Ammon Bundy's lawyer tackled, Tasered by U.S. Marshals in a surreal ending to the Ore

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U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown told him that there was a U.S. Marshal's hold on him from a pending federal indictment in Nevada.
"No, he's released on these charges. He's acquitted. Nevada doesn't have jurisdiction,'' Mumford yelled, standing before the judge. "If there's a detainer, show me.''

"Mr. Mumford, you really need to never yell at me now or never again,'' the judge responded.

Sounds like this Bundy character needs another lawyer - this one doesn't appear to be all that bright, or know much about the law.

First, it's a very, very bad idea to yell at a judge in the judge's own courtroom. Nasty, nasty things can happen if the judge has no sense of humor... and most of them don't.

Second, it doesn't matter if Nevada or Iran or Antarctica doesn't have jurisdiction in Oregon. It's a Federal hold, and the Federal government claims jurisdiction everywhere in the U.S. Oregon, as it happens, is in the U.S. It doesn't matter who else DOESN'T have jurisdiction there, the Feds DO - and U.S. Marshals have the authority to snatch one up by his scruff and drag him out by his heels, watching his head thump on the steps as they go, if they have proper custody papers.

Is this the same Bundy jackass that was grazing his cattle on MY land and not giving me a proper cut of his profits for the privilege? Or is this a different Bundy?

His lawyer should have filed right then and there for a writ of Habeus Corpus, and forced the marshals to produce the custody papers, instead of squealing and grandstanding.

"If they want him, they know where to find him,'' Mumford told the judge. "I don't see any paper proving their authority to hold him.''
Suddenly, a group of about six to seven U.S. Marshals, who had been either standing or seated around the perimeter of the courtroom, slowly moved in and surrounded Mumford at his defense table. The judge directed them to move back but moments later, the marshals grabbed onto him.
"What are you doing?'' Mumford yelled, as he struggled and was taken down to the floor.
As deputy marshals yelled, "Stop resisting,'' the judge demanded, "Everybody out of the courtroom now!''

Mumford was taken into custody by the Federal Protective Services.

Now, to be fair, they DO need paper, and if they had it, they should have shown it. With that said, if 6 or 7 U.S. Marshals attempt to latch on to me for just speaking my mind, and they DON'T have paper, a good time will not be had by all. That ain't how it's done, properly, and a man has every right to defend himself if assaulted by ANYONE who neglects to demonstrate that they have the proper authority to assault him. He has a good case for a lawsuit against the federal government for improper use of force, but sadly I don't believe he's lawyer enough to pursue it successfully - he just doesn't seem that bright.

If he was struggling and yelling on the way down, as the report states, then he WAS resisting, which explains why they yelled "stop resisting, stop resisting!". As I said before, however, he has every right to resist if they aren't using proper protocol. if you're intending to lay hands on me, you'd better show that paper first - and watch how you chose to lay hands on me. Otherwise, that taser better be made out of chocolate, so it tastes good when you eat it.

Just standing up and assaulting a citizen in a courtroom, if he's done no more than is being reported here, can put you in a world of legal hurt. IF this report is accurate and complete - and I really have my doubts that it is, but it could be - then I'd own these 6 or 7 marshals, and their houses and lands, cars and yachts, within a year.

Especially since the judge, according to this report, ordered them to move back. I can't think of a lawman who EVER kept his job after disobeying a judge in that judge's own courtroom. Good cops KNOW that''s a bad, bad idea.

Taken into custody by "Federal Protective Services"? Who the hell were they "protecting"? That's kinda messed up, and more than a little Orwellian - why don't they just rechristen themselves "The Ministry of Love"?

Wahlstrom, who was not in the courtroom, said the actions were taken because Mumford was resisting and preventing marshals from taking Ammon Bundy out of the courtroom and back into custody.

Wahlstrom said the stun gun was used because deputy U.S. marshals "attempted to handcuff him and he continued to resist.''

See, that there might be the part that was left out - just HOW was he preventing marshals from taking Bundy out of the court room? If he wasn't resisting with physical force, then physical force in response was unwarranted. See what I did there? "Unwarranted"? Tee-hee, yuk-yuk-yuk!

"What happened at the end is symbolic of the improper use of force by the federal government,'' Mumford's co-counsel J. Morgan Philpot said. Philpot explained that Mumford was attempting to point out that since the judge previously had said in court that she had no authority over detention orders made by the court in Nevada, she couldn't now maintain the right to order his client held.

That judge didn't need to "maintain the right to order his client held" - the order, if one exists, was issued by another judge in another circuit, and if it was, then the U.S. Marshals were the ones with the authority to hold his client, not the judge.