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Ongoing puberty suppression should be an available treatment option for non-binary ad
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(08-04-2020, 03:24 AM)Freija Wrote: What? No comments about chromosomes, mental disorders, mutilation, social contagion, the liberal agenda, too young to know, endocrine disruptors in the water and gay frogs, long term consequences and regret, dangerous hormone treatments, the school system, child abuse, and no one identifying as an attack helicopter or Spider-Man? This place really is different from ”that other place” and I’m truly surprised. Nice! (and thank you rogues!)

Ummm... I self-identify as a large black Dire Wolf, and am therefore the last living representative of my species on your planet. It's a very lonely existence. Will that work?

In all honesty, this "self identification" trap is some bullshit. You either ARE something, or you ain't, and "Self identification" means nothing. It's just an invented mess that has recently come on to the scene just to confuse folks and make them look small when they don't get right with the program. For example, you are a woman. You don't "self-identify" as a woman, you just ARE one. I'm a simple man, with a simple mind, and that is how I keep everything straight in my own world.

A phrase that confuses me to no end is "trans-woman" or "trans-man". I don't know how to unpack those phrases, is that person a man who became a woman, or a woman who became a man, or vice-versa? What bearing does "trans" have on life in the real world? What does what one WAS matter in what one now IS? Why can we not simplify and see what is, and ignore what was? I'd be a great deal happier if folks would just come out and say what they ARE, and leave out the confusing qualifier of "trans" out of the matter altogether. In general, among acquaintances, I don't need to know what was in order to process what is unless there is intimacy on the horizon and I might encounter unexpected plumbing. Now THAT might start a lively conversation!

Quote:Having heard these things for several years over there, I was honestly expecting and prepared for more of the same here considering the conservative slant of this board but if it matters, I myself am highly critical of the “transgender movement”, activism and rhetoric feeling it detrimental to those genuinely transsexual and especially so for those truly and innately trans as children like I was.

Well, I AM a Conservative, but an old-school Conservative, not one of these Neocons who try to pass off their Marxist BS as "Conservative", and who have come to represent conservatism in the last few years to the point that younger folks think they somehow ARE conservative when they are not. That may not make much sense to many folks, so it may be easier to say I'm a Conservative as conservatives were 200 years ago. We don't care who you are, or what we can get from you or make you do. We are content to live our lives, and for you to live yours, as each of us see fit to do.

That's why I don't understand the members of the LGBTQXYZ community who feel a need to throw it in your face - the "this is what I am, and you WILL like it!" sort of thing. I don't care what they are, and I don't have to like anything. Is it not enough that I accept it, and get on with my own life and leave them to get on with theirs? WHY must I LIKE it? After all, if I'm not involved in it, it ain't none of my business. It makes no sense to my simple mind.

Quote:Until she encouraged me to, I had never spoken anywhere about my past but have since learned the value of doing so in order to help others to learn about the condition but this is something I’ve only done online because in the real world, this isn’t something I want known about me. People jump to conclusions that are nearly always wrong and for some, it can change their perception entirely even if you’ve never been or lived as a man and it’s frustrating that people might think I know anything about that. It is also a bit dangerous especially among the rednecks, cowboys and retards (oops!) I hang out with as there are still many that simply hate people like me for existing. 

I'm a redneck, of the hillbilly sort, and don't hate anyone for simply existing. We've all got that right, the right to exist unmolested. Now, I may get pretty frustrated with folks when their political ideology overrides and attempts to force conquest of my own, but that's a horse of a different color from mere existence. Simple existence is not a problem - it's when folks try to force me into their own mold that problems develop, as then they are questioning MY existence. If I ain't questioning theirs, they need to be leaving mine alone, too.

Quote:I’ll be the first to admit there is so much wrong surrounding all this and that people have strong, mostly uninformed opinions about it all which unfortunately have been politicized by the left AND the right turning what once was purely a medical condition into a political football and ammunition in the culture wars. It makes me sad. People like me, the “normal” ones aren’t out to change the world and rules of society to accommodate and accept us. In fact, those rules of society and culture and even perhaps stereotypes to a degree are the things with which we want to abide in order to fit in and disappear as normal every day men and women. Those that don’t want to or can’t and the 256 gender types and “non-binaries” and those clamoring for attention are the ones most often heard about that are unrepresentative of folks like me and I tend to get a little bit angry about that.

I can understand that. Those Heinz-57 types also threaten YOUR existence, trying to force folks like you out into the open where they become vulnerable to the whims of lesser folk, and that ain't cool. Live and let live, let folks just be folks. There is no reason to force an agenda down someone else's throat, unless the forcer is somehow insecure in their own skin and needs validation from outside themselves. To be brutally honest, they won't find that here - the moment they try to force an agenda on me is the instant they won't get acceptance of their agenda. It's theirs, not mine. I've got my own troubles to deal with, ain't got time for theirs.

Quote:Being of trans experience and having a “sex-changed” biologically male body does have its share of things to deal with and I’m open to questions about that or how I have navigated disclosing my past with those I have had deeper relationships with. For those that are interested in knowing more, please don’t be afraid to ask. How else will people who want to, get to learn about this stuff if it isn’t talked about and here’s your chance to hear things straight from the horse’s mouth.

--Elisabeth

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I don’t “identify” as a horse. Haha!  tinybiggrin

Well, since you brought it up, I do have to wonder about the interpersonal relationships aspect of life. I just cannot fathom how that conversation goes, how one navigates that minefield, as I've never had to deal with it. I wouldn't even begin to know how to. I DID run into a fella once whose girlfriend would only engage in oral sex, on him, refused it on herself, and he never understood why until he forced the issue and found she had a dangler same as him. That didn't go well for either of them.

I'm very glad you don't "identify" as a horse. As a Dire Wolf myself, I'm afraid that if you did, the hunt would be on!

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’




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RE: Ongoing puberty suppression should be an available treatment option for non-binary ad - by Ninurta - 08-04-2020, 07:20 AM

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