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RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Mystic Wanderer - 11-16-2019 This comes from the New York Times. I'm surprised, being as it puts a large stain on the Obummer administration. Quote:Of all the supposedly shocking revelations that have emerged from the impeachment hearings this week, here’s one that the Democrats in Congress hope you don’t hear about: The Obama White House knew that Hunter Biden’s extremely lucrative appointment to the board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma, which occurred the month after his father was named the administration’s “point person” on Ukraine, reeked of corruption — and they didn’t do anything about it. And there you have it. It's just an opinion piece, but so are all the witnesses in these hearings; facts and evidence be dammed. RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Ninurta - 11-17-2019 Odd, isn't it, how bureaucrats are trying to steer the ship of state, trying to wrest control of our future back into their own grasp, eh? Can someone point out to me where the US Constitution authorizes bureaucrats to make laws, make national security decisions, or any of the other things that they are doing/attempting to do at this very moment? I'll wait while you look that part up... . RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Mystic Wanderer - 11-17-2019 Here is a video of the full 6+ hours of the second hearing. I won't be watching this one either. I'll be doing something better with my time. RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Mystic Wanderer - 11-18-2019 It's Monday, and from what I heard, this week is supposed to be packed full with "witnesses" for the sham impeachment hearing. First up on Tuesday, we have a deep state plant, Molly Montgomery. Quote:Of course the whole Shifty Schiff Sham is based on lies and misinformation from numerous Deep State plants. Lying Schiff’s Tuesday witness, Molly Montgomery, is another Deep State plant who was removed from the White House with ties to whistleblower Eric Ciaramella and George Soros. George Soros? That right there should tell people all they need to know. Quote:Deep State member Molly Montgomery was on CNN a few days ago where she claimed that morale at the State Department was at historic lows. This apparently was due to budget cuts. CNN was more than happy to promote this. Montgomery said (which she later posted on her Twitter account): Are y'all ready? I'll tell you what I'm ready for; the IG Report, so we can put an end to this circus and waste of our tax payer dollars! Source RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Mystic Wanderer - 11-18-2019 Quote:House Intelligence Committee chairman Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) “acted in concert” with Politico to leak allegedly false information from the impeachment inquiry as part of a “scheme” to advance the “inquisition” against President Donald Trump, according to an explosive defamation lawsuit filed by a senior Trump White House official on Monday. Read the story here: Source RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Ninurta - 11-19-2019 (11-18-2019, 05:29 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: First up on Tuesday, we have a deep state plant, Molly Montgomery. State NEEDS to be hollowed out! It's filled with politically polarized career bureaucrats that should find an honest job to make a living instead of freeloading on the taxpayer dime. That is probably why morale is low - they're suddenly thinking they might have to start working for a living - maybe even at an honest wage! Never mind the fact that CIA usually runs out of embassies world-wide. "The Men in the Gray Flannel Cammies" may have to drop back and punt, rethink some of their more egregious misuses of "diplomatic immunity". Heaven forbid they actually have to go out in the field occasionally and work with field agents out in Indian Country! That's some Grade A bullshit that "diplomacy is a craft that takes years, if not decades, to learn" - you are either a natural, or you're not. You can either do diplomacy, or you can't. It can take a couple of months to get up to speed on local culture, but to do that you actually have to get out in it and rub some elbows. Years or decades? My ass! Yovanovitch HAD years, and never got it right - else Ukraine would not have had such a low opinion of her. Political freeloading got in her way - not any sort of lack of time to develop "diplomatic tradecraft". Diplomacy ain't what those bureaucrats are worried about - they never worried about it before, so why start NOW? . RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Just Looking - 11-19-2019 I have been absent for a couple of months so I am sorry if this is a repeat of anything already posted. In 2017, Joe Biden’s niece, Caroline Biden, stole $100,000 through a credit card scam, aka, GRAND LARCENY, was able to cut a deal with DEMOCRAT NY prosecutors and got off scot free without jail time or probation. This was her second arrest. She was able to deal her way out of that one too. She has also been to rehab numerous times. https://nypost.com/2017/06/09/joe-bidens-niece-dodges-jail-after-100k-credit-card-scam/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/joe-bidens-son-hunter-kicked-out-navy-cocaine-n227811 Then he divorced his wife, mother of his three daughters, after a year long affair, to marry his brother’s widow. Over the course of the divorce, Hunter drained hundreds of thousands of dollars from the couple's assets by "spending extravagantly on his own interests (including drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs and gifts for women with whom he has sexual relations), while leaving the family with no funds to pay legitimate bills. It actually was worse than that, all outlined here: https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2017/03/02/kathleen-biden-files-divorce-hunter/98638454/ And this is all on top of the BILLIONS his father dubiously arranged for him from communist China and Ukraine. https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/ Biden ’s daughter with Jill, Ashley Biden Krein, has been arrested several times for drug charges. While he was Veep, she was videoed snorting cocaine but the news media decided to not to publish the video. She hid out in the Veep Delaware home for a week or so until things calmed down. https://nypost.com/2009/03/30/parties-pot-in-ashley-bidens-past/ Okay…..all God’s children got problems…but damnation, what if these things had happened to the Trump children???? The Trump kids are truly beyond reproach. Biden has a passel of miscreants. But the Republicans are not interested in subpoenaing all of the Biden children bank and credit card accounts, are they? Why haven't we heard any of this from the networks, or read it in the "great" national newspapers? RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Mystic Wanderer - 11-19-2019 Thank you @"Just Looking". Could you go back and edit your post and change the post to a different color? All that's showing up are the links. I'm using the dark background. Maybe you're using the white where it all shows up? As a reply to your post, I just have to say, if your name is Biden, you can get away with all kinds of things that the rest of us would be thrown in jail for and have the key thrown away. I hate hypocrisy!!! And it runs like a river in the DemoRat party! RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Mystic Wanderer - 11-20-2019 Here are the four witness hearings from today. RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Ninurta - 11-20-2019 Where was Molly Mongomery? I thought she was supposed to testify yesterday. Did she get a case of the sniffles or something and have to postpone? . RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - BIAD - 11-20-2019 I can only guess at the frustration of Nunes, Jordan and others on the panel at the way the Hearing is being held. Vox reported regarding Nunes' questioning of Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman’s testimony has: "...Nunes did not defend Trump’s conduct on the merits. Instead, he used his time to push the very same conspiracy theories about the Bidens that Trump tried to leverage the Ukrainian government into validating with investigations, grill both Vindman and Pence aide Jennifer Williams about whether they leaked to the media, and raise questions about why Vindman was reluctant to answer questions that could out the whistleblower..." Conspiracy theory...?!! Biden did a quid-pro-quo, he explains it in the above video that was displayed in the 'secret' Hearings before the inquiry! F*ckin' Schiff should be ashamed of himself and for the Bidens... well, they get a pass because they're deemed better than regular folks. RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Mystic Wanderer - 11-20-2019 Quote:One of the most important issues in President Trump's impeachment defense is also one of the least explored: To what degree were Trump's concerns about Ukraine valid? It's well documented that the president fixated on Ukrainian activity in the 2016 election and on the Bidens' actions in the Burisma matter. Democrats and many in the media dismiss his concerns as "conspiracy theories." But to what extent were those concerns, in fact, legitimate? Read them here: ANALYSIS: What if Trump was right about Ukraine? RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Ninurta - 11-20-2019 (11-20-2019, 12:54 PM)BIAD Wrote: I can only guess at the frustration of Nunes, Jordan and others on the panel at the way the Hearing is being held. Well, you see, there is "good" quid-pro-quo and there is "bad" quid-pro-quo in American diplomacy. The "good" is fine, ok, hunky-dory, and is used each and every day in US diplomacy with no negative connotations or repercussions. It is actually encouraged as just another tool in the diplomatic toolbox. The "bad" form is very, VERY bad, and can get the Top Dog removed from office, at a minimum. It gets lesser beings imprisoned. So the issue is how to tell the "good" from the "bad". Some would say that it's a matter of whether personal interests or national interests are being promoted. In this case, the Biden quid-pro-quo advanced NATIONAL INTERESTS (and his personal family interests), and the alleged presidential quid-pro-quo advanced (national interests) and HIS PERSONAL INTERESTS. So, it's largely a matter of where the capitalization falls - the American Socialists want to capitalize it as I have above, and their opposition wants to switch the polarity on that... but the problem for the Socialists is that they have yet to establish that any kind of quid-pro-quo even happened on the part of the president, and Biden actually bragged about HIS quid-pro-quo, so they have to find SOME way to cover that. Same goes for the phrase "conspiracy theory" - there is a "good" kind and there is a "bad" kind. According to American Socialism, the conspiracy theory that Trump was a Russian agent is the "good" kind, and the conspiracy theory that Biden had a Ukrainian prosecutor fired which protected his son's job is the "bad" kind. The Socialist problem there is that one of those conspiracy theories has been validated by the perpetrator himself and proven true, and the other has so far not even met with any supporting evidence at all. I will allow the reader to determine for himself which is which. So, in summary, it's the same exact thing in both cases, but where the emphasis and adherence to either falls is a matter of whether one wants a totalitarian government controlling each individual life to take over America or whether one wants individuals to exercise freedom and their own judgement in their personal lives. The battle lines for Civil War II in America have been drawn - they're just having a Schitt-Show to try to change how many are behind the front on either side. It's a numbers game, a propaganda war for the hearts and minds of the average American preparatory to issuing weapons. You don't want to arm the "bad guys", only the "good guys". It's a matter of perspective. One man's "freedom fighter" is another man's "terrorist" - i.e. "good" and "bad" are alleged to be in they eye of the beholder, and may depend on "situational ethics". . RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - BIAD - 11-20-2019 (11-20-2019, 09:06 PM)Ninurta Wrote: Well, you see, there is "good" quid-pro-quo and there is "bad" quid-pro-quo in American diplomacy... From the current viewing of this mockery, such quid-pro-quo is second in the queue behind word-trickery to put flesh on the bones of this schiff-show!! "In a hypothetical, would you agree with me in something that you stated earlier would be the opposite?" Chairman, I yield my time. RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Ninurta - 11-20-2019 (11-20-2019, 09:20 PM)BIAD Wrote: I'm starting to wonder if you are watching these hearings real-time over there in the UK - that particular and exact exchange just took place a few minutes ago! RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - BIAD - 11-20-2019 (11-20-2019, 09:30 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I'm starting to wonder if you are watching these hearings real-time over there in the UK - that particular and exact exchange just took place a few minutes ago! It's just a benefit of being an MI6 agent (Shit!) Yep, I'm watchin' it and if I'd been Sondland, I'd have told them that I'm going for a beer and when they've finished in their kiddie sandbox, give me a call. Aww crap, now Shifty's doing his theatre. RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Mystic Wanderer - 11-21-2019 Here are the hearings from today, over 7 hours for you to destroy your brain cells watching. Have at it! RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Wallfire - 11-21-2019 The Left is moving all over the world to take power using islam, climate change, LGBT, and PC. They have infiltrated many organisations like the Green party's. At least here in Europe we are starting to fight back, but im not so sure that the people of the USA understand what is going on and that they need to start to fight back. Like in Europe the left will keep pushing until they win or a war is started RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - BIAD - 11-21-2019 Here's a thing that amusingly has connections with our time-travel thread and the ongoing Hearings involving the Bidens. Via a link kindly provided by The Mystic Wanderer in the 'Shout Box', I clicked onto a BBC link that was in the original post. We tend not to ferret about in old articles, but the BBC piece titled: 'Vice President Joe Biden's son joins Ukraine gas company' from May 2014, paints a different picture from what we see today. Check out this chunk of the article. Quote:'... All this could be explained simply as a foreign energy company looking to increase its visibility in the USBBC: Who'd have thought that Hunter's dad would later go on and threaten the Ukraine Government to fire a lawyer who was investigating corruption in the same company his son worked for -by holding back financial aid? Time... it doesn't remind you of the past in the present! RE: Impeachment Hearings Begin... - Mystic Wanderer - 11-21-2019 Here are the only videos I could find on the hearing today. I think this is the last of them. Whew! Thank goodness! |