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RE: The UK's Brexit Referendum. - Wallfire - 02-02-2020 I use to be a great believer in the EU, and for about 10 years worked in different EU projects here and in other countries. As time went on I saw more and more lets say" bending of the rules". I believe that "bending of the rules" always starts at the top and flows down, so if it could be seen at the low level I worked at the top must be BAD. The last straw (made of paper not plastic ( see I can be PC)) was when the Fuhrer open the borders of Germany and the EU followed suit flooding Europe and trying to destroy the cultures of Europe. Yes the EU has stopped a war in Europe but it has supported invasion without war and stopped the countries from protecting themselves. The EU is evil, and now there will be war in Europe, not between countries but to drive the invader out. To stop evil good must fight back, but good must become move evil than the evil it fights if good is to win. Then good must fight its way back from evil to become good again. I know good will fight and win what im not sure of is will good fight its way back to good. If not then good becomes what was once evil, and evil becomes even more evil to fight good, and so it goes on and on. Hope people understand . RE: The UK's Brexit Referendum. - Mystic Wanderer - 02-02-2020 (02-02-2020, 01:24 PM)Wallfire Wrote: I use to be a great believer in the EU, and for about 10 years worked in different EU projects here and in other countries. As time went on I saw more and more lets say" bending of the rules". You are correct that good must fight evil to win. To be truly good, it has to come from the heart of the person; it has to be a part of their character. It's not that hard to tell if their goal is for the good for mankind. It's those people who have REAL goodness inside and hope for a better world that will win in the end, because if they are TRULY good, they won't allow evil to sway who they are inside. RE: The UK's Brexit Referendum. - BIAD - 02-04-2020 Here's The Britisher, a sensible look at the recent news involving leaving the EU and other areas of possible interest. It's worth a listen INMHO. RE: The UK's Brexit Referendum. - BIAD - 02-04-2020 Tut-tut, naughty-naughty, Nicola! Quote:Nicola Sturgeon humiliated: SNP’s embarrassing Brexit stunt exposed by baffled EU.The Express: RE: The UK's Brexit Referendum. - Wallfire - 02-05-2020 (02-04-2020, 02:45 PM)BIAD Wrote: Here's The Britisher, a sensible look at the recent news involving leaving the EU and other areasThanks BIAD, that video was (as the brits say ) brilliant RE: The UK's Brexit Referendum. - guohua - 02-05-2020 Not to change the subject about Brexit, but I was wanting to here @"gordi" thoughts and how Scotland is being affected by this. RE: The UK's Brexit Referendum. - gordi - 02-05-2020 (02-05-2020, 06:17 PM)guohua Wrote: Not to change the subject about Brexit, but I was wanting to here @"gordi" thoughts and how Scotland is being affected by this. I've actually started to post a reply (previously) about 4 times so far... I'm quite ambivalent about the EU, but I get the distinct impression that Scotland as a whole is very much pro-EU, or at least pro-Europe. (62% of Scots voted to Remain in the EU at the EU referendum but as usual they are being out-voted and ignored by England/Westminster). Scotland's views on... pretty much everything, couldn't be further from what Boris Johnson and the Tory UK Government are creating for the UK. It is horrible to see, and there is a growing resentment that Scotland is being dragged in a direction that the majority of Scots don't want to go. BoJo / Westminster and their media lapdogs continually lampoon Scotland, Scottish MP's and Scots in general. Implying that we are a drain on the UK, that WM "spends" more on Scotland than other "regions" in the UK, that we are benefit junkies subsidised by the south. If that were truly the case, then why are they so desperate to keep Scotland as part of the UK? Why deny the Scottish Govt the right to hold another Independence Referendum? (Since there has been significant material change in our circumstances with regards to being dragged out of the EU despite being promised that the ONLY way to remain in the EU was to remain in the UK (in 2014)). Why try to introduce legislation to make it harder for UK nations to hold referenda in the future? Why argue that the UK NEEDS independence from the decision makers in Brussels, while at the same time refuting the same argument from Scotland regarding Westminster? The truth is that Scotland is NOT subsidised by England. The UK Govt. doesn't "spend" money in Scotland. It takes massive amounts of Tax revenues (more per head than from ANY other region in the UK) from Scotland, then THEY decide what portion of those revenues THEY will return to Scotland (via The Barnett Formula and other measures). The amount returned to Scotland ALWAYS being VERY MUCH less than the Revenues TAKEN from Scotland. But that's not the full picture. The financial health of a nation is often reflected in its GDP (Gross Domestic Product) which is a measure of how much money is generated per head of population. One main constituent of GDP being Exports. The UK Govt takes its figures for the value of exported goods directly from our UK port authorities. Each and Every Port which handles goods for export abroad keeps an accurate record of those goods and their associated value to the economy and those figures are what is used to generate the official UK Govt GDP figures for each "region". BUT... What they DON'T SAY is that the figures are tallied up, NOT by country of origin, but by country of EXPORT (in other words where the Port is located). Since many English ports are geographically nearer to Europe (our biggest export markets) then it makes sense to transport most Scottish goods by Road/Rail to English ports prior to Shipment abroad. (It cuts down on shipping costs) This has the effect of massively BOOSTING ENGLISH Export figures (with Scottish goods) and dramatically REDUCING SCOTTISH Export figures (for Scottish goods which leave the UK from English ports). This reinforces the "Scotland is Poor, subsidised by the Rich South" narrative, and helps to keep Scotland in check. As a Scot, I am bitterly opposed to BoJo, The Tories and to being governed by Westminster. This is supposed to be a UNION of EQUALS. It is not. I am sick of being told to shut up and do what we're told by a Government that we NEVER voted for. I am sick of being lied to and denigrated on a daily basis. I am sick of my country being BLED DRY by these despicable parasites. (All Whisky Tax revenues and Oil & Gas Tax revenues go straight to WM!) It is my wish, my desire and my dream that my country will soon be free of this shambolic Union, it'll be like finally getting rid of an abusive partner from a relationship. Then, and only then, will we have the chance TO DECIDE FOR OURSELVES what is in the best interests of our own country. Whether to rejoin the EU. Whether to join a Nordic Trade Alliance. or Whatever. On a related note, it is my firm belief that both the Scottish Independence referendum (2014) and the EU (Brexit) referendum were rigged. I have seen a stack of evidence regarding Postal Voting anomalies, Illegal pre-vote ad campaigns on social media platforms etc So, how is this all affecting Scotland? If we don't get OUT of the UK... and SOON.... We're pretty much fucked. G PS - The post about Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP's humiliating/embarrassing lighting up Brussels thing is a pile of poo, reported in a Tory rag. The SNP NEVER EVER Stated that the lights were done BY the EU or by Brussels. It was done to let the EU know that the Scottish Govt still "loves" them. The actual statement (from NS) about "Brussels leaving a light on" for Scotland was in a Tweet which showed an image of the European Commission building in Brussels, with a projection showing SCOTLAND (heart) EUROPE AND a single office light on!! Her actual tweet was referencing that single light and said in full: "The EU Commission building in Brussels tonight (and if you look carefully you’ll see that they do appear to have left a light on for us!) " i.e. NS was JOKING about the single office light left on, not making any claims about Brussels or the EU projecting anything!!!! One single sample source out of very many RE: The UK's Brexit Referendum. - guohua - 02-06-2020 @"gordi" WOW, well said and very understandable. Sorry for the Misery you and your country men and women have to endure. Hopefully One Day Soon there is an Independent Scotland and I fully Support this. My husband told me Scotland was still being Used and Treated Like Second Class Citizens. RE: The UK's Brexit Referendum. - BIAD - 02-06-2020 (02-05-2020, 11:41 PM)gordi Wrote: BoJo / Westminster and their media lapdogs continually lampoon Scotland, Scottish MP's and Scots in general... You're not wrong, here's the result of a another dirty-tricks campaign. Quote:Derek Mackay: Scottish finance secretary quits over messages to boy. Quote:'..The 42-year-old was also a major figure in the SNP, serving as business convener for seven years, a roleBBC: I can understand your anger, G. Remember, I'm from the N-East of England and after the recent election, the Government assured the 'northern' voters that investment would be coming our way. Manchester -you may be aware, is not northern if you ask anyone from the Lake District, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Carlisle and certainly not any town or city past Hadrian's Wall. The sh*t-show that the media has encouraged with word-play is part of the problem with divisional 'weasel-words' only being one way. We hear of the EU exporting x-amount of goods to the UK, but the same smear-merchant-media never mention the actual products came from Austria, France, Cyprus, Germany, Bulgaria, Estonia, Croatia, Hungary and the rest. And when there's an issue within the EU -like the UK's exit for example, the media offers images of Merkel and Macron scurrying about in smiling conversation and yet the leaders of the other 25 countries are rarely displayed. Realities are difficult to find. Keep the faith, mate. |