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RE: Something is cooking... - BIAD - 03-29-2018 (03-29-2018, 01:31 PM)Wallfire Wrote: Lets see the wast of time May now looks like the iron lady, she will now get a good deal with the EU by blaming the Russians. The EU then get all the old USSR countries running to join the EU ( Russia bad EU good) and the EU comes many steps closer to ruling Europe. RE: Something is cooking... - BIAD - 04-03-2018 Quote:Porton Down experts unable to identify 'precise source' of novichok that poisoned spy. Well we already know it's from Russia, Theresa May said -so ask them. Obviously their experts are better than British scientists, so ring 'em up... ask them what it's called and why it has 'ski' attached to the end of it. By the way, you could also ask all the other news outlets what they think, as they all reported this at the same time. At the very least, ask Trump... they painted him as a Kremlin ally. Quote:'...Gary Aitkenhead, chief executive of the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL) at Considering Porton Down has just received a £48 million boost to their coffers, I'm disappointed the boffins couldn't find out where it's from. Gee, it's like a movie script. Quote:'...He said establishing its origin required "other inputs", some of them intelligence-based, that the Then at least we know it wasn't knocked-up in a kitchen in London. Quote:'...He said there was no known antidote to novichok, and that none was administered to either of the Skripals. Which doesn't answer the original question of whether Porton Down had any of this Russian-only stuff. Quote:'...It comes as the chemical weapons watchdog said it would hold a special meeting on Wednesday into the The findings of comparison will be lost in the media's stampede because accusations are better than hard facts. Quote:'...Former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were poisoned four weeks ago in Salisbury. (A Spot of Sarcasm Below) Why on earth would they want to see them? There's no known antidote for 'novichok' and even though the Skripals were lucky enough to-date to live through the lethal poison, why would Russian Diplomats wish to talk to them? Unless it's to prove it wasn't a Soviet nerve agent that... whoops, fell off the narrative there. Quote:'...Yulia's condition improved significantly last week and she is now said to be conscious and talking. £48 million...? Nah, who would think on that level? Quote:'...In comments reported by Russian news agencies, Mr Grushko said the attempted murders could have beenSKY News (Unless Disney Buys It): Honestly, I think that the retired Russian lieutenant general makes a good point and whether Russia poisoned what they though was a decade-ago traitor or not, this asinine accusation-battle is dangerous. In my opinion, the British Government should have kept this out of the public eye until the facts were in. RE: Something is cooking... - Wallfire - 04-03-2018 I posted this on another thread but I think its important enough to repost it here First Recorded Successful Novichok Synthesis was in 2016 – By Iran, in Cooperation with the OPCW 280 17 Mar, 2018 in Uncategorized by craig The line that novichoks can only be produced by Russia is now proven to be a complete lie. As I previously proved by referencing their publications, in 2013 the OPCW scientific advisory committee note the evidence was sparse that novichoks had ever been successfully produced, and that was still the line being published by Porton Down in 2016. You can find the hard evidence of all that here. I have now been sent the vital information that in late 2016, Iranian scientists set out to study whether novichoks really could be produced from commercially available ingredients. Iran succeeded in synthesising a number of novichoks. Iran did this in full cooperation with the OPCW and immediately reported the results to the OPCW so they could be added to the chemical weapons database. This makes complete nonsense of the Theresa May’s “of a type developed by Russia” line, used to parliament and the UN Security Council. This explains why Porton Down have refused to cave in to governmental pressure to say the nerve agent was Russian. If Iran can make a novichok, so can a significant number of states. While Iran acted absolutely responsibly in cooperating with the OPCW, there are a handful of rogue states operating outwith the rule of international law, like Israel and North Korea, which refuse to ratify the Chemical Weapons Convention, join the OPCW or destroy their chemical weapons stocks. Russia has cooperated in the OPCW destruction of all its chemical weapons stocks, completed last year, which included regular OPCW inspection of all the sites alleged to have been in the original “novichok” programme. Why nobody is even looking at the rogue states outwith the OPCW is a genuine puzzle. Extraordinarily, only yesterday the Guardian was still carrying an article which claimed “only the Russian state” could make a novichok. Despite the lying propaganda regurgitated by virtually every corporate and state “journalist”, in truth is it is now proven beyond dispute that “of a type developed by Russia” has zero evidential value and is a politician’s weasel phrase designed deliberately to mislead the public. The public should ask why. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/first-recorded-successful-novichok-synthesis-was-in-2017-by-iran-in-cooperation-with-the-opcw/ RE: Something is cooking... - BIAD - 04-03-2018 (04-03-2018, 05:49 PM)Wallfire Wrote: I posted this on another thread but I think its important enough to repost it here...It is and I think it's near the mark. The problem is if it is and what will the UK Government do about it. Apart from whimpering 'sorry' to Putin! RE: Something is cooking... - Wallfire - 04-03-2018 (04-03-2018, 08:01 PM)BIAD Wrote:(04-03-2018, 05:49 PM)Wallfire Wrote: I posted this on another thread but I think its important enough to repost it here...It is and I think it's near the mark. The problem is if it is and what will the UK Government I believe its all part of the plain to drive country's into the EU. "Join us or the big bad ruski will get you" May gets a good deal from the EU ( but GB never leaves it, only on paper) As I said before join the dots, there is much much more going on. RE: Something is cooking... - BIAD - 04-04-2018 From a link kindly provided by Mystic. Quote:SALISBURY NERVE AGENT ATTACK REVEALS $70 MILLION PENTAGON PROGRAM AT PORTON DOWN.Read More Here:SOURCE: RE: Something is cooking... - Wallfire - 04-04-2018 This has become a case of May saying " dont confuse me with facts" RE: Something is cooking... - BIAD - 04-05-2018 The possible ending of Duckforcover's thread isn't a happy one. Quote:Missing CDC employee's body found in river weeks after disappearance, police say.SOURCE: RE: Something is cooking... - Mystic Wanderer - 04-05-2018 Well, looks like they found him. Quote:The body of 35-year-old Timothy Cunningham was found by fishermen in an Atlanta river on Tuesday evening, bringing the long search for the missing CDC doctor to a tragic end. You all can believe what you want, but this is more than someone drowning in the river... MUCH more! Read more and see a video here: Body of missing CDC doctor Timothy Cunningham found in Atlanta river RE: Something is cooking... - BIAD - 04-05-2018 (04-05-2018, 10:01 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: ...You all can believe what you want, but this is more than someone drowning in the river... MUCH more! Sorry to make light of such a tragic situation, but I just... just -mind you, beat you to it! RE: Something is cooking... - BIAD - 07-05-2018 I left this one alone to run for a few days and now Porton Down has announced that two people in a nearby town to the Skripal incident have been infected by the infamous Novichok nerve agent. Quote:Amesbury poisoning: Couple exposed to Novichok nerve agent. Here's another example of the media running away with a narrative. Amesbury is ten miles away from the town where the Skripals were effected and there's no evidence at this point that this new couple visited Salisbury after that incident. Quote:'...The news that Novichok was to blame was announced following analysis at the defence research facility at Porton Yet, set in a black text blocks beneath images of this BBC web page, it states: '...The Amesbury branch of Boots was closed on Wednesday morning as a "precautionary measure"...' '...Police have cordoned off a number of areas including Muggleton Road in Amesbury...' '...The couple, believed to be Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley were found unconscious on Saturday in Amesbury...' Not Salisbury. Quote:'...On Thursday morning, the focus of police activity was in Muggleton Road where the couple first fell ill, BBC See...? Many of the comments are from BBC correspondents and ex-security 'experts' who offer exciting punditry They imply a chain of suggestions and then state an opposite official statement further on. Quote:'...Local residents have been warned to expect to see an increased police presence -including officers wearingBBC: What I find odd is that at the weekend -and before this incident was reported, three people died in my hometown in the North-East of England from what the Police thought was a 'bad batch' of contaminated heroin. Two were found dead on Saturday morning and the third died on Sunday evening. It was reported in my local newspaper and never hit the mainstream media. Yet the initial Amesbury case was first offered as an overdose of 'bad drugs' and reported by the BBC and Sky News. The two major news outlets in the UK. '..."It was initially believed that the two patients fell ill after using possibly heroin or crack cocaine from a contaminated batch of drugs," Wiltshire Police said....' Why would you think that unless you had information that this couple used these types of drugs? Paraphernalia and heroin found in the couple's house would be a fair indication -as well as previous convictions, but now it seems to have morphed into another Novichok encounter... and the connection is being pushed by the media. ........................................................... Edit: After I had posted the above, this was on the Sky News website: Quote:LIVE: Amesbury victims ‘not linked to Skripals’ - minister.SKY News Updates: So that's the MSM narrative disposed of, but I'm sure they'll arc it back to 'the Ruskies did it' by the late-afternoon! RE: Something is cooking... - Wallfire - 07-05-2018 This is getting very interesting, the whole thing just has a very strange feel about it. RE: Something is cooking... - BIAD - 07-05-2018 (07-05-2018, 11:11 AM)Wallfire Wrote: This is getting very interesting, the whole thing just has a very strange feel about it. I agree. See...? An update from the linked Sky website. Quote:'LIVE: Public in Salisbury 'should avoid picking up unknown objects'...' The recent incident occurred ten miles away and now the media are focusing back at the Skripal alleged attempted assassination in their title. Yet there's nothing in their conjecture that's informative except the official warnings that derived from the Salisbury event. (By the way, The Times reduces the distance between Amesbury and Salisbury to seven miles and The Telegraph newspaper states: 'Couple critically ill in Salisbury following contact with same nerve agent used on spy...') RE: Something is cooking... - Wallfire - 07-05-2018 Quote:Amesbury poisoning: Couple exposed to Novichok nerve agent.Am i missing something, I have a few questions about this 1/ Was the house were the people were found there own house, how many other people were there 2/ Did the sick couple phone for help 3/ If they were found by someone else. who and did they suffer from the same "sickness" 4/ Are the people known drug takers Quote:Chemical weapons expert Richard Guthrie said it was possible that the Novichok which poisoned the SkripalsWho else but a drug user or child would pick up a used syringe and push the contents out. Also worth reading this Quote:OnsetThe whole story is just too strange, but strange things do happen RE: Something is cooking... - BIAD - 07-05-2018 (07-05-2018, 11:46 AM)Wallfire Wrote: Am i missing something, I have a few questions about this Well let's take a peek into the fluid world of Journalism! 1/ Was the house where the people were found their own house, how many other people were there? It was initially implied that this couple live in a homeless shelter. Yet, The MailOnline states that Ms. Sturgess returned to her flat and spent the Friday evening in her flat in Salisbury, possibly with Mr. Rowley. '...The John Baker House homeless shelter at at 16 Rollestone Street in Salisbury where Ms Sturgess lives has been cordoned off by police after the poisoning...' '....Police locked down the building along with a public rubbish bin in the corner of Rollestone Street just yards away that was known to be frequented by the couple... Ms. Sturgess then travels to her boyfriend's abode at a newly-built Housing Association facility in Muggleton Road, Amesbury. This was on Saturday. At 11 o'clock on Saturday morning, the couple visit a Baptist Church. Ms. Sturgess feels unwell and returns to Mr. Rowley's home. (In reality, the Mail doesn't use Mr. Rowley's name and just use the expression 'boyfriend') Not long after arriving at the Muggleton Road house (Amesbury), an ambulance is called by an unsaid person. Saturday Afternoon, Mr. Rowley visits a 'Boots' Chemists shop before returning home to pick up clothing for Ms. Sturgess in hospital. The Chemists is in Amesbury. Saturday evening, Paramedics are called to the Muggleton Road home and Mr. Rowley is take to hospital in a serious condition. 2/ Did the sick couple phone for help? Unknown, but it's reported: '..Sam Hobson, who called an ambulance for his friend, described the sudden decline of Mr Rowley. '...He started sweating. His T-shirt was soaking wet. He got up and started rocking against the wall,' Mr Hobson recalled. 'His eyes were wide open and red, his pupils were like pinpricks. He began gabbling incoherently and I could tell he was hallucinating. He was making weird noises and acting like a zombie. I phoned an ambulance. 'At first they thought it was drugs but they know now it isn't.'...' 3/ If they were found by someone else. who and did they suffer from the same "sickness"? Presumably this dishevelled man found Mr. Rowley and we're left with the assumption that Rowley called for an ambulance earlier for Ms. Sturgess. To date, Hobson seems fine. 4/ Are the people known drug takers? '...On Monday, knowing the couple were drug users, police issue an urgent warning to drug users with a detective saying the couple may have taken a contaminated batch of drugs...' '...Mr Rowley is a registered heroin addict...' ............................. So from the Friday's relaxing in the Salisbury park and possibly finding a discarded syringe of Novichok, up to Saturday afternoon's attack of Ms. Sturgess and the later attack of Mr. Rowley, the deadly poison took it's time. ...And remember, the MSM assured us that Novichok has to be mixed to be effective. Two syringes?!! RE: Something is cooking... - Wallfire - 07-05-2018 Thanks for the Info BIAD, if what im reading here is true then this nerve gas does not seem to work very well. RE: Something is cooking... - BIAD - 07-05-2018 (07-05-2018, 01:39 PM)Wallfire Wrote: Thanks for the Info BIAD, if what im reading here is true then this nerve gas does not seem to work very well. I read some of the link you kindly provided and I seriously doubt whether the Skripals and these latest two were infected with Novichok. Just to add more intrigue to the confusing rhetoric of the mainstream media... Quote:'...About 100 detectives from the counter-terrorism policing network are investigating alongsideThe Guardian: RE: Something is cooking... - Wallfire - 07-05-2018 Found this photo in the DM read It seem they take this Novichok very seriously as you can see how they secured a bin they think might be infected. Also note the advanced protection the police woman is wearing as well as the CBW scientist as they would never let people just walk past RE: Something is cooking... - BIAD - 07-05-2018 The caption below the image is laughable... more funny than the image of a passer-by wandering near the possible infected area AND the unprotected Police Officer. '...Anything police believe the couple may have used is now sealed including this rubbish bin in Salt Lane, Salisbury. There are claims she came into contact with Novichok from a discarded cigarette she would routinely pick up and smoke...' So the person who dropped the cigarette is infected too?!!! .................................... And to add more suspense... '...The father of Dawn’s children, Andy Hope, also has clearance for Boscombe Down, where he works as an aircraft engineer. One of Dawn’s two older sons lives with him. The relationship between Dawn and her parents has been strained for many years. Her father, Stephen, has disowned her over her drinking and has not seen her for more than a decade, family members said. He has not visited her in the Radner Ward intensive care unit of Salisbury hospital...' From the Wallfire's link. RE: Something is cooking... - Mystic Wanderer - 07-05-2018 I read in one of your posts that they had visited a chemist during their daily travels. Maybe he had something there they were exposed to and it was a secret experiment. Those involved in investigating were told to use a cover story. Using the gas agent would be a good cover and put the public in fear at the same time... right where they want them. Just a thought. |