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The Aurora, Texas UFO - guohua - 04-06-2019 Does anyone know of the Aurora,Ex. UFO crash? I understand this happened in 1897, WoW, that is before Roswell. It is reported that they actually found the body and the local Military Buried the Alien in the local cemetery. Quote:Ned – The Aurora Alien Cute Name,,,,, Ned, the alien. Quote:There were several sightings of a “great airship” around Texas, in the spring of 1897. At least one of these flying crafts was reported to have crashed in Aurora, on April 17, 1897. The tall tale reports a “airship” crashing into Judge Proctor’s windmill and bursting into flames. Among the wreckage, Aurora residents found the disfigured remains of an alien creature. The alien, we now call “Ned,” was given “a proper christian burial” in the local Aurora Cemetery.Yes, they buried an Alien they named Ned and then someone (the government) stole the headstone and even possibly the remains of Ned, why? Quote:Haydon said the townspeople watched in amazement as the slow-moving airship drifted over the town square and then moved north toward the property of Judge J. S. Proctor. Next, the UFO collided with a windmill on the judge’s land and “went into pieces with a terrific explosion, scattering debris over several acres of ground.” The crash destroyed the windmill, the adjacent water tank and the judge’s flower garden.So,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, You Believe? RE: The Aurora, Texas UFO - Wallfire - 04-07-2019 I remembered reading about this many years ago. I love to think this is true, for humans to be so forgiving after the craft did so much damage crashing that when they found the alien body they give him a name and a proper burial. As with most stories there are many versions, you can find the version that trys to debunk the story here source. I think I will stay with the story that shows that humans can be good RE: The Aurora, Texas UFO - BIAD - 04-07-2019 It's one of those 'Maybe' stories as the evidence is littered with counter-information and oddly enough, has similar references to the Roswell crash of 1947. Personally, I believe there were some airships being tested around the south-western area of the United States and it could well be -with the assistance of the Dallas Liars Club, some sightings were enhanced. It's suggested that S.E. Hayden was not so-much an Aurora Journalist, but a wool-supplier in the area and saw the town of Aurora diminshing due to several negative occurrences. To promote a community blighted with bad luck, Hayden may have taken the many reports of airships from around the Texas at the time and added his own brand of drama. Only months before the alleged crash in 1897, the town had suffered with a boll weevil infestation, a life-taking fire and it had been announced that a railroad would be bypassing the town. Six years earlier, Hayden was reported to have lost his family to spotted-fever epidemic and if this person was supposedly a resident of Aurora, it would be viable that his wife and two sons were interred in the same Aurora Cemetery or at least, somewhere in Wise County. Indexing all the plots of Auroa Cemetery has failed to find any Hayden gravesites and it could well be that the title 'Hayden' is merely a pen-name for a local reporter. The 'garden' that was supposed to be the location of the UFO crash belonged to Judge James Spencer Proctor and it is said that Proctor and Hayden were friends and occasionally published satirical articles in the local paper for the sole purpose of entertaining Aurora residents. The odd parallels with the Roswell case is that Mac Brazel -the main character in the account, tended sheep on the ranch near Corona and in some reports, is mistakenly stated to have come into town to deliver wool to a trader and during his visit, mentioned the discovered debris on the property to Roswell's Sheriff Wilcox. The legend says Brazel was a foreman, which would imply he managed men beneath him. However, no other persons are mentioned working on the J.B Foster sheep ranch. The fact was that the wool-company would go to the Foster homestead to collect the wool and one of the possible reasons why Brazel would go to town was due to his family didn't live with him on the Foster ranch, they only visited from their home in Tularosa. Hayden of Aurora was reported to be a wool-supplier and Brazel tended sheep...? The nearest neighbours to the property where Mac Brazel watched over the grazing sheep and supposedly found spaceship debris was the Proctor ranch, owned by Floyd and Loretta Proctor. The Proctor ranch and Judge Proctor of Aurora...?! Some Aurora residents have stated that Judge Proctor never had a windmill on his land and the US Signal Service Officer character 'Mr. T. J. Weems' didn't live in Aurora. Weems is reported to have examined the dead body found in the crash and announced the deceased pilot was from Mars. There were two census that indicated such a person named Weems lived in nearby Rhome in 1910 and 1920, which one was a grocer and the other a blacksmith. Nothing indicated a US Signal Service Officer residing in the area. ......................................... This is the problem when we peer back into history. We assume everyone is conscientious and holds truth higher than we do today. And of course, mystery airships are always sexy!! All Texas craft from around 1897 except bottom-right, this was the Davenport sighting in California. ......................................... You see, the point of these stories is to intrigue, not to prove or disprove. The formula to maintain a good account is not have an ending, a provable position that promotes the supposed facts that led to the final result. In the Aurora crash, the body of the alleged alien is said to have been buried in the Aurora cemetery and therefore, real evidence is there to show that the Earth was visited by extra-terrestrials. But to maintain the legend, the town's 'authorities' will not permit digging that proof up... ergo, the story remains intact. If one looks at all the mainstream conspiracy theories, the Bigfoot always escapes or the UFO-witness had his finger over the camera lens or just before a press-briefing, MIBs broke into the witnesses' home and stole his evidence or simply, the person lied to enjoy the fame. The best ones are always involving the Military, where stone-faced men take away mysterious metal or pack wooden crates with dead alien bodies. Somehow, these men can move on through their lives without ever telling their loved-ones that they're being visited by creatures from faraway planets that would surely destroy everyone's world-view. And if you entertain any of these rational possibilities, you -yourself are working for the Guv'ment and are trying hide the truth. Try Frank Kaufmann of Roswell fame. He created false documents, lied about his role in the incident and embroidered the tale so much, that many books about the crashed saucer in the New Mexico desert held assurances due to Kaufmann's claims of his involvement. Later after his death, a visit to his home produced piles of evidence -from an old typewriter to home-made official-looking stamps, that proved his entire input to the supposed crash was a fabrication. Even the authors who wrote about him knowingly lied to enhance their books! ......................................... The thing is, I watched a documentary many years ago, where a woman held-out hope that her husband who was reported missing-in-action in Vietnam, could be -not only still alive, but also available to be exchanged back to his wife for money. The go-between was an elderly American man who said he worked for a certain US agency and had been involved in trading US prisoners-of-war in a clandestine manner for many years. The television programme seemed very dramatic and this soft-spoken guy would keep visiting the harried woman to tell her the price had gone up. I looked at the craggy-skinned man's face and wondered how he could deal with such an emotional issue and yet, carry an air of indifference. Of course, the woman's husband was never seen and the CIA-guy explained that the shadowy figures on the edge of the jungle had decided the ransom wasn't worth it. (No conclusive proof again!) The go-between in the seventies MIA documentary was this guy -who in the world of Roswell, was going by the name Frank Kaufmann. The same man who had created fraudulent evidence that the US Military covered up the Roswell UFO crash of 1947. I'm not saying it's all bunk, but there's always someone looking to benefit from such tales and it always makes good entertainment. RE: The Aurora, Texas UFO - Mystic Wanderer - 04-07-2019 After BIAD's post, what can I say but, MAYBE... MAYBE NOT. Excellent post @"BIAD". RE: The Aurora, Texas UFO - guohua - 04-08-2019 I think it was a real incident, very well documented at the time and it should be noted, this was a time before the Wright Brothers flew. RE: The Aurora, Texas UFO - BIAD - 04-08-2019 (04-08-2019, 12:13 AM)guohua Wrote: I think it was a real incident, very well documented at the time and it should be noted, this was a I would agree with you in principle, I have no definite evidence that the occurrence was concocted for personal or communal gain. But the airship phenomena isn't as mysterious as some would lead people to believe. Dirigibles or LTAs (lighter than air) craft had been around -probably before, but certainly by 1783 and that was what these craft being seen in the western states were, gas-filled balloons. The inventiveness of propelling them forward made their designs look strange, but all-in-all, they were inflatables. I believe the key to these strange shapes seen in Texas and elsewhere was the possibility that if airships could be seen as a viable vehicle, the US Army would certainly be interested. Just as they were interested in the Baldwin dirigible of 1908. Constructing these things for a Government-funded military is a lucrative goal! The Wright Brothers had a different approach to flight, where the propulsion and air-flow over a wing would be the way to stay in the air. Speed could be then improved and controlled by the dynamics of propulsion and the volume of the craft. A balloon is always going to be a large bag of gas that impacts its speed and of course, makes an easier target. Standard history has always been been a bit vague when discussing these particular vehicles. Most mention the Montgolfier brothers in France and the German Zeppelin. But information regarding the pioneers of the airship in the western regions of the US tends to only be displayed as some 'mysterious' crafts with pilots who speak an unknown language. I'd suggest that the language was actually German, but that's a far-more mysterious story! If the reports are to be believed, the rates of speed of some these craft would certainly place them in the category of a vehicle far-beyond a publicly-assumed velocity of what was current at the time. The whole aspect of what happened at Aurora -Texas may not have been secret, more like sensitive and the account was merely added to for editorial reasons. Until the body of the alleged pilot is exhumed, well never know if it was a foreign-looking/sounding human or an actual alien! This is from an airship incident of November 17th, 1896. Quote:"That same night the "airship" also appeared above San Francisco some 90 miles away.SOURCE: I honestly believe that there were innovative people attempting to improve the idea of dirigible balloons and via exploitative Journalism, many of the sightings were 'sexed-up'. This left the subject open for conspiracy-theorists to imply that somehow, aliens had discarded the craft that had brought them here and used gas-filled, steam-powered vehicles to get themselves around the US countryside! But I could be wrong. |