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Disclosure......? - Wrabbit2000 - 06-29-2021 So, did anyone ever wonder. . . . What would happen if they just admitted everything, confirmed it all, and let the truth fly like poo on twirly blades? What if it all came to pass...and no one even cared to notice? I think I am still in shock. It isn't from the fact we have confirmation and vindication after decades of making people who used some common sense the object of ridicule and derision. No, that doesn't shock me. That is just how they treat anyone a little different in opinion, and the center on this could not hold forever. What shocks me is that we're watching the lid come off, truth emerge (not all, yet, but this was never going to be a fast process) and ... ... ... few can be bothered to notice? I have to admit, I've been dreaming of this happening since I was a wee tyke listening to Ronnie Ray-Gun blaze a national path for others to follow. I imagined many ways this could come about or what it would look like in reality. This scenario, in what we are actually seeing, never crossed my mind. I honestly never imagined they could, at official levels, confirm UFOs back far enough to know we had no technology to make them ...and no one would look up from their devices to say so much as 'huh?', 'Oh?'. So, color me shocked in ways I never thought I could feel again. The Truth is Out There........with Film at 11! RE: Disclosure......? - Mystic Wanderer - 06-29-2021 Yeah, I'm pretty shocked too. The admission that UAPs, formerly known as UFOs, is real has finally been released and no one seems to care. Maybe it's because we all already knew this? Tell us something good! Two of the people I watch on live streams every week did a show together last night going over the 9 pages that were released to the public. They stopped and discussed the important points. I think some things might have been told that some may have missed. It gets REALLY good towards the end, but watch it all (when time allows). By the way, White Hat works in the government and knows things the rest of us probably don't have access to. So, I give you Alara and White Hat. RE: Disclosure......? - guohua - 06-29-2021 @"Wrabbit2000" What I found amazing is their fear of the people with a strong religious faith, throwing themselves off the roof or committing mass suicides did not Happen. The Super Religious populence did not Strom The Government Building Demanding Their Leaders Repent. It was like,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Huh OKay No, they just seem to go on with their everyday lives. I think some idiot had these people convinced there would be another mass confusion and suicide like the Orson G Wells radio show, "The War Of the Worlds" JMHO RE: Disclosure......? - Mystic Wanderer - 06-29-2021 I've daydreamed about how the people who made fun of me for saying there are craft in space that come from different worlds are reacting to this news. Most of them were co-workers. I wonder if they think of me now and think, 'Wow, Mystic was right!'. I'd love to be a fly on the wall of some of these people. RE: Disclosure......? - Ninurta - 06-29-2021 The thing about the report that amazed me the most was their contention that some of the UAP's might fit into a category of "foreign technology" that far surpasses US technology. Personally, I don't believe there is any nation within this dimension that is that far ahead technology-wise, but what amazed me was their open suggestion that the US might be taking a technological back seat that they can't hope to gain parity in. For them to publicly admit that speaks volumes. Is it just their way of making excuses by blaming tech on other Earth nations instead of truly foreign extradimensional technologies? Is that the way the plan to avoid mass suicides, or whatever the hell it is they are scared of of they just cut everything they know loose? . RE: Disclosure......? - BIAD - 06-29-2021 Here's the report. Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena 25 June 2021 SCOPE AND ASSUMPTIONS Scope This preliminary report is provided by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) in response to the provision in Senate Report 116-233, accompanying the Intelligence Authorization Act (IAA) for Fiscal Year 2021, that the DNI, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense (SECDEF), is to submit an intelligence assessment of the threat posed by unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) and the progress the Department of Defense Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF) has made in understanding this threat. This report provides an overview for policymakers of the challenges associated with characterizing the potential threat posed by UAP while also providing a means to develop relevant processes, policies, technologies, and training for the U.S. military and other U.S. Government (USG) personnel if and when they encounter UAP, so as to enhance the Intelligence Community’s (IC) ability to understand the threat. The Director, UAPTF, is the accountable official for ensuring the timely collection and consolidation of data on UAP. The dataset described in this report is currently limited primarily to U.S. Government reporting of incidents occurring from November 2004 to March 2021. Data continues to be collected and analyzed. ODNI prepared this report for the Congressional Intelligence and Armed Services Committees. UAPTF and the ODNI National Intelligence Manager for Aviation drafted this report, with input from USD(I&S), DIA, FBI, NRO, NGA, NSA, Air Force, Army, Navy, Navy/ONI, DARPA, FAA, NOAA, NGA, ODNI/NIM-Emerging and Disruptive Technology, ODNI/National Counterintelligence and Security Center, and ODNI/National Intelligence Council. Assumptions Various forms of sensors that register UAP generally operate correctly and capture enough real data to allow initial assessments, but some UAP may be attributable to sensor anomalies. EXECUTIVE SUMMARY The limited amount of high-quality reporting on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) hampers our ability to draw firm conclusions about the nature or intent of UAP. The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF) considered a range of information on UAP described in U.S. military and IC (Intelligence Community) reporting, but because the reporting lacked sufficient specificity, ultimately recognized that a unique, tailored reporting process was required to provide sufficient data for analysis of UAP events. • As a result, the UAPTF concentrated its review on reports that occurred between 2004 and 2021, the majority of which are a result of this new tailored process to better capture UAP events through formalized reporting. • Most of the UAP reported probably do represent physical objects given that a majority of UAP were registered across multiple sensors, to include radar, infrared, electro-optical, weapon seekers, and visual observation. In a limited number of incidents, UAP reportedly appeared to exhibit unusual flight characteristics. These observations could be the result of sensor errors, spoofing, or observer misperception and require additional rigorous analysis. There are probably multiple types of UAP requiring different explanations based on the range of appearances and behaviors described in the available reporting. Our analysis of the data supports the construct that if and when individual UAP incidents are resolved they will fall into one of five potential explanatory categories: airborne clutter, natural atmospheric phenomena, USG or U.S. industry developmental programs, foreign adversary systems, and a catchall “other” bin. UAP clearly pose a safety of flight issue and may pose a challenge to U.S. national security. Safety concerns primarily center on aviators contending with an increasingly cluttered air domain. UAP would also represent a national security challenge if they are foreign adversary collection platforms or provide evidence a potential adversary has developed either a breakthrough or disruptive technology. Consistent consolidation of reports from across the federal government, standardized reporting, increased collection and analysis, and a streamlined process for screening all such reports against a broad range of relevant USG data will allow for a more sophisticated analysis of UAP that is likely to deepen our understanding. Some of these steps are resource-intensive and would require additional investment. AVAILABLE REPORTING LARGELY INCONCLUSIVE Limited Data Leaves Most UAP Unexplained… Limited data and inconsistency in reporting are key challenges to evaluating UAP. No standardized reporting mechanism existed until the Navy established one in March 2019. The Air Force subsequently adopted that mechanism in November 2020, but it remains limited to USG reporting. The UAPTF regularly heard anecdotally during its research about other observations that occurred but which were never captured in formal or informal reporting by those observers. After carefully considering this information, the UAPTF focused on reports that involved UAP largely witnessed firsthand by military aviators and that were collected from systems we considered to be reliable. These reports describe incidents that occurred between 2004 and 2021, with the majority coming in the last two years as the new reporting mechanism became better known to the military aviation community. We were able to identify one reported UAP with high confidence. In that case, we identified the object as a large, deflating balloon. The others remain unexplained. • 144 reports originated from USG sources. Of these, 80 reports involved observation with multiple sensors. o Most reports described UAP as objects that interrupted pre-planned training or other military activity. UAP Collection Challenges Sociocultural stigmas and sensor limitations remain obstacles to collecting data on UAP. Although some technical challenges—such as how to appropriately filter out radar clutter to ensure safety of flight for military and civilian aircraft—are longstanding in the aviation community, while others are unique to the UAP problem set. • Narratives from aviators in the operational community and analysts from the military and IC describe disparagement associated with observing UAP, reporting it, or attempting to discuss it with colleagues. Although the effects of these stigmas have lessened as senior members of the scientific, policy, military, and intelligence communities engage on the topic seriously in public, reputational risk may keep many observers silent, complicating scientific pursuit of the topic. • The sensors mounted on U.S. military platforms are typically designed to fulfill specific missions. As a result, those sensors are not generally suited for identifying UAP. • Sensor vantage points and the numbers of sensors concurrently observing an object play substantial roles in distinguishing UAP from known objects and determining whether a UAP demonstrates breakthrough aerospace capabilities. Optical sensors have the benefit of providing some insight into relative size, shape, and structure. Radiofrequency sensors provide more accurate velocity and range information. But Some Potential Patterns Do Emerge Although there was wide variability in the reports and the dataset is currently too limited to allow for detailed trend or pattern analysis, there was some clustering of UAP observations regarding shape, size, and, particularly, propulsion. UAP sightings also tended to cluster around U.S. training and testing grounds, but we assess that this may result from a collection bias as a result of focused attention, greater numbers of latest-generation sensors operating in those areas, unit expectations, and guidance to report anomalies. And a Handful of UAP Appear to Demonstrate Advanced Technology In 18 incidents, described in 21 reports, observers reported unusual UAP movement patterns or flight characteristics. Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, without discernable means of propulsion. In a small number of cases, military aircraft systems processed radio frequency (RF) energy associated with UAP sightings. The UAPTF holds a small amount of data that appear to show UAP demonstrating acceleration or a degree of signature management. Additional rigorous analysis are necessary by multiple teams or groups of technical experts to determine the nature and validity of these data. We are conducting further analysis to determine if breakthrough technologies were demonstrated. UAP PROBABLY LACK A SINGLE EXPLANATION The UAP documented in this limited dataset demonstrate an array of aerial behaviors, reinforcing the possibility there are multiple types of UAP requiring different explanations. Our analysis of the data supports the construct that if and when individual UAP incidents are resolved they will fall into one of five potential explanatory categories: airborne clutter, natural atmospheric phenomena, USG or industry developmental programs, foreign adversary systems, and a catchall “other” bin. With the exception of the one instance where we determined with high confidence that the reported UAP was airborne clutter, specifically a deflating balloon, we currently lack sufficient information in our dataset to attribute incidents to specific explanations. Airborne Clutter: These objects include birds, balloons, recreational unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV), or airborne debris like plastic bags that muddle a scene and affect an operator’s ability to identify true targets, such as enemy aircraft. Natural Atmospheric Phenomena: Natural atmospheric phenomena includes ice crystals, moisture, and thermal fluctuations that may register on some infrared and radar systems. USG or Industry Developmental Programs: Some UAP observations could be attributable to developments and classified programs by U.S. entities. We were unable to confirm, however, that these systems accounted for any of the UAP reports we collected. Foreign Adversary Systems: Some UAP may be technologies deployed by China, Russia, another nation, or a non-governmental entity. Other: Although most of the UAP described in our dataset probably remain unidentified due to limited data or challenges to collection processing or analysis, we may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully collect on, analyze and characterize some of them. We would group such objects in this category pending scientific advances that allowed us to better understand them. The UAPTF intends to focus additional analysis on the small number of cases where a UAP appeared to display unusual flight characteristics or signature management. UAP THREATEN FLIGHT SAFETY AND, POSSIBLY, NATIONAL SECURITY UAP pose a hazard to safety of flight and could pose a broader danger if some instances represent sophisticated collection against U.S. military activities by a foreign government or demonstrate a breakthrough aerospace technology by a potential adversary. Ongoing Airspace Concerns When aviators encounter safety hazards, they are required to report these concerns. Depending on the location, volume, and behavior of hazards during incursions on ranges, pilots may cease their tests and/or training and land their aircraft, which has a deterrent effect on reporting. • The UAPTF has 11 reports of documented instances in which pilots reported near misses with a UAP. Potential National Security Challenges We currently lack data to indicate any UAP are part of a foreign collection program or indicativeof a major technological advancement by a potential adversary. We continue to monitor for evidence of such programs given the counter intelligence challenge they would pose, particularly as some UAP have been detected near military facilities or by aircraft carrying the USG’s most advanced sensor systems. EXPLAINING UAP WILL REQUIRE ANALYTIC, COLLECTION AND RESOURCE INVESTMENT Standardize the Reporting, Consolidate the Data, and Deepen the Analysis In line with the provisions of Senate Report 116-233, accompanying the IAA for FY 2021, theUAPTF’s long-term goal is to widen the scope of its work to include additional UAP events documented by a broader swath of USG personnel and technical systems in its analysis. As the dataset increases, the UAPTF’s ability to employ data analytics to detect trends will also improve. The initial focus will be to employ artificial intelligence/machine learning algorithms to cluster and recognize similarities and patterns in features of the data points. As the database accumulates information from known aerial objects such as weather balloons, high-altitude or super-pressure balloons, and wildlife, machine learning can add efficiency by pre-assessing UAP reports to see if those records match similar events already in the database. • The UAPTF has begun to develop interagency analytical and processing workflows to ensure both collection and analysis will be well informed and coordinated. The majority of UAP data is from U.S. Navy reporting, but efforts are underway to standardize incident reporting across U.S. military services and other government agencies to ensure all relevant data is captured with respect to particular incidents and any U.S. activities that might be relevant. The UAPTF is currently working to acquire additional reporting, including from the U.S. Air Force (USAF), and has begun receiving data from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). • Although USAF data collection has been limited historically the USAF began a sixmonth pilot program in November 2020 to collect in the most likely areas to encounter UAP and is evaluating how to normalize future collection, reporting, and analysis across the entire Air Force. • The FAA captures data related to UAP during the normal course of managing air traffic operations. The FAA generally ingests this data when pilots and other airspace users report unusual or unexpected events to the FAA’s Air Traffic Organization. • In addition, the FAA continuously monitors its systems for anomalies, generating additional information that may be of use to the UAPTF. The FAA is able to isolate data of interest to the UAPTF and make it available. The FAA has a robust and effective outreach program that can help the UAPTF reach members of the aviation community to highlight the importance of reporting UAP. Expand Collection The UAPTF is looking for novel ways to increase collection of UAP cluster areas when U.S. forces are not present as a way to baseline “standard” UAP activity and mitigate the collection bias in the dataset. One proposal is to use advanced algorithms to search historical data captured and stored by radars. The UAPTF also plans to update its current interagency UAP collection strategy in order bring to bear relevant collection platforms and methods from the DoD and the IC. Increase Investment in Research and Development The UAPTF has indicated that additional funding for research and development could further the future study of the topics laid out in this report. Such investments should be guided by a UAP Collection Strategy, UAP R&D Technical Roadmap, and a UAP Program Plan. APPENDIX B – Senate Report Accompanying the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2021 Senate Report 116-233, accompanying the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2021, provides that the DNI, in consultation with the SECDEF and other relevant heads of USG Agencies, is to submit an intelligence assessment of the threat posed by UAP and the progress the UAPTF has made to understand this threat. The Senate Report specifically requested that the report include: 1. A detailed analysis of UAP data and intelligence reporting collected or held by the Office of Naval Intelligence, including data and intelligence reporting held by the UAPTF; 2. A detailed analysis of unidentified phenomena data collected by: a. Geospatial Intelligence; b. Signals Intelligence; c. Human Intelligence; and d. Measurement and Signatures Intelligence 3. A detailed analysis of data of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which was derived from investigations of intrusions of UAP data over restricted U.S. airspace; 4. A detailed description of an interagency process for ensuring timely data collection and centralized analysis of all UAP reporting for the Federal Government, regardless of which service or agency acquired the information; 5. Identification of an official accountable for the process described in paragraph 4; 6. Identification of potential aerospace or other threats posed by the UAP to national security, and an assessment of whether this UAP activity may be attributed to one or more foreign adversaries; 7. Identification of any incidents or patterns that indicate a potential adversary, have achieved breakthrough aerospace capabilities that could put U.S. strategic or conventional forces at risk; and 8. Recommendations regarding increased collection of data, enhanced research and development, additional funding, and other resources. .......................................................... RE: Disclosure......? - Wrabbit2000 - 06-29-2021 (06-29-2021, 08:36 PM)Ninurta Wrote: The thing about the report that amazed me the most was their contention that some of the UAP's might fit into a category of "foreign technology" that far surpasses US technology. Personally, I don't believe there is any nation within this dimension that is that far ahead technology-wise, but what amazed me was their open suggestion that the US might be taking a technological back seat that they can't hope to gain parity in. For them to publicly admit that speaks volumes. The biggest question is.... Are these foreign in space, place, or time? Foreign covers a lot of ground when no other nation we are aware of has anything remotely close to surpassing our level by that degree. Perhaps Hollow Earth isn't such a fairy tale? Who knows these days..... I've seen too many things I was sure would never be seen...to doubt anything with a smidgen of possibility. RE: Disclosure......? - Ninurta - 06-29-2021 (06-29-2021, 10:31 PM)Wrabbit2000 Wrote: The biggest question is.... Are these foreign in space, place, or time? Foreign covers a lot of ground when no other nation we are aware of has anything remotely close to surpassing our level by that degree. I personally believe - and I have NO evidence for this, either way - that they are inter-dimensional. I have no doubt they are real, as in actual physical objects, but cannot fathom how they would travel here from other stars in THIS universe due to the vast distances involved. Maybe the UMMO papers could provide a potential explanation for that, but it seems to me more likely that they are crossing in from other dimensions, other universes parallel to this one. If that is the fact, then they could be foreign from other space, other time, or other places... or some combination of all of the above. The fact alone that they do not possess either control or lift surfaces, yet can perform complex and rapid maneuvers in spite of that, would indicate that they are far in advance of anything ANY nation here has, in terms of technology. . RE: Disclosure......? - Schmoe1 - 06-30-2021 (06-29-2021, 08:36 PM)Ninurta Wrote: The thing about the report that amazed me the most was their contention that some of the UAP's might fit into a category of "foreign technology" that far surpasses US technology. Personally, I don't believe there is any nation within this dimension that is that far ahead technology-wise, but what amazed me was their open suggestion that the US might be taking a technological back seat that they can't hope to gain parity in. For them to publicly admit that speaks volumes. I don't think I'd be too surprised to see an adversary surpass us technologically, considering how fond our government is of compartmentalization. RE: Disclosure......? - senona - 06-30-2021 No one cared to notice, because they have got everyone's attention elsewhere .....namely covid The fear mongering and isolation has kept everyone on edge of late. Just a little bit of normalcy has many oblivious to what is going on around them, so happy to be "free" The message of millions getting sick and possibly dying, is still first and foremost. Along with the much anticipation of the newly [unapproved] vaccine that will cure all .... /sarcasm So yeah, with the lifting of the mask mandates, opening of stores/restaurants, easing up on the social distancing and allowing families to be "reunited" -- this is actually the perfect time to release such UFO disclosure IMO No one noticed No one seemed to care People are allowed to attend festivals, sports games, family reunions/weddings, etc etc That is all that matters now RE: Disclosure......? - 727Sky - 06-30-2021 Well at least there is some open talk about the subject. I heard or read (?) the secretary of defense has given an order that any future "EVENTS" will be reported within two weeks of their occurrence and may include a best guess of what made the event.. so all of the following is now official and will be reported.. I personally believe past events have been retrieved and stored by some agency or even one or more defense contractors so any freedom of information request can not touch what they have. Inches are given when miles stretch before us but even so the longest journey begins with the first step. |