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Russia, NATO, and Idiots
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@"727Sky" 

Those comments are what I mean when I say the people wanting to "solve" this crisis never want to bring out that the sovereign country that is targeted by other powers should have a say in what they want to do.  It sounds like more of the "Ukraine is Russia's colony" mentality.

To be sure, western powers (primarily EU) have been trying to pull economic power plays in Ukraine since the revolution.  German tycoons in particular are anxious to make huge fortunes off the backs of the Ukrainian people.

But we shouldn't kid ourselves that Putin is some kind of protector or rescuer for them.  He just wants his own kleptocracy to make huge fortunes off the backs of the Ukrainian people while making the West look weak and disorganized (something not at all hard to do these days).

The West has done these kind of 'deals' before.  The take-away is making deals that robbed other countries of their sovereignty didn't stop a coming war, it just put the West in a worse situation when war broke out.

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Messages In This Thread
Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by 727Sky - 01-20-2022, 12:23 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-20-2022, 02:52 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by ABNARTY - 01-21-2022, 01:28 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-21-2022, 07:09 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Kenzo - 01-21-2022, 06:58 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-21-2022, 10:17 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Kenzo - 01-23-2022, 08:45 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by 727Sky - 01-23-2022, 08:53 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Kenzo - 01-24-2022, 10:49 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by F2d5thCav - 01-24-2022, 05:24 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-24-2022, 09:17 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by 727Sky - 01-26-2022, 05:30 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by F2d5thCav - 01-26-2022, 06:56 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-26-2022, 06:26 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Kenzo - 01-26-2022, 06:42 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by F2d5thCav - 01-27-2022, 08:28 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-28-2022, 04:12 AM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by F2d5thCav - 01-28-2022, 04:48 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-28-2022, 05:56 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Kenzo - 01-28-2022, 07:18 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by F2d5thCav - 01-28-2022, 06:05 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-28-2022, 07:02 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by F2d5thCav - 01-28-2022, 07:26 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Kenzo - 01-28-2022, 08:00 PM
RE: Russia, NATO, and Idiots - by Ninurta - 01-29-2022, 06:44 AM

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