, and chances are that they would win this time.

I suspect that they would want to rush this through BEFORE the UK actually leave the EU, so that Scotland would REMAIN in the EU, instead of leaving with the UK then having to re-apply to "join" the EU from the outside, which would be a nightmare scenario.

Trouble is.... I think they need permission from Westminster (the UK Government)....

It's going to be a Bumpy ride for sure!!!

Bring It On! LOL
G


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - BIAD - 06-24-2016

(06-24-2016, 11:46 AM)gordi Wrote: Just as a side-note,

Every Single Scottish Region voted to REMAIN in the EU. 100% of them. Every Single One! tinyhuh

Scotland (and N.Ireland) are now being dragged out of Europe (by the majority vote from England and Wales) against their collective will.

The sitting Scottish Government, is largely controlled by the Scottish National Party (SNP).

The SNP have commited to seeking a 2nd Scottish Independence Referendum should the material circumstances of being in the UK change.
One such change specifically mentioned was that of the UK voting to leave the EU, with the people of Scotland voting to remain.

With the UK now commited to leaving the EU, the SNP WILL SEEK A NEW Independence Referendum, and chances are that they would win this time.

I suspect that they would want to rush this through BEFORE the UK actually leave the EU, so that Scotland would REMAIN in the EU, instead of leaving with the UK then having to re-apply to "join" the EU from the outside, which would be a nightmare scenario.

Trouble is.... I think they need permission from Westminster (the UK Government)....

It's going to be a Bumpy ride for sure!!!

Bring It On! LOL
G

I agree with everything you say, Scotland and N. Ireland will be left in a situation that they
overwhelmingly didn't want. But... there's always a way out, there's always a plan.

A 2nd Referendum may bring about a re-connection with the EU and maybe it will be okay.
But... I suspect that the EU may have to reconsider it's own situation as a 'union'


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - Sol - 06-24-2016

Here in Canada, what I've heard from different people this morning is...O.M.G... !!!

Yep. It's the end of the world as we know it.

Well...No. It isn't.

Personally, I applaud the braveness of having chosen democracy in order to seek a new future. When it doesn't work, sometimes, trying to fix it over and over and over just doesn't cut it.

Yes. I applaud.

minusculethumbsup2


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - guohua - 06-24-2016

@"Armonica_Templar", @"BIAD" , @"gordi" and @"solarius" 
DAMN!
I have to agree, that England will survive and the Media Only Reports For The People Who Pay Them Too.
Their Stocks will come back strong and they'll be making their Own Decisions and Choices.

As far as Scotland and N. Ireland, I would assume they'd want their Independence or are they to use to that feeling of the Love From The Big EU.
My husband said every Scotsman he knew or met in Viet Nam, in the Bars or in the Bush was Proud To be Called A Scotsman, Very Independant and Strong Headed and Strong Willed.
He just said to me to write, The Bastards Didn't Know How To Whisper and they Snored So Loud!!

Now Canada, What do they have to worry about? They know we'd always Adopt Then as out Little Sister! tinybigeyes


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - BIAD - 06-24-2016

(06-24-2016, 07:15 PM)guohua Wrote: ....He just said to me to write, The Bastards Didn't Know How To Whisper and they Snored So Loud..!!

That's strange, Boy In A Dress told me exactly that regarding Gordi!
That damned shed of his, when he and BIAD get together on the hooch
there's no stopping 'em!


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - BIAD - 06-24-2016

Here's a documentary about how England will deal with the law-makers from the EU in the future.
With their pesky pencil-pushing!!
It's factual.
tinydrroling




RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - Sol - 06-24-2016

Quote:Now Canada, What do they have to worry about? They know we'd always Adopt Then as out Little Sister! tinybigeyes


@"guohua" ,


Our frail loonie went down 1.5 cents right after the announcement. Markets are going to be unstable for a while.


And remember, when Canadians have nothing to worry about, they get bored.


tinybigeyes


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - BIAD - 06-24-2016

Were we wrong...? Could 51% of the UK public have decided on the wrong
information provided?

Or... is this something that's been simmering everywhere and the PTB have just
been able to keep a lid on it?
Brexit SPREADS across Europe: Italy, France, Holland and Denmark ALL call for
referendums...

SOURCE:


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - Armonica_Templar - 06-24-2016

Brexit, explained by an analogy to Texas leaving the United States

Quote:In the wake of the UK’s "Brexit" vote to leave the European Union, thousands of people on social media began discussing "Texit": the idea that Texas might leave the United States. Obviously, this is not a serious movement — most of those tweets were jokes. But imagining a hypothetical Texit could be helpful for Americans confused by Brexit. Translating things into American terms might help make a decision that seems totally foreign more comprehensible.


So what follows is a brief description of a hypothetical "Texit," if it were to happen the same way and for the same reasons that Brexit did. The point is not to sketch something that could actually happen, but to understand what just happened in the UK by literally describing the events in
 an American context.


AUSTIN, Texas — Americans woke up in a state of complete shock on Friday morning, as Texas stunned the world by voting to leave the United States.


"I fought this campaign in the only way I know how, which is to say directly and passionately what I think and feel," Gov. Greg Abbott, the referendum’s leading opponent, said in a tearful resignation speech.


"But the Texan people have made a very clear decision to take a different path, and as such I think the country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction."


In some sense, this vote has been a long time coming. Texas has long maintained a separate identity from the rest of the United States, celebrating its past as an independent country with its own traditions and history. Despite being America’ssecond-largest economy, Texas remained culturally distinct from the rest of the Union.


Until today, however, the sense was that Texans cared more about the economic benefits of integration with the rest of the United States than it did about its sense of separate national identity.


Texas benefited hugely from free trade with other states, as well as from Americans moving from other states to come work in its relatively successful economy. Now, however, Texas has jeopardized all of that in the name of state identity and sovereignty.


The key trigger appears to have been immigration.


Over the past decades, Texas had experienced unprecedentedly large waves of immigration, particularly from poorer Mexicans looking for employment in Texas’s stronger economy. Many Texans felt that the Mexican migrants were stealing their jobs and diluting "traditional" Texan culture.


This fueled a massive backlash against immigrants. The once-minor Texas Independence Party, led (ironically) by former New York businessman Donald Trump, had gained significantly in statewide polls over the past decade.


The TIP’s real genius was tying anxiety about immigrants to traditional Texan skepticism of Washington. TIP members argued, pretty fairly, that American national policy prevented Texas from closing its borders. The TIP single-mindedly made the case that Texas needed to keep out the immigrants and regain its sovereign status, and that the only way to do that was to leave the United States.


The pressure from TIP terrified the Texas Republican Party and Abbott, who stood to lose votes to their new, more stridently right-wing rival. Therefore, in 2013, Abbott committed to holding a referendum on Texas independence if he won the 2015 statewide elections. His plan was that the vote would fail and TIP would be weakened as a result.


But things didn’t go as planned. For one thing, Abbott faced a split in his own party. About half of the Texas state GOP, led by Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, campaigned for leaving. Patrick appealed to Texas’s tradition of independence, arguing that "unaccountable" leaders like United States President Barack Obama were acting like petty authoritarians, without Texas’s interests at heart.


A spate of terrorist attacks elsewhere in the US made the Leave camp’s arguments against immigration far more persuasive.

Attacks in San Bernardino and Orlando convinced many Texans that Muslims migration increased the terrorist threat in the US. The Trump and Patrick factions argued that Washington’s policy of admitting thousands of Syrian refugees, and then allowing them to move freely around the States, put Texas at risk.

"There is an especial problem with some of the people who’ve come here and who are of the Muslim religion who don’t want to become part of our culture," Trump said in a recent speech. "People do see a fifth column living within our country, who hate us and want to kill us."


These sentiments — xenophobia, skepticism of Washington and Obama, and fears of terrorism — carried the day. Virtually all of rural Texas voted to leave, ultimately overwhelming pro-American sentiment in cities like Austin, the very liberal capital, as well as in heavily Latino areas.


Indeed, some of these areas are now discussing leaving Texas and forming an independent Tex-Mex that would make a bid to remain in the United States.


As for Texas itself, nobody knows what will happen. It seems like Patrick will take over as governor, and his first priority will be negotiating the terms of Texit with Washington.


Texas will want to maintain its free trade agreement and other privileges. However, Washington has a strong incentive to punish Texas. It wants to prevent other restive states, like Vermont, from following Texas’s lead, thus collapsing the entire Union.


Therefore, Washington might well deny trade and other privileges to Texas, a move that would inflict major pain on the Texan economy and force other states to leave.


One thing, however, is for sure: The United States will never be the same after Texas’s departure. We’ve truly entered unknown territory.

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Quote:Propaganda because the emotional sting is different.. Since your collecting metrics, get a better propaganda writer.. Abbot would not be resigning..

The other thing is that UK is NOT a STATE of the EU.. They are leaving an alliance..

Please select a better propagandist to write your articles..

Perhaps a better metaphor would be to write, imagine if it was 1861 in the US..  

You would get a better feel and paint the Brexit people as racist indirectly.. Associating them with the south..

You would get a better feel and paint the Brexit people as racist indirectly.. Associating them with the south..


The problem you have is trying to communicate a globalist message to non-globalist 

I would seriously rethink the peoples position who wrote this and sponsored it.. A lot of back slapping, that at a boys I can see went with it.. However whoever the advert man running this is a fool..

Retool the message..
Keep basic elements
change the setting
Keep the associations

FIRE the writer



I recommend blaming this failure on someone you have needed to get rid of but cant.. Use this as a good reason for it

It is what I told vox


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - Armonica_Templar - 06-25-2016

Just F#$%ing wow

Vote along class lines
Wealthy people, successful 
versus hinted at losers

Holy S#$%, I cant make this up

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  5. J.K. Rowling Slams ‘Bunch of Racists’ Attacking Black Hermione Casting Variety

That minority is the 48% of Britons who voted to remain in the European Union. And Rowling, who tried to wield her considerable influence to support remaining in the EU, is declaring her anger after the shocking result of the referendum.

Rowling had made herself one of the most vocal public figures on the issue over the past few weeks with a steady flow of tweets, culminating in a blog post earlier this week that warned her fellow citizens against voting to leave the EU. In the blog post, she compared those on the Leave side to "villains" like Hannibal Lecter, Big Brother and her own character Lord Voldemort.

Now, in light of the result, Rowling is going off on the voters she has called "a bunch of mini-Trumps." She retweeted someone calling UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage "an unspeakable piece of sh*t." She retweeted someone saying "all the wrong people are clapping" in response to a celebratory tweet by Marion LePen, niece of the leader of the French National Front.


But Rowling didn't just retweet the fiery comments of others. She posted her own scathing comments as well. Those who voted to leave the EU, she said, are "like the cheating man shocked he can't stay in the spare room for 2 years while he sorts himself out." In another tweet she said, "This is what happens when you try to fix a faulty watch with a hammer."

Quote:Scotland will seek independence now. Cameron's legacy will be breaking up two unions. Neither needed to happen. https://t.co/4MDj7pndcq

— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) June 24, 2016
Quote:Goodbye, UK. https://t.co/HMRA0AnlWR
— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) June 24, 2016
Quote:Brexiteers like the cheating man shocked he can't stay in the spare room for 2 years while he sorts himself out. https://t.co/Xvjfr6ifPv
— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) June 24, 2016

Rowling's comparison of the Brexit situation to her own wizarding world, made in her earlier blog post, is not such a stretch. In her Harry Potter series, wizards ban together against a small but virulent "dark arts" faction, led by Voldemort. The dark-arts wizards in her fictional world are exclusionary; they reject non-wizards and half-blood wizards, and seek to keep the wizarding world pure. Rowling and others have observed a similar tone of xenophobia in the campaign of Donald Trump and the campaign to leave the EU, and now, in England, that faction has triumphed. (And the result may help Trump's chances in the U.S.)


It is an uncertain and scary moment for the global economy. Rowling, among many other British celebrities, such as Virgin CEO Richard Branson and soccer legend David Beckham, is distressed.


As for Boris Johnson, the former London mayor who led the movement to leave the EU and is now the odds-on favorite to be the next prime minister, Rowling shared a comment by Johnson that the UK will not be any less united because of this vote, and she added, "Always good to kick off by showing you don't understand a key issue."

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Daniel Roberts is a writer at Yahoo Finance, covering sports business and technology. Follow him on Twitter at @readDanwrite.

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I will no longer read CRAP written by that woman

She forgot to add she was on government assistance from what I heard while she wrote the books
Did she ever return the money?


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - Armonica_Templar - 06-25-2016

What the Brexit means for the United States

immediately


Hillary Clinton is sitting down with her advisors getting her Ego massaged
Truth is they are probably very afraid

Even though it looks like Bernie let his people DOWN, they will be embolden

A black swan took a bite out of Cameron

The Brexit means that regardless of polls

regardless of lies and tricks
People will vote what they want

You will see hillary's campaign try to shift in response to rural areas
They now have to spend the money or lose

It means that rural areas will fight back against a progressive tide

Trumps campaign got handed a win but not in the way being painted

He got a moral victory
Both the mayor of London and Cameron spoke out against him and what he represented
Now Cameron is going

He has the momentum for this part of the election
Both sides will now be thinking a single thought

This election will be over Obama's policies and he will not be there to fight this fight


My advice for hillary

Tie Cameron's fall to his deafness to his people
Associate Obama's cabinet with Cameron

Then, "I feel your pain.."

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As for a market issue

I checked my fake stocks

(I decided to wait for a larger fall to invest cash)

Well the result was my portfolio dropped 2000 dollars

I started with a million play money
Is valued at roughly two million now
with about 350000 in reserve cash to purchase

so the markets playing around are about what less then .5 percent loss
Not even equal to a bad trading day

I also went with a time travel scenario and played looking for long term

so now.. places where I am NOT gambling have succeedded


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - guohua - 06-25-2016

@"Armonica_Templar" , You said and I Quote, 
Quote:Hillary Clinton is sitting down with her advisors getting her Ego massaged
Truth is they are probably very afraid

Even though it looks like Bernie let his people DOWN, they will be embolden

A black swan took a bite out of Cameron

The Brexit means that regardless of polls

regardless of lies and tricks
People will vote what they want

You will see hillary's campaign try to shift in response to rural areas
They now have to spend the money or lose

I Agree,,, Have you seen those ass hats in the EU demanding that Britain Exits Immediately? 
 Like a Bunch Of Babies, Throwing a Temper Tantrum and Stomping Their Feet! smallveryupset
Quote:EU parliament leader: we want Britain out as soon as possible.

A senior EU leader has confirmed the bloc wants Britain out as soon as possible, warning that David Cameron’s decision to delay the start of Brexit negotiations until his successor is in place may not be fast enough.
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Quote:Martin Schulz said there would be consequences from Britain cutting ties with the world’s biggest single market.
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I'd Tell Them To Just Try and Sue Us, They Can Kiss My Proud British Ass is what I'd Say To Those Assholes! I'm Not British Though!


RE: Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum - guohua - 06-25-2016

Personally I believe this Billboard and it's message I seen in an article was one of the tipping points for young Voters in Britain. 
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