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RE: NESSIE is BACK! - BIAD - 09-28-2021 Just an update, in the 'Richard Outdoors' Community Section of his YouTube channel, it shows that Mr Maver thanked everyone for their help in the Great Glen Challenge and displays a map of their journey. This is listed as a month ago. His last posting (3 weeks ago) joking asks for tips for his visit to Los Angeles -which I presume is tied to his job as a pilot. ............................................ And so I perused a video of a fellow-canoeist who went on the trek, Simon Eardley. In his footage at 7.11, there's more of the use of the drone and in a couple of places throughout the video, the same footage that is in Richard Maver's YouTube video is in Simon Eardley's too. However, not the exact moments when the monster is spotted. (There is one interesting section where the lone red canoe is filmed in situ that the TOS member captured, but it's from a different angle and nothing is noticeable in the footage. Damn it!!) So does this mean Richard Maver is not the only suspect in this assumed ruse...? Maybe the question should be who was piloting the drone? RE: NESSIE is BACK! - Ninurta - 09-29-2021 (09-28-2021, 03:38 PM)BIAD Wrote: Maybe the question should be who was piloting the drone? Or who did the video editing and stitched all the various shots together. . RE: NESSIE is BACK! - BIAD - 09-29-2021 (09-29-2021, 12:53 AM)Ninurta Wrote:(09-28-2021, 03:38 PM)BIAD Wrote: Maybe the question should be who was piloting the drone? Well, that would be the start. I'd guess that the drone-owner would either have been in on the fakery or aware that someone tampered with his footage. That's assuming deliberate alteration took place. I think we can assume the expense of using a submerged physical object in the loch is off the table. It's costly, witnesses to installing an object into thee water would run the risk of spoiling the trick and there's no guarantee it would bring the desired effects. There's also the acting to be taken into account. If all of the men were in on the ruse, they sure put on a good performance. If only one or two acted on the scheme, they've deliberately fooled their companions. .................................................................................. So we're left with a real unknown object that seems to move underwater was genuinely captured on film and public imagination has done the rest. Video manipulation has took place by one-or-more of those taking part in the canoe challenge and they believed the notoriety would enhance the profile of the charity they sought to help via donations. Video manipulation has took place by one-or-more of those taking part in the canoe challenge in order to bring attention to themselves for unknown reasons. There are seven canoes and in one shot from the Simon Eardley video, eight men in the expedition. Although one of them remains on land at all times for supply purposes. .................................................................................. Maver's video -like others who filmed the expedition, has been edited in a professional manner and as Gordi pointed out, music was even 'composed' to accompany the footage. But if a 'monster' was inserted into the video, the opportunity has to be there to do so. In a surface-reflective environment where visibility is poor beneath that surface, I'd guess that a straight-down shot would be the best situation to make sure a photoshopped object could be noticed. And that brings us to the next puzzle, would it be noticed unless it was pointed out? Then who pointed it out? RE: NESSIE is BACK! - BIAD - 09-29-2021 I see that the 'Richard Outdoors' YouTube channel has removed the original video of the Great Glen Challenge. RE: NESSIE is BACK! - Ninurta - 09-30-2021 (09-29-2021, 12:11 PM)BIAD Wrote: I see that the 'Richard Outdoors' YouTube channel has removed the original video of the Great Glen Challenge. Good thing I downloaded it when I did then, huh? In the video of his companion you posted, I noticed one section where he was talking to the camera, but kept looking over his shoulder. Out in the loch behind him was an oddly behaving wave. He took the camera off himself and briefly zoomed to that area, but nothing was really shown, and he didn't really comment on it, either. Weird, huh? . RE: NESSIE is BACK! - Nomnomine - 09-30-2021 (09-27-2021, 05:39 PM)gordi Wrote:[quote pid='71856' dateline='1632760741'](09-25-2021, 06:16 PM)Nomnomine Wrote: I'm pretty sure the photographer himself admitted the Nessie photo was a modified toy submarine. Not to say we know f all about what's really under the waters. Either way, this photo doesn't say much to me. Then again, I was afraid to snorkel in the Caribbean just in case there was a Kraken. ... ... ... Ok maybe I'm crazy, but the original photo was a hoax. I'll be the first to say the unknown underwater exists. Hell man, I was afraid to snorkel in the Caribbean in case of the kraken, lol. Bull sharks make their way into rivers. If I ever get rich, I pledge to purge the oceans. Kidding, but we really should explore the oceans more. Mars be damned, what's in the Pacific? :P [/quote] RE: NESSIE is BACK! - Nomnomine - 09-30-2021 Sorry I think I got a double post there. I love you RE: NESSIE is BACK! - guohua - 09-30-2021 (09-30-2021, 05:10 AM)Nomnomine Wrote: Sorry I think I got a double post there. We Love YOU Too! RE: NESSIE is BACK! - BIAD - 09-30-2021 (09-30-2021, 03:07 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Good thing I downloaded it when I did then, huh? It could be another example of the response to the loch's reputation, any odd wave phenomena -even if you don't believe the accounts, will make the most cynical of folk wonder if for that one moment, they were wrong! As I indicated before, the focus that the members of the group who filmed the charity-canoeing tended to stay near their individual outdoor-camping techniques and part from the light-hearted banter about the competition to win the toy-Nessie, the legend of the loch wasn't really pushed. Whether this was deliberate to enhance the idea that it was a group of pragmatic, no-nonsense campers accidently putting themselves into a 'Woo-Woo' situation for fame, cannot be verified at this point. Their goal was to row for a charity, not film a mythical underwater creature... or was it?! And that's the puzzle we're left with. If one-or-more of these men did contrive to fool the public, the consequences could be bothersome if-and-when it's discovered. If they are innocent of any chicanery and the footage was untouched, what is that animate object in their drone footage that resembles the plastic Plesiosaur from Talking Turtles.com?! Another question could arise that if these participants edited their own filming, why didn't they see what some anonymous viewer saw or were they not looking for something that many people equate with Loch Ness? However, if -again, none of the canoeing men, the drone-pilot or those who supported the challenge from the land were involved in altering the footage to show a monster, none of them noticed the odd shape in the drone film during editing and none of them purchased a plastic dinosaur for the ruse or even for their kids and finally, if Richard Maver genuinely uploaded his video to his YouTube channel believing the entire filming of the Great Glen Challenge was just about him and his cohorts during the experience... then where did that few seconds of a shape emerging from the depths of the loch come from? And... who dumped the video off YouTube? Edit: In Richard Maver's first YouTube video, he mentions his use of a drone and the entire video to Lochnagar in Scotland was of him being alone and doing the walk. Hence, he flies a drone -as seen at 25.27 in his first video. RE: NESSIE is BACK! - BIAD - 10-01-2021 Just a quickie on where the Great Glen Challenge monster-situation is at the first day of October... it's been forgotten and left as fakery. Although I'm not sure what 'an expert' is in Scottish cryptozoology?! But notice something in the article below that I hinted at in my last posting, the idea that a section of a video showing nothing strange in the vicinity where the camper/canoeists were, is shown (I believe near the beginning) and another segment in the same video -but now with a superimposed dinosaur lurking in the water... Two versions of the drone-footage on the same video and assumedly both segments filmed by the same person. This won't do Richard Maver's side-line business of selling outdoor equipment any good, nor be a great advert for the charity he did the challenge for. Maybe he's hoping it'll all just die-down. Quote:Loch Ness Monster experts claim most recent drone video sighting is a 'hoax'The Daily Record: |