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There and here at the same time .
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(08-12-2020, 11:48 AM)hutch622 Wrote:
(08-12-2020, 10:59 AM)Bally002 Wrote:
(08-12-2020, 06:15 AM)hutch622 Wrote:
(08-12-2020, 05:54 AM)guohua Wrote: I would think the light with its images would be aged by the amount of time in years it took those images to travel to our eyesight and if it takes 2.5 Billion years for an image at that exact time to reach you, the next image could be of a White Dwarf Star because as the Star is 2.5 Billion years old, it could have past its life span. I always thought we were looking at the past.
Or,,,, I don't know!
Yes i get what your saying and it does take 2.5 billion years to get here , in our timeline . But for things travelling at the speed of light time stops as i understand it . So would not that particle of light not experiencing time be in its own timeline both here and there at the same time . And yes we are always seeing things things that happened in the past .

Hi mate, from a time dilation perspective and I'm no physics expert.  The faster you go your mass increases but that indifferent to what I hope I can explain.  If you achieve the speed of light albeit in atom form you are still aging.  Kinda like decaying rad atoms.  Perhaps you are getting older.

The differential in the way I see it, anyone travelling at what ever speed certainly ages but as acceleration and mass increases along with it (E=M x C squared) other things around you are still travelling at their own speed and/or relativity to you.  So in essence.  Your speed if approaching light speed outruns the normal time continuum as we see day to day.  Which essentially places you into a future with regards to those left behind at our regular speed.

Now I have no idea that time will stop for you if you hit light speed.  I have never read that anywhere but time would certainly seem different for those who were not travelling at your speed.   Think of it along the old Einsteins train travelling on a track and relative to a person standing still as to a person on the train.  Both will see and hear things different.  Check it it out.  

Now here's the unexplained equation if you believe the universe is expanding.   Light from other galaxies near the center of the universe, although thought to travel at the speed of light, is taking longer to reach us relative to the speed of the stellar objects travelling towards us or away in another direction.  Hence I believe that the light from objects accelerating in the opposite direction relative to our movement from the center of the known universe hasn't reached us yet and that is my understanding.  In saying that, time hasn't stopped for that of which light can't be discerned, it just in all probability will never reach us...but...there is time ticking over at a rate for those unseen objects.  

If you travel away at vast speeds, your aging in your position seems normal.  But, time dilation kicks in and for us poor bludgers here observing, we will will appear to age quicker as you accelerate and upon your return after a time we may be dead and the planet is in a future aspect to you.

I'm digging a hole for myself here so I'll have to leave it at that as the acceleration in the Einstein equation is meant to be a constant.  Maybe there is someone who could explain it better than my convoluted understandning.

Kind regards,

bally:)

Stopping time
Apparently you can stop time as in the link above and that's why i asked the question . Honestly when it comes to some of the more complex quantum physics theories i just go , huh , to be honest . Time dilation i will look up to be sure although im pretty sure i have crossed that theory before .
Fun fact . Do you remember the old televisions where if it wasn't tuned just right you used to get what we called snow on the screen . Apparently around 1% of that snow is actually left over radiation from the big bang .
Static
Bloody universe does my head in at times.

This is where I have difficulty in getting my head around it and explaining it.  By all means time can stop for the atom/photon but exists in the continuum meaning we all get older but the traveler, existing in that constant, to me, still ages but relative to our time doesn't.

errr, I'm digging a deeper hole for myself.  Look at parallel universes in my old thread in 'Long Stories'.  It does help.  Or it doesn't.  

Kind regards mate,

Bally:)


Messages In This Thread
There and here at the same time . - by hutch622 - 08-12-2020, 05:46 AM
RE: There and here at the same time . - by guohua - 08-12-2020, 05:54 AM
RE: There and here at the same time . - by Sol - 08-12-2020, 11:16 AM
RE: There and here at the same time . - by Bally002 - 08-12-2020, 12:07 PM
RE: There and here at the same time . - by gordi - 08-12-2020, 11:34 AM
RE: There and here at the same time . - by PLOTUS - 08-13-2020, 10:21 PM
RE: There and here at the same time . - by guohua - 08-12-2020, 07:16 AM
RE: There and here at the same time . - by Sol - 08-12-2020, 08:17 PM
RE: There and here at the same time . - by guohua - 08-13-2020, 09:50 PM
RE: There and here at the same time . - by guohua - 08-12-2020, 11:31 PM
RE: There and here at the same time . - by Snarl - 08-14-2020, 01:49 PM

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