Quote:Five people are dead and eight others were injured after a shooting Friday at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, according to the Broward Sheriff's Office.

Deputies confirmed that the shooter is in custody.

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Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., identified the shooter as Esteban Santiago. Nelson said the 26-year-old was carrying a military identification.

Local 10 News reporter Jeff Weinsier was reporting live from the airport when deputies and other law enforcement armed with guns converged upon a parking garage and yelled at someone, "Hands up."

Weinsier said reporters were told to get down.
Deputies said an active search was underway amid reports of additional shots fired at the airport.

Broward County Commissioner Chip LaMarca, whose district includes the airport, said the shooter was a passenger on a Canadian flight who had a checked gun in his luggage. LaMarca said the shooter claimed his bag, took out the gun, loaded it in a bathroom and came out firing.

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Quote:In Nov. 2016, Santiago-Ruiz walked into an FBI office in Anchorage and claimed he was being forced to fight for ISIS, law enforcement sources told CBS News. He was sent to a psychiatric hospital after police were called, sources said. He was also investigated as part of a child porn investigation in either 2011 or 2012, law enforcement sources told CBS News. Three weapons and a computer were seized, but no charges were filed, sources said. Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida said it was unclear whether the military ID was the gunman’s.
“We don’t know a motive at this point,” Nelson said. “This could well be someone who is mentally deranged, or in fact it could be someone who had a much more sinister motive that we have to worry about every day, and that is terrorism. We can’t conclude that.”

But the dead giveaway in Ruiz’s photo below is not just the Kaffiyeh around his neck, even more particular, is him raising his index finger. The Muslim calls the index finger sabbabah, to proclaim there is no god but Allah, a single unique god. This is a sign that he believes that Allah is the unique absolute one (not the Trinity) who sent Muslims to destroy the concept of the Trinity which would be three fingers raised as Orthodox Christians do. This is the signal. If the Nazi has a Seig Heil the Islamist has the sabbabah (index finger) and he raises it on photo ops to declare his allegiance to Allah.

(01-07-2017, 12:43 AM)guohua Wrote: Sad, Just Sad.
They are saying he is a Muslim?

Quote:While breaking the news about the shooter’s identity they seemed to have doctored the photo of who the said was Esteban, showing a man who is clearly dark-skinned in an identity photo of who they said was him, but in CNN’s picture for broadcast, this man appears as white as they come, as the Gateway Pundit pointed out. But before or after, he’s still allegedly not the right Santiago Esteban, according to the International Business Times.

Quote:This is no coincidence, it’s simply what the news-filtering network is known for —- twisting, lying, or completely making things up.

They had to do something to make everyone forget about the racist attack on an innocent Trump-supporter, tortured by a foursome of Barack Obama’s nastiest hoodrats, so they made a presumably innocent man look like a white guy to redirect everyone’s attention back on their divisive agenda — not even using the person’s picture responsible for this attack.
Not only is this guy allegedly not him and not white; the real shooter is probably not conservative, didn’t vote for Trump, and likely had a secret agenda of his own in joining our military.

(01-07-2017, 04:07 AM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: And look how CNN twisted the story, just as they do all their stories, showing the shooter as a white man instead of Muslim.

CNN makes me sick!...

Quote:Esteban Santiago remains a mystery for federal authorities who are trying to piece together just what led a 26-year-old Army veteran with an intense gaze to go on a murderous rampage.

As he sits in detention – after apparently turning himself over to police without a fight – his social media accounts are providing authorities with early clues.

Military Man
On Instagram – beneath a profile statement that reads “Here's to finding whether or not your mission on earth is finished ; if your still alive ... It isn't.” – Santiago is seen in uniform as part of the Army National Guard.

From Dec. 14, 2007 until this past August, the suspected gunman served in the Puerto Rican and Alaskan components of the force, according to Lt. Col. Candis Olmstead, a spokesperson for the Alaskan service.

During his tenure, he was deployed to Iraq from April 2010 until February 2011.

The combat engineer received a discharge for unsatisfactory performance at the rank of E3 – or Private First Class – on Aug. 16.
What he did for work since then remains a mystery.

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(01-07-2017, 02:19 PM)Grace Wrote:

(01-07-2017, 12:43 AM)guohua Wrote: Sad, Just Sad.
They are saying he is a Muslim?

No.. They said he was having mental health problems, and had gone into an FBI field office and said the government was putting thoughts in his head about ISIS that were pro ISIS, pro joining ISIS. 

Quote:But the dead giveaway in Ruiz’s photo below is not just the Kaffiyeh around his neck, even more particular, is him raising his index finger. The Muslim calls the index finger sabbabah, to proclaim there is no god but Allah, a single unique god. This is a sign that he believes that Allah is the unique absolute one (not the Trinity) who sent Muslims to destroy the concept of the Trinity which would be three fingers raised as Orthodox Christians do.

(01-07-2017, 02:43 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:

(01-07-2017, 02:19 PM)Grace Wrote:

(01-07-2017, 12:43 AM)guohua Wrote: Sad, Just Sad.
They are saying he is a Muslim?

No.. They said he was having mental health problems, and had gone into an FBI field office and said the government was putting thoughts in his head about ISIS that were pro ISIS, pro joining ISIS. 

Well, they didn't come right out and say it, but they said there were things... signals... that led them to believe he was. 

Quote:But the dead giveaway in Ruiz’s photo below is not just the Kaffiyeh around his neck, even more particular, is him raising his index finger. The Muslim calls the index finger sabbabah, to proclaim there is no god but Allah, a single unique god. This is a sign that he believes that Allah is the unique absolute one (not the Trinity) who sent Muslims to destroy the concept of the Trinity which would be three fingers raised as Orthodox Christians do.

(taken from previous post)

(01-07-2017, 03:15 PM)Grace Wrote:

(01-07-2017, 02:43 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:

(01-07-2017, 02:19 PM)Grace Wrote:

(01-07-2017, 12:43 AM)guohua Wrote: Sad, Just Sad.
They are saying he is a Muslim?

No.. They said he was having mental health problems, and had gone into an FBI field office and said the government was putting thoughts in his head about ISIS that were pro ISIS, pro joining ISIS. 

Well, they didn't come right out and say it, but they said there were things... signals... that led them to believe he was. 

Quote:But the dead giveaway in Ruiz’s photo below is not just the Kaffiyeh around his neck, even more particular, is him raising his index finger. The Muslim calls the index finger sabbabah, to proclaim there is no god but Allah, a single unique god. This is a sign that he believes that Allah is the unique absolute one (not the Trinity) who sent Muslims to destroy the concept of the Trinity which would be three fingers raised as Orthodox Christians do.

(taken from previous post)

I was attempting to make a specific point,  Hence the 20 or so paragraphs.. but never mind.. it was probably a stupid point anyway..

I deleted.

(01-07-2017, 03:21 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:

(01-07-2017, 03:15 PM)Grace Wrote:

(01-07-2017, 02:43 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:

(01-07-2017, 02:19 PM)Grace Wrote:

(01-07-2017, 12:43 AM)guohua Wrote: Sad, Just Sad.
They are saying he is a Muslim?

No.. They said he was having mental health problems, and had gone into an FBI field office and said the government was putting thoughts in his head about ISIS that were pro ISIS, pro joining ISIS. 

Well, they didn't come right out and say it, but they said there were things... signals... that led them to believe he was. 

Quote:But the dead giveaway in Ruiz’s photo below is not just the Kaffiyeh around his neck, even more particular, is him raising his index finger. The Muslim calls the index finger sabbabah, to proclaim there is no god but Allah, a single unique god. This is a sign that he believes that Allah is the unique absolute one (not the Trinity) who sent Muslims to destroy the concept of the Trinity which would be three fingers raised as Orthodox Christians do.

(taken from previous post)

I was attempting to make a specific point,  Hence the 20 or so paragraphs.. but never mind.. it was probably a stupid point anyway..

I deleted.

No, no @grace!   We posted our replies at the same time.  I didn't see your reply until after mine went up.   You have just as much right to state your point as anyone else here.  
I wasn't posting a reply based on what you said.  Don't take it that way.  Put it back up!

Quote:I wondered many times if I had lost my mind surrounding when I was saved and became Christian, and it took me a while to decide conclusively I had not. And that experience was all good, I certainly wasn't having overwhelming feelings of joining up with ISIS. Yet I had some serious doubts at times as to my own sanity, until i worked through everything. 

What if, I had the same experience but in reverse, namely, ISIS and Islam instead of Jesus and Christianity? Heck, if I once had been in the national guard and deployed to Iraq like this guy, I might have wondered if I had been a part of some government experiment too.

(01-07-2017, 03:37 PM)Sol Wrote: So let me get this straight.

The guy has some history. Could be an ISIS sympathizer. I say could be. Could have past serious mental issues. I think most probably.

Yet he travels with a gun that he can then load in a washroom at check out.

He's not the only asshole in this story.

(01-07-2017, 03:37 PM)Sol Wrote: So let me get this straight.

The guy has some history. Could be an ISIS sympathizer. I say could be. Could have past serious mental issues. I think most probably.

Yet he travels with a gun that he can then load in a washroom at check out.

He's not the only asshole in this story.

Quote:Airport shooter admits he was ‘mind controlled’ by intelligence agency, eyewitness claims there were at least three other “sleepers,” shooters, with high-powered rifles shooting into crowd.

Quote:FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (INTELLIHUB) — Demoted and discharged Alaska National Guard private first class and alleged killer of 5 people at the Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, Esteban Santiago, 26, may have been mind controlled or mentally ill, according to FBI officials.
Santiago, who was arrested in January and waiting to stand trial in March on criminal charges, recently showed up to an F.B.I. office in Anchorage unannounced seeking help.

Santiago told the F.B.I. he thought he was being mind controlled, possibly by the U.S. government or the C.I.A. and admitted hearing voices, which Santiago said told him to study “extremist materials on the Internet,” the New York Times reports.
Despite the fact that Santiago himself, his girlfriend, and even co-workers warned authorities of his experiences the F.B.I. failed to detain him before his travels to Florida.

“Records show Santiago had three driver’s licenses from Alaska, New York and Puerto Rico,” along with his military I.D., which were all on his person during Friday’s shooting, as reported by a local ABC news affiliate.

Just like a Manchurian candidate, Santiago “walked to the baggage claim area, where witnesses said he pulled the trigger and appeared to be aiming at victims’ heads. Witnesses said Santiago didn’t say a word. He shot his weapon until he ran out of ammunition. He threw the gun down and laid spread-eagle on the ground until a Broward Sheriffs’ Office deputy came up to him.”

USA Today reports:

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Yet the troubling episode is now part of an emerging profile of a deeply disturbed man described by his aunt Friday as someone who had “lost his mind.”

Maria Luisa Ruiz of Union City, N.J., said her nephew, who had moved to Alaska for work as a security guard, only recently began to show signs of instability.

“Like a month ago, it was like he lost his mind,” she said “He said he saw things.”

Additionally, it is also important to point out that Former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer was present at the airport during the shooting and was live-tweeting details about the situation.

Moreover, an eyewitness to the actual event maintains that after they caught the first guy “there had to be three sleepers [three other shooters].”

“[…] we could see inside literally where the windows — you could see the fire coming from the barrels. There was like at least three people in there still shooting. Like it was like a high-powered rifle, like an AR or something […]. They was non-stop shooting. Like they just started hitting different people inside the crowd. We had to leave. We had to get on the roof.”

(01-07-2017, 05:22 PM)Daitengu Wrote: Mystic Wanderer

(01-07-2017, 03:37 PM)Sol Wrote: So let me get this straight.

The guy has some history. Could be an ISIS sympathizer. I say could be. Could have past serious mental issues. I think most probably.

Yet he travels with a gun that he can then load in a washroom at check out.

He's not the only asshole in this story.

You made a good point!  I forgot about that. 

Yes, that is a VERY important point!  "They" allowed him to carry a gun so he could carry out "their" act of terror.
And, yeah, I think the only mental issues he has were put there by the mind control they did on him. 

(see above reply)

Good to see you again, Sol.   :minusculehi:

As long as its properly secured in locked container and in checked in luggage NOT carryon luggage you can travel with firearms .

Quote:I agree, the point I am making though is that the guy has a history or mental issues.

I am not one for gun control but it seems that mental issues and guns don't go well together and often end up costing innocent people's lives.

Mind control or not, why would a guy having a history of mental issues, transpiring that he could be a danger to himself or others be allowed having a gun in his possession, even more so traveling with it?

Just questioning the fact. : )