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RE: Britain Today. - Ninurta - 08-12-2021 (08-11-2021, 12:55 PM)BIAD Wrote: Edit: Although I see the headline says she was driven to the layby, not she drove there. I saw that, too, but it doesn't really answer any questions. If I'm dead, and they want to drive me somewhere to burn the body, I of course have no choice in the matter, and someone else will have to do the driving. If, on the other hand, I am alive, I'm certainly not going to drive myself to the scene of my impending death, so someone else is still gonna have to do it... so, really, it doesn't provide as much information as it would appear to at first blush. Typical "news" double-speak and hedge-wording. . RE: Britain Today. - BIAD - 08-12-2021 With questions still needing to be answered, BIAD dons his Reporter's hat and sets out on Thursday morning to obtain the required information. Quote:11th Aug, 2021.ExpressAndStar: The last sentence usually means a lot, it implies possible knowledge of the incident might be available in certain communities. ................................................. I noticed a similar crime reported from the same news outlet and I'm surprised by the lack of interest by the major news-streams. Although, the distance between the places where the crimes took place is almost 60 miles. Quote:Aug 10, 2021.SOURCE: ............................... What I found strange about the first 'burnt-body' incident is that I used the photo from the above article and a previous description of the location mentioned in The Manchester Evening News to search for the exact spot where the woman was discovered with the help of Google maps. Here's the 'On-The-Ground' map location, captured in March of 2021. Why is it blurred?! (Location) RE: Britain Today. - Rodinus - 08-12-2021 Britain is no longer British mate. One of the very many reasons that I decided to quit our cesspool of a once great country over 30 years ago. Back in the late 70s early 80s, Bradford and Leeds up North had some great people. Then the last generation of brainwashed religious fanatics arrived.... THAT IS A FACT. Glad I am out of the UK now but sadly over the past 20 to 30 years France is becoming much similar and heading down the same disasterous path... Rod RE: Britain Today. - BIAD - 08-12-2021 (08-12-2021, 09:52 AM)Rodinus Wrote: Britain is no longer British mate. I hear yer'. The standards of yesteryear took the last train for the coast a looooong time ago. RE: Britain Today. - Rodinus - 08-12-2021 (08-12-2021, 10:16 AM)BIAD Wrote:(08-12-2021, 09:52 AM)Rodinus Wrote: Britain is no longer British mate. "BRITISH RAIL"? RE: Britain Today. - BIAD - 08-12-2021 (08-12-2021, 10:27 AM)Rodinus Wrote: "BRITISH RAIL"? Yes... the old standards of Britain reported from their cramped carriage that they're only thirty minutes from the coast and are currently playing the game 'whoever sees the sea first, gets the beer in'. Mind you, this was back in the early eighties. [video=youtube]http:/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJgkv2wCPC4&ab_channel=TrainsTrainsTrains/[/video] And of course, that trusted-BBC's DJ's convincing advert must be shown. RE: Britain Today. - BIAD - 08-13-2021 In the UK, we had -what the MSM like to call, a mass-shooting. Plymouth, a port-city on the south coast of England, where the town in Massachusetts derived its name and began the great pioneering spirit of adventure that made the US the most powerful country in history. Personally, I think it shows how disillusioned many young people are about who they are, what their life could be and that most important act that teenagers worship -and that the media exploit, sex. Thursday evening, 12th August 2021. Quote:Plymouth shooting: Jake Davison named as gunman who killed five.BBC: ............................................ Quote:Self-pitying Plymouth gunman ranted about failed love life in YouTube videosArchived Metro Article: "Why can't they get girlfriends?" RE: Britain Today. - WonderCow - 08-13-2021 Thanks for posting @BIAD. It was surreal following all this on FB last night. We did hear sirens at teatime last night, but that's not unusual as we are between two of the main routes into town. We are several miles away from where it happened, so we weren't affected at all, but about 20 years ago I lived one street over from where it all went down, so I'm very familiar with the area. Everyone here is completely stunned, it will take some time to process what happened. Thoughts and prayers for the victims and families. RE: Britain Today. - BIAD - 08-13-2021 (08-13-2021, 01:11 PM)WonderCow Wrote: Thanks for posting @BIAD. Mine too. There's an update, but it doesn't help any for those grieving. Quote:'...Jake Davison, who killed five people, including a young girl, in Plymouth was a licensed firearms holder,BBC: Maxine Davison was killed by her son in a shooting rampage. (SOURCE) RE: Britain Today. - WonderCow - 08-13-2021 (08-13-2021, 04:05 PM)BIAD Wrote:(08-13-2021, 01:11 PM)WonderCow Wrote: Thanks for posting @BIAD. Just found out today that some friends of ours were incredibly lucky. They had just walked their dog through the park (#3 on map above) and headed to North Down Park (#6) they heard the shots, but didn't know what it was. While they were in the park, the helicopters started flying in, so they decided it would be a good idea to go home. RE: Britain Today. - Ninurta - 08-13-2021 My thoughts and prayers are not just with the victim's families, but with all the British people. It must be traumatizing, as this sort of thing doesn't often happen there with firearms. He killed his own ma because he can't unass his couch long enough to get laid? There's probably a really deep problem there, Mr. Oedipus! That "incel" bunch are, to a man, a bunch of whiny bitches. They seem to sit around in all male enclaves bitching and whining about not being able to get laid, instead of, you know, just going out and getting laid. It warps their minds (or perhaps is a symptom of an already warped mind), and causes them to perform all manner of crazy, things like this included. A number of "mass shootings" in the US have also been linked to incels. I'm normally against blaming stuff on society at large, but in this case, I do think society at large bears a large part of the responsibility. We, as a society, are promoting "women's lib" and insisting that women are off limits to men, while at the same time breeding an entire population of weak men who take that to heart, and think there is some particular reason they should listen to society. Ergo, they are afraid to place themselves into a position where they might discover girls and cure that "incel" bullshit. hell, there really ought not to even BE a name for it, it ought not to be a "thing". There are women out there who get the urge to merge same as men do - it is, after all, an inbuilt thing to propagate the species - but these incel wimps are too scared to go find them, preferring to sit around and bitch, and occasionally go off on shooting sprees. Of all the things I might publicly identify myself as, "incel" is not one of them, even if I were one. It's not what I would think of as a badge of honor. But, you know, modern society and all that trash. Sometimes, I think humanity is just a bunch of lemmings on the edge of a cliff. . RE: Britain Today. - BIAD - 08-13-2021 (08-13-2021, 07:50 PM)Ninurta Wrote: My thoughts and prayers are not just with the victim's families, but with all the British people. It must be traumatizing, as this sort of thing doesn't often happen there with firearms. I've got to agree, the mental de-masculinisation of our male youth won't help the generations of the future. Quote:"...Ms Davison, 51, was shot and killed by her 22-year-old son Jake Davison at her home on Biddick Drive,Auntie Beeb: RE: Britain Today. - Ninurta - 08-14-2021 (08-13-2021, 09:17 PM)BIAD Wrote: I've got to agree, the mental de-masculinisation of our male youth won't help the generations of the future. I seriously can't comprehend how that even happens. I do not understand the mindset that, when confronted with that bullshit, doesn't just say "What? get the fuck away from me before I pop your head like a pimple. Go preach that bullshit to someone that gives a shit." How do they get inside these non-men's minds? Is it something in the water? Fluoride maybe? Some chemical in the food or some GMO shit making their testosterone levels measure in the negative? . RE: Britain Today. - Ninurta - 08-14-2021 from the article: Quote:In online videos Davison spoke of being "beaten down" and "defeated by life". What a pussy. His ma should have explained to him that life ain't fair, sometimes it punches you right in the face, and all you gotta do is take that punch like a man and counter punch until you win. Instead she let him shoot her in the face. This world is getting crazier by the day. The only saving grace is that I ain't scared of a bunch of wussies like that. In other words, the world is going nuts, but it's not strong enough to make it count. . RE: Britain Today. - BIAD - 08-14-2021 (08-14-2021, 02:46 AM)Ninurta Wrote: I seriously can't comprehend how that even happens. I do not understand the mind-set that, when confronted with that You may or may not recall as a child, the feeling one gets from watching your favourite television character struggling with a certain situation in an episode. The character -usually totally unaware of the the state of affairs they're entering, becomes embroiled in a situation due to applying his own set of values towards those in the environment he finds himself. Since you agree with his generic 'good' concept of social-living -or you wouldn't bother watching the TV show in the first place, you become emotive for this chivalric-like character who is fighting those against his style of 'truth'. Usually, our fictional hero succeeds in his endeavours and leaves the situation in a presumed-better condition than his first interaction. A story-telling formula that is centuries old and is a guaranteed ratings-puller. Then you turn off the television and go outside to emulate your favoured character. However, reality kicks-in and you find that most people see themselves as the 'hero' of their own little episode. There's no adoring audience that hangs onto every word you say and your limited experience seems to go unnoticed by those around you. You can't fly, there's no scheming baddies around every corner and even worse, just as your imagination gets into gear, your mother calls you in for supper. Hardly worthy of your hero! And for those older boys, there's no pretty girl looking admiringly at you because of your guiding principles and swoons as you ride-off into the sunset with your pristine white hat on your handsome head. Social media uses a similar fantasy-based territory to let people play-out such roles. For many in Rogue Nation, we never grew-up with a technology that allowed you to -not only watch an intriguing setting where opinions are displayed with an assumed certainty, but to also inject one's own set of principles and gain confidence from those who agree with one's set of undeveloped philosophies. In essence, one has stepped into the television show one once could only watch on a screen. But reality is still this side of the glass, you, me and everyone else is still in this REAL world and not the muscular hero slaying demons and imagining that we are impressing a female by showing such gallant behaviour. Our bedrooms still need tidying-up, we still need to go to work to earn money and we still need to accept responsibilities that can make us the adult that these kinds of television shows sort-of portray. Sadly, the youth of today doesn't watch television anymore and for many, never created that mental-process that's needed to distinguish what is real and what is not. They struggle to learn what is meaningful in life because of the constant barrage of a peer-on-peer-need to be part of a group. Shame and disgrace -humiliating positions that could be avoided in the real world by absorbing the behaviour of those around you, are proposed with ease to single-out someone for the purpose of self-protection and down-right meanness. Obviously, it happened in schools before the internet, but the difference is that in social media, there's no bell or buzzer to say your time is up and you can return to a place where strangers aren't persistently trying to convince you that you're wrong and they are right. Those plotting 'baddies' are now in your home, sitting in the cable that comes through your wall and baiting you to come and fight them. But by switching them off, are you surrendering your values...? Will the pretty girl stop waving...? Can you hear your un-met, unnamed, self-believed enemies laughing in the wires? ....................................... So the map of being a regular person demands -even through the many fictional curtains of gender, that we need to seek a mate. But what defines such a companion...? A well-endowed male/female who is a success in the real world and will listen to your partly-formed assumptions of life? There's worrying preconditioned concern today that one of the must-needed attributes to a possible-mate is that he or she must be envied by those the hopeful candidate holds in regard of their preferred group on the internet. Shallow as that seems, the characteristics of a possible life-colleague seems to be weighed by the false doctrines that are endorsed on the juvenile websites within the same form of electronic communication! The real-world 'instructions' of how to go about finding someone that one can trust, find emotional nourishment in the very company of that person and look to creating a better generation for the future with, are not available in the countless forums that were originally created to provide thought-provoking entertainment. Now these electronic assemblies are serious meeting-zones for those with stunted ideas still anchored to the need to impress, to garner favour with those who they seek to dominate. Games, older people played as a child -and part of growing up, are now part of today's adulthood and promote poor civics and even poorer examples of self-conduct. However on the internet, there's no bloody nose, no scraped knees and no adult grabbing one's ear and dragging you away to be held accountable for one's action. (Although, certain Governments are attempting such parental acts!) Maybe somewhere along the line, weaning people off the teat of the internet will become fashionable and the tragic results that occur when one confuses the tripe displayed via this global network manifests itself in the real world, will dwindle. Maybe we can be normal again. RE: Britain Today. - BIAD - 08-15-2021 15th August 2021. Just an average London weekend... Quote:Gunmen fire shots at barbecue in Camden hitting three women and a manThe Standard: Quote:Notting Hill: Murder arrest over woman's stab death at homeSOURCE: Quote:Man rushed to hospital with head injuries after early morning attack in Finsbury ParkMyLondon: Quote:Record number of migrants cross the English Channel with 592 people making it to shore from FranceDaily Mail: Quote:'...About 10,000 have already made the dangerous, illegal Channel crossing this year.The Sun: RE: Britain Today. - Ninurta - 08-15-2021 (08-15-2021, 10:12 PM)BIAD Wrote: 15th August 2021. Where are all these knotheads getting unregulated firearms in supposedly gun-controlled Old Blighty? Do you suppose they're getting them from straw purchasers in Virginia, as New York and Chicago are claiming theirs are coming from? Or is it just a case of the violent will find a way to BE violent? . RE: Britain Today. - BIAD - 08-16-2021 (08-15-2021, 10:54 PM)Ninurta Wrote: Where are all these knotheads getting unregulated firearms in supposedly gun-controlled Old Blighty? It's due to standards... basic standards of communal existence and of course, the false perception of a country that is used as a token towards those who value a constitution. Social values have dropped and those who benefit from a 'gangsta'-like lifestyle are just revelling in the current climate. Here's another. Take heed, Weymouth is four-and-a-half hours and two-hundred and forty-six miles away from Norfolk, which is a county. Gloucester is three-and-a-half hours and two hundred miles away from Norfolk. Gloucester is also two-hours-and-forty-minutes and one-hundred-and-twenty-five miles from Weymouth. Yet a boy of fourteen living two hundred miles away from a nineteen year-old man got together to accost and then subject two sixteen year-old girls to sexual violence. What thought-process bound these two together? The bottom circle is Weymouth, the smaller one above it is Gloucester and the larger, the county of Norfolk. Quote:Boy, 14, and man, 19, are arrested on suspicion of rape and sexual assault after two girls, both aged 16,Archived Daily Mail Article: RE: Britain Today. - BIAD - 08-19-2021 Tragedies come from many original good intentions. Quote:(UK) Sheffield hotel fall: Boy who died was Afghan refugeeArchived BBC Article: Mohammed Munib Majeedi. RE: Britain Today. - BIAD - 08-20-2021 When they say 'no planes are leaving Kabul airport empty'... they're technically correct. Someone has to fly them! Quote:Ex-Royal Marine Paul 'Pen' Farthing sees wife leave Kabul on almost empty plane(UK) Sky News: Quote:No planes leaving empty says UK defence secretaryBBC: ....................................................................... On a different note -but still one that tells you your world isn't what you think it is via that TV in the corner of your room! The below is accurate and taken from the UK's Governmental PDF advice statement. I deleted the reference numbers in the paragraphs for easier reading, but nothing else has been removed. Notice paragraph Two and the advice offered to 'cajole' the public into thinking a certain way. Options for increasing adherence to social distancing measures 22nd March 2020 Education 1. Specificity: The guidance currently lacks clarity and specificity with regards to recommended behaviours. For example, instead of the phrase ‘try to’, it should just say ‘do’. Phrases such as ‘as much as is practicable’, ‘non-essential’, ‘significantly limit’, and ‘gathering’ are open to wide differences in interpretation. This can lead to confusion about exactly what people are being required to do (e.g. gathering outside or going for walks). Guidance now needs to be reformulated to be behaviourally specific: who needs to do what (precisely) and why (explain the rationale) and communicated through channels that provide personalised advice and account for individual circumstances including SMS messaging and an interactive website. Persuasion 2. Perceived threat: A substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened; it could be that they are reassured by the low death rate in their demographic group, although levels of concern may be rising. Having a good understanding of the risk has been found to be positively associated with adoption of COVID-19 social distancing measures in Hong Kong. The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging. To be effective this must also empower people by making clear the actions they can take to reduce the threat. 3. Responsibility to others: There seems to be insufficient understanding of, or feelings of responsibility about, people’s role in transmitting the infection to others. This may have resulted in part from messaging around the low level of risk to most people and talk of the desirability of building ‘herd immunity’. Messaging needs to emphasise and explain the duty to protect others. 4. Positive messaging around actions: People need to see self-protective actions in positive terms and feel confident that they will be effective. Individuals also need to understand that the survival of the severely ill will be increased by the capacity of the health care system, which in turn will be increased by reducing the rise in infections now. Messaging about actions need to be framed positively in terms of protecting oneself and the community, and increase confidence that they will be effective. 5. Tailoring: Some people will be more persuaded by appeals to play by the rules, some by duty to the community, and some to personal risk. All these different approaches are needed. The messaging also needs to take account of the realities of different people’s lives. Messaging needs to take account of the different motivational levers and circumstances of different people. ................................................ Link To PDF: |