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Another Pandemic Headed Our Way?
#1
This may have needed to go in a political forum; if so, a MOD can move it.

Looks like China is working on another pandemic for the world since the Covid-19 fizzled out quicker than they wanted.

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Quote:A new strain of flu that has the potential to become a pandemic has been identified in China by scientists.
It emerged recently and is carried by pigs, but can infect humans, they say.

The researchers are concerned that it could mutate further so that it can spread easily from person to person, and trigger a global outbreak.

While it is not an immediate problem, they say, it has "all the hallmarks" of being highly adapted to infect humans and needs close monitoring.

As it's new, people could have little or no immunity to the virus.

Pandemic threat
A bad new strain of influenza is among the top disease threats that experts are watching for, even as the world attempts to bring to an end the current coronavirus pandemic.

The last pandemic flu the world encountered - the swine flu outbreak of 2009 that began in Mexico - was less deadly than initially feared, largely because many older people had some immunity to it, probably because of its similarity to other flu viruses that had circulated years before.

That virus, called A/H1N1pdm09, is now covered by the annual flu vaccine to make sure people are protected.

The new flu strain that has been identified in China is similar to 2009 swine flu, but with some new changes.

So far, it hasn't posed a big threat, but Prof Kin-Chow Chang and colleagues who have been studying it, say it is one to keep an eye on.

The virus, which the researchers call G4 EA H1N1, can grow and multiply in the cells that line the human airways.
They found evidence of recent infection starting in people who worked in abattoirs and the swine industry in China.

Current flu vaccines do not appear to protect against it, although they could be adapted to do so if needed.

Prof Kin-Chow Chang, who works at Nottingham University in the UK, told the BBC: "Right now we are distracted with coronavirus and rightly so. But we must not lose sight of potentially dangerous new viruses."
While this new virus is not an immediate problem, he says: "We should not ignore it".

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Get prepared people! They are telling you what to expect in the future. If people don't buy into the second wave of Covid-19 fear porn enough to submit to mail in voting, they'll see to it we get this one next.
And, oh looky, another vaccine for Big Pharma to work on too. tinyok
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#2
I suppose they finally saw the financial opportunity in creating viruses to make vaccines for.  

I don't always subscribe to doom porn, but when I do, I stock up on canned good and ammo.  Yes that was said in the Dos Equis guys voice.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all outta bubblegum."

-Roddy Piper
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#3
(06-30-2020, 03:04 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote: I suppose they finally saw the financial opportunity in creating viruses to make vaccines for.  

I don't always subscribe to doom porn, but when I do, I stock up on canned good and ammo.  Yes that was said in the Dos Equis guys voice.

I always keep at least a two months supply of food on hand. You never know what to expect these days.

Guess I better start buying an extra pack of tissue every week now. Lesson learned this last time around. You would have thought it was gold.

Gun and ammo at the ready.   smallwink
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#4
I think the "scary" part here is that this can all be done every year, and even year round.

Doesnt actually require a new virus or anything, just the right people in the right places and the right marketing.

It would setup a nightmarish level of dependency and control, and not just for the medical establishment and pharmaceutical companies.

Literally all public health issues could be blamed on whatever the Virus du Jour happens to be, leaving industries and governments able to eschew safety and regulations entirely.

Something like the lead situation in Flint, MI could just be added to the symptoms list. Wouldn't even have to "get rid" of the regulations themselves.. Just blame it on The Virus of the Week.
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#5
(06-30-2020, 03:33 AM)Serdgiam Wrote: I think the "scary" part here is that this can all be done every year, and even year round.

Doesnt actually require a new virus or anything, just the right people in the right places and the right marketing.

It would setup a nightmarish level of dependency and control, and not just for the medical establishment and pharmaceutical companies.

Literally all public health issues could be blamed on whatever the Virus du Jour happens to be, leaving industries and governments able to eschew safety and regulations entirely.

Something like the lead situation in Flint, MI could just be added to the symptoms list. Wouldn't even have to "get rid" of the regulations themselves.. Just blame it on The Virus of the Week.
 Well, I have run out of scared. 

We all are going to die at sometime, from something. I don't have time to fear the where and when. 

I am going for the gusto, and I plan to enjoy the blessings received from the little things, for they are plentiful. I will cherish the moment, and leave the seconds hoping they will become hours and years of  beautiful memories.
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(06-30-2020, 03:16 AM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:
(06-30-2020, 03:04 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote: I suppose they finally saw the financial opportunity in creating viruses to make vaccines for.  

I don't always subscribe to doom porn, but when I do, I stock up on canned good and ammo.  Yes that was said in the Dos Equis guys voice.

I always keep at least a two months supply of food on hand. You never know what to expect these days.

Guess I better start buying an extra pack of tissue every week now. Lesson learned this last time around. You would have thought it was gold.

Gun and ammo at the ready.   smallwink

I hear ya, better safe than sorry.  I'd be a liar if I said the last few months haven't gotten to me, I've been reading a lot about survival, but I'm not anywhere near where I'd like to be with canned and dried food.

At least I have a rifle and fishing tackle I guess lol
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all outta bubblegum."

-Roddy Piper
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#7
(06-30-2020, 04:54 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote:
(06-30-2020, 03:16 AM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:
(06-30-2020, 03:04 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote: I suppose they finally saw the financial opportunity in creating viruses to make vaccines for.  

I don't always subscribe to doom porn, but when I do, I stock up on canned good and ammo.  Yes that was said in the Dos Equis guys voice.

I always keep at least a two months supply of food on hand. You never know what to expect these days.

Guess I better start buying an extra pack of tissue every week now. Lesson learned this last time around. You would have thought it was gold.

Gun and ammo at the ready.   smallwink

I hear ya, better safe than sorry.  I'd be a liar if I said the last few months haven't gotten to me, I've been reading a lot about survival, but I'm not anywhere near where I'd like to be with canned and dried food.

At least I have a rifle and fishing tackle I guess lol

This is my food supply. It has a 25 year shelf life. Been buying more every time I have extra money.
May be full of preservatives, but at least I'll have something to eat. I can work on detoxing later. Also have bags of pinto beans and rice I buy at the store, canned spaghetti, tuna, beef stew, etc.

https://mypatriotsupply.com/pages/rs-rep...red.pill78
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(06-30-2020, 05:07 AM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:
(06-30-2020, 04:54 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote:
(06-30-2020, 03:16 AM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:
(06-30-2020, 03:04 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote: I suppose they finally saw the financial opportunity in creating viruses to make vaccines for.  

I don't always subscribe to doom porn, but when I do, I stock up on canned good and ammo.  Yes that was said in the Dos Equis guys voice.

I always keep at least a two months supply of food on hand. You never know what to expect these days.

Guess I better start buying an extra pack of tissue every week now. Lesson learned this last time around. You would have thought it was gold.

Gun and ammo at the ready.   smallwink

I hear ya, better safe than sorry.  I'd be a liar if I said the last few months haven't gotten to me, I've been reading a lot about survival, but I'm not anywhere near where I'd like to be with canned and dried food.

At least I have a rifle and fishing tackle I guess lol

This is my food supply. It has a 25 year shelf life. Been buying more every time I have extra money.
May be full of preservatives, but at least I'll have something to eat. I can work on detoxing later. Also have bags of pinto beans and rice I buy at the store, canned spaghetti, tuna, beef stew, etc.

https://mypatriotsupply.com/pages/rs-rep...red.pill78

25 years?!  That's amazing, thanks for that link I've never heard of those containers.  Now I just have to convince the wife to buy 4 lol
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all outta bubblegum."

-Roddy Piper
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#9
(06-30-2020, 03:47 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(06-30-2020, 03:33 AM)Serdgiam Wrote: I think the "scary" part here is that this can all be done every year, and even year round.

Doesnt actually require a new virus or anything, just the right people in the right places and the right marketing.

It would setup a nightmarish level of dependency and control, and not just for the medical establishment and pharmaceutical companies.

Literally all public health issues could be blamed on whatever the Virus du Jour happens to be, leaving industries and governments able to eschew safety and regulations entirely.

Something like the lead situation in Flint, MI could just be added to the symptoms list. Wouldn't even have to "get rid" of the regulations themselves.. Just blame it on The Virus of the Week.
 Well, I have run out of scared. 

We all are going to die at sometime, from something. I don't have time to fear the where and when. 

I am going for the gusto, and I plan to enjoy the blessings received from the little things, for they are plentiful. I will cherish the moment, and leave the seconds hoping they will become hours and years of  beautiful memories.

Certainly true, I just guess Im not a big fan of that natural course of events happening in the backdrop of a dystopian hellscape  tinyhuh

FWIW, for ~$1,000 you can build a pretty good size aquaponics system that delivers food year-round in perpetuity. Instead of a four month supply of emergency food that sits in a cubbard "just in case."
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#10
(06-30-2020, 05:53 PM)Serdgiam Wrote:
(06-30-2020, 03:47 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(06-30-2020, 03:33 AM)Serdgiam Wrote: I think the "scary" part here is that this can all be done every year, and even year round.

Doesnt actually require a new virus or anything, just the right people in the right places and the right marketing.

It would setup a nightmarish level of dependency and control, and not just for the medical establishment and pharmaceutical companies.

Literally all public health issues could be blamed on whatever the Virus du Jour happens to be, leaving industries and governments able to eschew safety and regulations entirely.

Something like the lead situation in Flint, MI could just be added to the symptoms list. Wouldn't even have to "get rid" of the regulations themselves.. Just blame it on The Virus of the Week.
 Well, I have run out of scared. 

We all are going to die at sometime, from something. I don't have time to fear the where and when. 

I am going for the gusto, and I plan to enjoy the blessings received from the little things, for they are plentiful. I will cherish the moment, and leave the seconds hoping they will become hours and years of  beautiful memories.

Certainly true, I just guess Im not a big fan of that natural course of events happening in the backdrop of a dystopian hellscape  tinyhuh

FWIW, for ~$1,000 you can build a pretty good size aquaponics system that delivers food year-round in perpetuity. Instead of a four month supply of emergency food that sits in a cubbard "just in case."

That's probably the best option for people in the country with lots of land. Good, fresh, home-grown food is much healthier and tastes better too. It's those people who don't have enough land to build such a thing that need the emergency food supply.
And also, where i live, you have to have permit from the county to build anything extra on YOUR OWN land, which pisses me off to the max! We have already met our quota on extra buildings on our land, so the emergency food supply was the next best option. It takes up little space out of sight behind my kitchen table.

My dad had a hot house when I was growing up. He grew tomatoes and other veggies in the winter time. Man, it was hot in there! It could double as a sauna, if needed. My sister and I used to have to go down after school every day and water the plants. But the reward of the great tasting food was worth it.
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(06-30-2020, 05:33 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote: 25 years?!  That's amazing, thanks for that link I've never heard of those containers.  Now I just have to convince the wife to buy 4 lol

There are a lot of natural foods that have a long shelf life. My brother is a bee keeper, so I am blessed to have plenty of local honey. Honey not only provides nutrition, but it has s amazing medicinal properties as well. The local stuff is best.  

Food With A Really Long Shelf Life
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(06-30-2020, 06:21 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: That's probably the best option for people in the country with lots of land. Good, fresh, home-grown food is much healthier and tastes better too. It's those people who don't have enough land to build such a thing that need the emergency food supply.
And also, where i live, you have to have permit from the county to build anything extra on YOUR OWN land, which pisses me off to the max! We have already met our quota on extra buildings on our land, so the emergency food supply was the next best option. It takes up little space out of sight behind my kitchen table.

My dad had a hot house when I was growing up. He grew tomatoes and other veggies in the winter time. Man, it was hot in there! It could double as a sauna, if needed. My sister and I used to have to go down after school every day and water the plants. But the reward of the great tasting food was worth it.

I have had serious problems for the last two years with my garden. My brother, the master gardener is also fighting a major battle with his gardens. The climate has changed, and wrecking havoc on our gardens. I have been experimenting with different placing of plants, and believe it or not, I am having better luck with the plants that I don't weed. It is harder to keep up with their growth, but at least they are not cooking on the vine.

I am also having much better luck with the container gardens than those planted in ground. So you don't need a lot of land to have a successful garden any more. In fact, my land based gardens are not producing well at all. 

You don't even need seeds. Just place those vegetable ends that you normally throw in the trash, and stick them into a pot. Your garbage garden will be feeding you in no time.
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(06-30-2020, 09:05 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(06-30-2020, 05:33 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote: 25 years?!  That's amazing, thanks for that link I've never heard of those containers.  Now I just have to convince the wife to buy 4 lol

There are a lot of natural foods that have a long shelf life. My brother is a bee keeper, so I am blessed to have plenty of local honey. Honey not only provides nutrition, but it has s amazing medicinal properties as well. The local stuff is best.  

Food With A Really Long Shelf Life

Honey is amazing, both in flavor and health benefits.  I think I read about honey being found in an Egyptian tomb that was thousands of years old and still edible.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all outta bubblegum."

-Roddy Piper
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(06-30-2020, 10:15 PM)Schmoe1 Wrote: Honey is amazing, both in flavor and health benefits.  I think I read about honey being found in an Egyptian tomb that was thousands of years old and still edible.

Yep!
Quote:1. Honey

A story about honey that’s often touted was the discovery by archaeologists of honey jars in an ancient Egyptian tomb. The honey was carbon dated as 3,000 years old and was still food-safe and tasted just like honey.
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(06-30-2020, 06:21 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: That's probably the best option for people in the country with lots of land. Good, fresh, home-grown food is much healthier and tastes better too. It's those people who don't have enough land to build such a thing that need the emergency food supply.
And also, where i live, you have to have permit from the county to build anything extra on YOUR OWN land, which pisses me off to the max! We have already met our quota on extra buildings on our land, so the emergency food supply was the next best option. It takes up little space out of sight behind my kitchen table.

My dad had a hot house when I was growing up. He grew tomatoes and other veggies in the winter time. Man, it was hot in there! It could double as a sauna, if needed. My sister and I used to have to go down after school every day and water the plants. But the reward of the great tasting food was worth it.

Permits can always be tricky.

Aquaponics still seems heavily misunderstood though!

Can just do it indoors, or in the basement, and skip all the "hassles" :P Gotta make sure wherever it goes can take the weight though.

Importantly though, the entire idea behind it is small footprint, low effort, high output. "Aquaponics" refers more to a mini-ecosystem process rather than a specific setup.

Typically, they are setup vertically to reduce spread, with the most basic systems having a single growbed level above the livestock tanks. These can be tiered though, to best utilize space. There are some techniques that are outright vertical tubes, but those are a bit different and can actually require a bit of crop selectivity.

I have ~100-125sqft of extra space where I live. Should be pretty much self-sufficient once the project is done.

Thats just for one person, but as a perpetual food source, in a super small space, with very low effort.. Its hard to beat. Itll supply ~1lb of protein a day, along with whatever crops & medicine, with a buffer built in for various failures/shortages.
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(06-30-2020, 09:05 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(06-30-2020, 05:33 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote: 25 years?!  That's amazing, thanks for that link I've never heard of those containers.  Now I just have to convince the wife to buy 4 lol

There are a lot of natural foods that have a long shelf life. My brother is a bee keeper, so I am blessed to have plenty of local honey. Honey not only provides nutrition, but it has s amazing medicinal properties as well. The local stuff is best.  

Food With A Really Long Shelf Life

Honey is wonderful! Especially raw and unfiltered. You can use it instead of sugar in baking too. I like using it for a sore throat, works better than any medicine.
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