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Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - BIAD - 02-16-2017 'The US President denies saying leaks from his administration are "illegal" and are "going to stop" damages the first amendment. Donald Trump has launched an extensive attack on the US media, saying "the level of dishonesty is out of control". In a news conference, he said: "The media is trying to attack our administration because they know we are following through on pledges we made and they're not happy about it." "But a lot of people are happy about it." "I turn on the TV, open the newspapers, I see stories of chaos. Yet it is the exact opposite. This administration is running like a fine-tuned machine." Sky's US correspondent Cordelia Lynch described the attack as "unprecedented". Cordelia Lynch: "Many of our nation's reporters will not tell you the truth." - President Trump. Cordelia Lynch: Trump "the press, the level of dishonesty is out of control." She said: "The White House has criticised media in past plenty of times, but this kind of attack on journalists is unprecedented."' Wow! How dare he, huh?!! '...In the news conference, Mr Trump said: "Many of our nation's reporters will not tell you the truth. And will not treat the wonderful people of this country with the respect they deserve. "I hope going forward things can be a little bit different and maybe get along a little bit better. Maybe it's not. That's ok too. "Much of the media in Washington DC, along with New York, Los Angeles in particular speaks not for the people but for those profiting off a obviously very broken system. "The press has become so dishonest and if we don't talk about it we are doing a tremendous disservice to the American people, because the press is out of control. The level of dishonesty is out of control...' SOURCE: But they won't learn... it's beneath them to accept criticism. RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - Mystic Wanderer - 02-16-2017 Quote:But they won't learn... it's beneath them to accept criticism. Can I get an "Amen" to that?! :smalleyeroll: Trying to show the other side of the coin to the left is a waste of time, media AND people. I've quit talking to them. They are brain-entrained zombies! I don't have to defend Trump anymore... he won! Hopefully, in time, they will start to pull their heads out of the sand and see the good he is doing for our country. RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - BIAD - 02-17-2017 Whether this is an urban myth or not (and I think 727Sky used it some time back) it's a fine example of the way that the Establishment and certainly the media, think. The Monkeys In A Cage Syndrome. 'A group of scientists placed five monkeys in a cage, and in the middle, a ladder with bananas on top. Every time a monkey went up the ladder, the scientists soaked the rest of the monkeys with cold water. After a while, every time a monkey would start up the ladder, the others would pull it down and beat it up. After a time, no monkey would dare try climbing the ladder, no matter how great the temptation. The scientists then decided to replace one of the monkeys. The first thing this new monkey did was start to climb the ladder. Immediately, the others pulled him down and beat him up. After several beatings, the new monkey learned never to go up the ladder, even though there was no evident reason not to, aside from the beatings. The second monkey was substituted and the same occurred. The first monkey participated in the beating of the second monkey. A third monkey was changed and the same was repeated. The fourth monkey was changed, resulting in the same, before the fifth was finally replaced as well. What was left was a group of five monkeys that – without ever having received a cold shower – continued to beat up any monkey who attempted to climb the ladder. If it was possible to ask the monkeys why they beat up on all those who attempted to climb the ladder, their most likely answer would be “I don’t know. It’s just how things are done around here.”...' ....................................... Normally, it wouldn't be a moral query, the basic principle of why mainstream media does-what-is -does would be seen as okay in the realms of a investigative Journalistic viewpoint, but where the moral aspect comes into it is the pressure to hold political officials accountable should be across the board and show no favouritism. In President Trump's case, this isn't so. The media have either been ordered to behave in this negative manner or they believe it's the correct way to portray America's leader. The unfair conduct of Journalism is being shown to the world in such a way that it will not only damage their current reputation -what's left of it, it could seriously alter the way the masses acquire their information from now on. Scenario One: They believe they're right. They believe that what they took for granted and accepted as the norm has changed and they're unwilling to listen to why it has changed. The media perceive a political regime that requires them to report the actions of the Trump Administration without a personal comment of what it means. There's no sexy lightweight pieces that need little research and caters for a lazy Editorial Department and there's too much of the serious, boring political legislation that demands scrutiny and fact-based groundwork. In a nutshell, Donald Trump is asking them to work for a living. Scenario Two: The mainstream media -possibly from coercion of their superiors, have comprehensively agreed to create a forum where President Trump's announcements, political and general comments and his presentation to the world via the media, should be displayed in a poor light. Ignoring certain parts of his official and private speakings, the dominant sections of the world press are attempting to maintain a biased narrative that they believe as the potential to persuade the public that the person currently in the White House hasn't the leadership qualities to benefit the country with his Presidency. Scenario Three: Both of the above. The phrase 'Fourth Dimensional Chess' was bandied about for a while and it was suggested that Trump played this mentally-athletic game well. Maybe he does, but I would submit that if such adroit cerebral agility is going on, it's not taking place in the Oval Office. It's happening outside. If we use the names 'Democrat' and 'Republican' as examples and refrain from looking at them as nothing more than titles to assist in my explanation, then thank you. The Democrats were 'in power' for eight years, a fair time for the media to get used to create an environment where they could nurture the public into accepting a level of journalism that tasted of a 'classy' lightweight agenda where trust in the Government would be taken for granted. True, it could've been that certain parts of the media were compromised by the use of tax-payers money making a Journalist or columnist's everyday tasks easier. It could've also been that some failings of individuals in that administration were 'overlooked' due to an in-house discussion of the fallout that may have ensued. This possibility has a worrying aspect as it now puts the media in a powerful position of information-decision -maker and translator of Governmental policy. Heady-stuff that tastes far-better than bananas! Remember, a mistake is only a mistake until you rectify it and then it's gone. Would the airing of political dirty laundry really be beneficial to a media company if they lose ground against their competitors and the position at Government-Information trough? For Eight years, the rules of the game were written in stone and during that time, the evolution of Journalism also continued. The middle-class youngsters who set out into the news-reporting world had grown up in the universe of the internet where conspiracy theories were no longer whispered and held dear. And the water-spraying of the monkeys became a distant memory. 'Big deal, JFK was assassinated by someone... but I'm too you young to remember him anyway!' 'Nixon broke into an office, Yeah -but I wasn't alive at the time and nothing changed did it?' Flying saucers are everyday things that are abundant on YouTube. Bigfoot is just a bunch of guys telling scary stories and the Cold War was something about Russia and spies... like those boring movies with no CGI. With a black President promising hope and the tutors carving out jobs in universities by using guilt tactics against older or fragile superiors, the eight years meant for many rookie-Journalists, a couple of hours at their desk typing a piece that was full of un-researched click-bait and fanciful musings that had no connection with what was really happening to the working class outside of this bubble. The bananas stayed at the top of the ladder and we all got used to enjoying being dry. Then this egoistical businessman lumbered onto the stage. A rich braggart who held the trappings that went along with the elite, yet spoke about subjects that involved a plaid shirt and scuffed working boots. He said vague crazy things that resonated to the working-stiff and an out-of-date patriotic cry in a world of banal globalism. But to get where he wanted to go, he knew he had to hitch his wagon to one of the main parties because when playing in a rigged game, one doesn't sit down as a loner. Any potential from a single entity would be snuffed out by the commanding groups who have already invested heavily in the game. So he chose the Republican Party, a group that held similar views of his own. A bit odd for this loud-mouthed rich old-guy who didn't ingratiate himself with the contemporary upper-middle-class youth. He spoke of free market capitalism and a strong national defence, the whole persona of this man from a television programme smacked of conceited privilege that never knew what the United States was really about. There was no hushed words of diversity or opportunities for minorities, this man with the red tie talked in way that implied a citizen should roll-up their sleeves and get to making America great again! I mean... come on, don't we have 'other' people to do that? What he was really saying and certainly to Journalists, was ignore the spray of water... claim the steps as your own and share the bananas around. But the media had become used to the dryness and it's not that they don't want to change, it's that they don't know how to and instead of admitting it, they will do whatever it takes to stop anyone climbing those ladders. RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - Mystic Wanderer - 02-17-2017 Excellent post @"BIAD" RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - Mystic Wanderer - 02-17-2017 @"BIAD" wrote: Quote: In President Trump's case, this isn't so. Well, just look who owns the media... only six companies own and control 90% of ALL the media in the U.S.! [/url] [url=http://www.businessinsider.com/this-chart-shows-the-bilderberg-groups-connection-to-everything-in-the-world-2012-6] Now, if you wish to do some research on your own, you'll find that these six companies are run by a few ELITE families at the very top of the pyramid. These families want the New World Order in play so they can control the world with one dictator in charge of EVERYTHING! Trump threw a wrench into their plans, so they are using their news outlets to lie and twist everything around to make him look bad. So... I'll take, "The media have been ordered to behave in this negative manner" for $1,000, please Alex. RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - BIAD - 02-17-2017 (02-17-2017, 05:34 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: ...Now, if you wish to do some research on your own, you'll find that these six companies are I can see that it would look obvious that the voices from up on high have sent down the command to Journalists to berate Trump's time in office, but I think that if this is true, it must be so really subtle that it's not sensed in a normal manner. Because it would mean that all of the Reporters in the mainstream media that hold jobs in these particular outlets can never-never relate to their friends and loved-ones that they're carving and moulding information to cater for their superiors. It also obviously means everyone in mainstream media would have to be in on it to some extent. However, I'm ruling that out because it's happened before. RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - Mystic Wanderer - 02-17-2017 (02-17-2017, 05:52 PM)BIAD Wrote:(02-17-2017, 05:34 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: ...Now, if you wish to do some research on your own, you'll find that these six companies are Was it you, or someone else here, who had a thread up about how the news casters read from a scripted thingamajig? I remember that they had the very same script on several news outlets. Yeah, it's happened MANY times before. RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - BIAD - 02-17-2017 (02-17-2017, 08:35 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: Was it you, or someone else here, who had a thread up about how the I think it was Jude or 1984 or Sky. But I'd be hesitant to call that proof of a conspiracy and just put it down to lazy research for genuine news. I'll try to find the information where Journalists were taking privately on a restricted forum about how to disrupt a dispute about gaming Journalism being performed in a manner that favoured a lax manner and done for less than honourable reasons. I agree it happens and if Trump gets his way, the advertising companies that deal with these news outlets need to be informed. That way, this particular swamp will get drained. The latest episode with 'Pewdiepie' being kicked off YouTube may have an effect in this manner. RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - BIAD - 02-19-2017 A quiet Sunday morning and after putting the coffee on, I clicked on the television to peruse the weekend news. I always enjoy Sunday news outlets because that's the time of the week that reviews of that week, commentary and a general light-heartedness holds sway. A time when you can just sit back and soak in the caffeine and the manipulating bullsh*t. ''Trump has spent nine million dollars on vacations already..." a commentator on Sky News read from a Sunday newspaper. "...You know, that's more than Michelle and Barack spent in a whole year" the dark-haired 'Journalist' informed the gullible viewer and I noted that she'd put Soetoro's Obama's wife's name in first. There on the screen, President Trump and the First Lady Melania were seen standing on the top of the steps just after arriving in Florida on Air-Force One. They were in Melbourne, Florida and it was a campaign rally, which all four commentators around the sleek table in the studio felt was odd considering the election was over. Talking over President Trump's berating of the media and how they manipulated information for their own agendas, the group proceeded to discuss how this brazen man still held the strange belief that news companies couldn't be trusted. And never again did this quartet of media-folk speak about the unrelated subject of why they said the new-ish President had allegedly spent a lot of money on vacations and the footage of him coming off an aircraft to talk to the public at a rally. After only glancing at CNN's programme hosted by someone called 'Erin-something or other' and ignoring the fashioned questions she was pushing towards a man who'd recently obtained a position in Trump's administration, I arrived at a fairly new cable channel I'd discovered called 'France 24' Their narrative was different and though I watched with a wary eye, the people who reported the news did so with little 'side-commentary' It was if they were just reading the news! Granted, it was mainly European information and I guessed that when it came to reporting political news of France, the narrative would be favourably slanted, but I was mildly surprised when a young lady appeared with an American accent and spoke of what President Trump's administration was up to. What on earth...? Hardly any venom, very little disdain and completely vacant of contempt for the leader of the world's most powerful country! ................................... I honestly think you're gonna need one of them big poop-sucker trucks to get the American media people out of that swamp! RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - BIAD - 02-19-2017 (02-17-2017, 10:16 PM)BIAD Wrote: ...The latest episode with 'Pewdiepie' being kicked off YouTube may have an Here's a rational view on this YouTube personality and forgive me if I've used the creator of this video before. As a side point, I enjoy his rationality, but the layout of this particular video is very important to understanding what is happening within the mainstream media and the strangle-hold they're failing to maintain. I worked in the media business and believe me, many of them perceive themselves above the readers that pay their wages. And to a rationalist, that isn't healthy. But the mainstream media became complacent in their positions and until the burly man in the White House came along, it was seen as impossible to change. But it's changing and they don't like it. RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - Mystic Wanderer - 02-19-2017 Quote:But the mainstream media became complacent in their positions and until the burly Yes, hallelujah, and it's about time! People are so confused at this point, no one knows what to believe anymore. This man (Trump) has given the people in our country hope, and without hope there isn't much to live for. I can actually look into the future and HOPE that things will someday be as they used to be. I don't know if it will EVER get back to those times, but I have HOPE that it will, and that puts a spring in my step and a smile on my face. RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - guohua - 02-19-2017 (02-19-2017, 02:04 PM)BIAD Wrote:(02-17-2017, 10:16 PM)BIAD Wrote: ...The latest episode with 'Pewdiepie' being kicked off YouTube may have an Quote:But the mainstream media became complacent in their positions and until the burlyExactly, You're Correct! Quote:I worked in the media business and believe me, many of them perceive themselves above the readers that pay their wages. And to a rationalist, that isn't healthy.That You for your Expert Opinion from your Observation and for staying One of Us! RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - BIAD - 02-19-2017 (02-19-2017, 09:34 PM)guohua Wrote: That You for your Expert Opinion from your Observation and for staying One of Us! It's true. I wasn't a Journalist, but my photo-shopping 'skills' were needed and I worked alongside them for years. I recall when another bout of redundancies came round and my department was taking a hit with a possible look at the more-elite of the Journalists. One of them said to another -and these were plum-toned gents who'd been there for thirty-odd years.... "This doesn't concern us, we're above it" That's the mentality. They're 'better' than you and you can never get to their level! So, you can imagine how they'd massage the news for us poor peasants. .................. The sad part is the damage they may have done to many generations with their lies and altered information. It ranges from straight-out manipulation of reports to maintain their trade and pay-rate, all the way through to the subtle stuff like using background visuals to hint at a professional environment with many people working around the clock to bring you up-to-date news. In my little world with a dying local newspaper, the public saw the Prime Minister of the time standing in a room on the paper's premises meeting a Union leader. to discuss an important subject in the region. That's where I was needed. They were in the room, but they were never in the room at the same time! Suicide notes altered to suit a narrative, dead children laying on rail tracks altered for decency purposes, buildings for sale 'spruced-up' to favour a client and a girl's back made to look more burnt because she used a self-service tanning machine and 'someone' wished to purchase the property if it went out of business. The camera never lies, huh? 'Fake News' has been around for a long time! RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - guohua - 02-19-2017 (02-19-2017, 10:17 PM)BIAD Wrote:Most of the Poor Peasants actually believe Journalist Care, how sad.(02-19-2017, 09:34 PM)guohua Wrote: That You for your Expert Opinion from your Observation and for staying One of Us! RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - BIAD - 02-19-2017 (02-19-2017, 10:31 PM)guohua Wrote:Well they don't! They only believe they are the gate-keepers and you cannot(02-19-2017, 10:17 PM)BIAD Wrote:Most of the Poor Peasants actually believe Journalist Care, how sad.(02-19-2017, 09:34 PM)guohua Wrote: That You for your Expert Opinion from your Observation and for staying One of Us! judge them! You wrote '...and for staying One of Us' and the strangest thing was that for the twenty-six years I worked with them, I could never be considered 'one of them' because I was working-class -or blue-collar, in their eyes. The first job I took there was cleaning out toilets and emptying trash cans. So I was cursed from the start! I added a bit more the above post. RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - BIAD - 02-19-2017 (02-19-2017, 10:31 PM)guohua Wrote: Most of the Poor Peasants actually believe Journalist Care, how sad. Most of the 'peasants' still do because of the perception of professionalism displayed on he television and the formal manner the newspapers present their articles. A fancy header, the same style of writing in a report and if it's a piece to entice the reader to purchase the magazine or newspaper, the same basic climb-down in the text so libel isn't offered. It looks noble and since it held the trust from traditionalism, one's perception is difficult to change because of the continuous barrage that anyone who trusts the 'alternative media' is seen as screwed-up conspiracy-theorist. The TV presenters are the worst, any ethics that Journalists fought for in the past are long-forgotten when these wretches appear on the screen and do their thing. But all of them are in a war at the moment because the formed establishment narrative has been exposed when the US election polls got it wrong. I was always puzzled when the UK was going through the industrial strikes and Rupert Murdoch bought 'The News Of The World' There was another guy called Eddie Shah who bought a couple of papers and caused a strike by ridding himself of the printers of he papers. The Journalist union vowed to go on strike and then suddenly... nothing. It all went quiet. I wonder why. RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - BIAD - 02-25-2017 Forgve the obvious sarcastic 'chuntering' below, but I'm attempting to emulate those who believe their scriptures are beyond reproach! I'm writing as an ass-hole Journalist! ........................................... With recent revokings of website sponsorship, Twitter bans and the current mania of what is or isn't fake news, one could be forgiven if taking to one's bed and pulling the covers up high -would be agreed to be a fine decision. (Allowing the reader to come to the conclusion that this isn't initially a heavy piece, but may have portions that the reader will hopefully agree with. It's an old trick of inspiring confidence to settle the viewer into the desired narrative) Now it seems that the British Broadcasting Company, an institution that that is marvelled across the globe for it's accuracy and informativeness, is being doubted by the man currently occupying the White House. (Space to pad the article out on a website and ensure the writer's point isn't missed in the prose) This week, President Trump barred the BBC and other prestigious news-outlets from the White House briefings under the laughable reason that the mainstream media report untrue and biased accounts in regards of his administration and Presidential behavior. So to counter the billionaire's accusations of unfair, partisan points of view, we've maturely -and with deep reflection of his claims, report this: Did Trump win because his name came first in key states? 'One of the world's leading political scientists believes Donald Trump won the US presidential election for a very simple reason, writes Hannah Sander - his name came first on the ballot in some critical swing states. (Another image where the media take the p*ss out of the President's supposedly small hands) Jon Krosnick has spent 30 years studying how voters choose one candidate rather than another, and says that "at least two" US presidents won their elections because their names were listed first on the ballot, in states where the margin of victory was narrow. At first sight Krosnick's idea might seem to make little sense. Are voters really so easily swayed? Most of them are not. "Most of the people that voted Republican were always going to vote Republican and most of the people that voted Democrat were always going to vote Democrat," says James Tilley, professor of politics at the University of Oxford. But a minority are. "There is a human tendency to lean towards the first name listed on the ballot," says Krosnick, a politics professor at Stanford University. "And that has caused increases on average of about three percentage points for candidates, across lots of races and states and years." Political scientists call this the primacy effect. It has the biggest impact on those who know the least about the election they are voting in. You are more likely to be affected, Krosnick says, "if you are feeling uninformed and yet feel obligated to cast a vote - or if you are feeling deeply conflicted, say between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump." When an election is very close the effect can be decisive, Krosnick says - and in some US states, such as Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, the 2016 election was very close...' The BBC: Oh, FFS. RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - guohua - 02-25-2017 @"BIAD" from your post, *"Most of the people that voted Republican were always going to vote Republican and most of the people that voted Democrat were always going to vote Democrat," says James Tilley, professor of politics at the University of Oxford. But a minority are."* This Overeducated Moron didn't even take into account the States That Turned RED by a Majority! WTF He Blind or Really That Stupid! :smallimpatient: RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - BIAD - 02-25-2017 (02-25-2017, 04:53 PM)guohua Wrote: @"BIAD" from your post, *"Most of the people that voted Republican were To simply answer your question, the academics and the the writer are stupid! But the way the article is composed goes to show the biases that these news-outlets don't seem to comprehend. You don't need a keen eye to see sections of what opinion is offered to support and part of some else's theory. It's fragmented with an obvious statement mentioned, but the emphasis to the reader is that it was said by someone from Oxford University. That's supposed to mean it's fact, not connected -but supports the media's narrative and has the air of adroitness, a comment from the 'shiny people'!! You hit on a point that nobody wants to talk about and that's the reality of the election. If the majority voted for someone that MSM are either ordered to or decide 'en mass' to not want as the winner... and that candidate wins, is the same media jeopardising it's reader /viewer audiences by challenging their common sense? Nobody in the media has ever come out and stated that the electorate was wrong, and yet they imply it everyday by their negative comments. They're hoping that they can brow-beat the people into believing the media are right and I assure you, it isn't being done independently. Whether we're all aware of it not, large sections of the mainstream outlets are working to maintain a narrative for a reason I'm not certain of at this time. And they're doing it together. But you're right Boss, they are stupid! RE: Trump launches unprecedented attack on media. - BIAD - 12-08-2017 Staying with the suggestion that the MSM are stupid... Quote:CNN forced to climb down over Trump-WikiLeaks email report.SOURCE: |