Quote:On par with the rest of 2020 so far.

"Department of Community Safety and Violence Prevention.”

(06-27-2020, 06:47 AM)MisterSpock Wrote: This city council is cancer.

https://www.fox9.com/news/minneapolis-council-members-get-private-security-after-threats

Yes..."white supremes....". 

That must be it.

I've lived in MN my whole life, I've NEVER met anyone that is overtly racist. The few people I have met, that say some "questionable" things in private, those "thoughts" seem to disappear as I see them in their everyday life treating everyone the same. By same I mean extremely helpful and polite. 

It's all victim points and pandering with these people. Usually I wouldn't care, but they are literally chasing that "clout" by putting peoples lives on the line.

(06-27-2020, 07:30 AM)MisterSpock Wrote: I was out tonight with a few friends that are ex military, one has done a lot of private sector work. 

I said now is the time, if any, to go back into the private security business, or better yet start his own company. 

(06-27-2020, 12:11 PM)Raggedyman Wrote: Sorry a bit confused, who is going to staff this non violent, non police force, ex police, hippies, bikie gangs.

(06-27-2020, 01:51 PM)Wallfire Wrote: When some where is invaded its among the first things is to take control of the authority's then take control of the police or replace the police with your own

(06-27-2020, 06:50 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(06-27-2020, 02:06 AM)Ahabstar Wrote: PPPPPP

Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance

These guys use the same ammo and magazine. 

That's not very PC.

You need more diversity in your weapons collection.

I'll send the Diversity Manager round to counsel you in proper weapons diversity.


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(06-27-2020, 01:51 PM)Wallfire Wrote: When some where is invaded its among the first things is to take control of the authority's then take control of the police or replace the police with your own

(06-27-2020, 12:40 AM)xuenchen Wrote: The entire City Council of Minneapolis MN has voted to abolish their police force !!!! 

(06-27-2020, 06:34 PM)veteranhumanbeing Wrote: They might consider getting rid of the crime element first before abolishing "Peace Officers".

(06-27-2020, 06:58 PM)Schmoe1 Wrote: In my lifetime I've always had positive interactions with police, minus one, but assholes exist in all facets of employment across the globe.  He may be a great person, and I just caught him on a bad day, who knows.

(06-27-2020, 07:15 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(06-27-2020, 06:58 PM)Schmoe1 Wrote: In my lifetime I've always had positive interactions with police, minus one, but assholes exist in all facets of employment across the globe.  He may be a great person, and I just caught him on a bad day, who knows.

The problem with Law Enforcement boils down to one thing: the law.

See, if a good guy totally smashes a bad guy ... the good guy knows there's a tremendous likelihood he'll be prosecuted for his actions.

When I was a kid, my dad would beat the living Hell out of anyone who was a public nuisance or a public menace.  People feared my dad.  People who didn't even know him would feel grave danger just being in his presence.  Now, I say this about my dad, but it wasn't uncommon for this to happen around any man of his time.

These days men behave like this (skip right to :29) 
Now the cops are 'looking' for the two thugs who threw that wimp a beating.  But that's the way it is.  Had the guy pulled out a gun and shot those two thugs to death (like good ol' Bernie Goetz), he'd have gone to jail just like Bernie did.  Because ... you got it ... the cops would have been sent 'round to arrest him.

Quote:Ministries of Oceania[edit]                                                      link

Main article: Ministries of Nineteen Eighty-Four
In London, the capital city of Airstrip One, Oceania's four government ministries are in pyramids (300 m high), the façades of which display the Party's three slogans. As mentioned, the ministries' names are the opposite (doublethink) of their true functions: "The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation." (Part II, Chapter IX – The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism)
Ministry of Peace[edit]
The Ministry of Peace supports Oceania's perpetual war against either of the two other superstates:

Quote:The primary aim of modern warfare (in accordance with the principles of doublethink, this aim is simultaneously recognised and not recognised by the directing brains of the Inner Party) is to use up the products of the machine without raising the general standard of living. Ever since the end of the nineteenth century, the problem of what to do with the surplus of consumption goods has been latent in industrial society. At present, when few human beings even have enough to eat, this problem is obviously not urgent, and it might not have become so, even if no artificial processes of destruction had been at work.

Ministry of Plenty[edit]
The Ministry of Plenty rations and controls food, goods, and domestic production; every fiscal quarter, it publishes false claims of having raised the standard of living, when it has, in fact, reduced rations, availability and production. The Ministry of Truth substantiates the Ministry of Plenty's claims by revising historical records to report numbers supporting the current "increased rations".
Ministry of Truth[edit]
The Ministry of Truth controls information: news, entertainment, education, and the arts. Winston Smith works in the Minitrue RecDep (Records Department), "rectifying" historical records to concord with Big Brother's current pronouncements so that everything the Party says is true.
Ministry of Love[edit]
The Ministry of Love identifies, monitors, arrests and converts real and imagined dissidents. In Winston's experience, the dissident is beaten and tortured, and, when near-broken, he is sent to Room 101 to face "the worst thing in the world"—until love for Big Brother and the Party replaces dissension.

(06-27-2020, 07:15 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(06-27-2020, 06:58 PM)Schmoe1 Wrote: In my lifetime I've always had positive interactions with police, minus one, but assholes exist in all facets of employment across the globe.  He may be a great person, and I just caught him on a bad day, who knows.

The problem with Law Enforcement boils down to one thing: the law.

See, if a good guy totally smashes a bad guy ... the good guy knows there's a tremendous likelihood he'll be prosecuted for his actions.

When I was a kid, my dad would beat the living Hell out of anyone who was a public nuisance or a public menace.  People feared my dad.  People who didn't even know him would feel grave danger just being in his presence.  Now, I say this about my dad, but it wasn't uncommon for this to happen around any man of his time.

These days men behave like this (skip right to :29) 
Now the cops are 'looking' for the two thugs who threw that wimp a beating.  But that's the way it is.  Had the guy pulled out a gun and shot those two thugs to death (like good ol' Bernie Goetz), he'd have gone to jail just like Bernie did.  Because ... you got it ... the cops would have been sent 'round to arrest him.

(06-27-2020, 08:24 PM)Schmoe1 Wrote: I don't know what it was like in the 50s, but consideration of others has steadily taken a nosedive, because people know they can behave like assholes and you can't do anything about it without serious consequences.

(06-27-2020, 08:48 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:

(06-27-2020, 08:24 PM)Schmoe1 Wrote: I don't know what it was like in the 50s, but consideration of others has steadily taken a nosedive, because people know they can behave like assholes and you can't do anything about it without serious consequences.

I lived in the 50s, and even then, you wouldn't get away with beating someone down because they were just rude of obnoxious. Physical attacks are a different thing, and most of the time you just fought it out, unless the battle was too one sided, or when the beat down did not fit the offense.

Living in the country was a bit different. Most did not have telephones and I believe we had one Sheriff and maybe three Deputies in an 100 miles of diameter. So, getting the police on scene was not an easy feat. Small problems were generally handled within the community, and I guess that is why we were so tight. Disputes that required the police generally involved legal disputes like land, property, livestock, and crops. Personal problems only involved the law when they got out of hand, or the injured party felt they had not been treated justly.

Country folk can sometimes take the stance of "it is not my business" too far, but they can change on a dime when they think it is all of their business.